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Post by arthuradams2002 on Oct 11, 2009 22:59:36 GMT -5
Check this out! This is first time I have seen something like that from a post-match interview. Most of the time after a babyface loses, he will stay strong a cut a promo with confidence and talk about how he overcome adversity and regain the title. But, we get something totally bizarre from Bob Backlund after losing to the Iron Sheik. Could you see someone today like John Cena or Batista crying after loosing the title ? It would totally kill a babyface's credibility. Backland's crying makes him look like a P(you know what). The rest is history of what happened after this match. Backlund left the WWF, and Hogan became the top babyface in the company for the next eight years.
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Post by britishbulldog on Oct 11, 2009 23:04:57 GMT -5
Actually like this set up. It makes the Title look like it meant evrything to Bob. Which it should.
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Post by Lair of the Shadow MaDaBa on Oct 11, 2009 23:07:01 GMT -5
I completely disagree--if more champions lost their titles and sobbed about it after, it only shows how much the belt meant to him and how much it means in general.
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Post by britishbulldog on Oct 11, 2009 23:08:20 GMT -5
Plus if you held the title as long as he did. It would absolutley crush you to loose it. Titles may not matter that much but being considered the top guy sure does.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Oct 11, 2009 23:14:22 GMT -5
He should have come out, did a salute, said poopy jokes, and waves his hands.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Oct 11, 2009 23:19:08 GMT -5
He should have come out, did a salute, said poopy jokes, and waves his hands. LOL
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Oct 11, 2009 23:58:51 GMT -5
If the world title (er, titles) was still treated like a big enough deal that a wrestler would conceivably break down in tears after losing it, we wouldn't be in a situation where the belt(s) get hot potatoed around every month and a challenger has to beat up the champ's wife and/or get chased around with a sledgehammer in order for a feud involving the belt to feel significant.
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Post by arthuradams2002 on Oct 12, 2009 0:56:45 GMT -5
If the world title (er, titles) was still treated like a big enough deal that a wrestler would conceivably break down in tears after losing it, we wouldn't be in a situation where the belt(s) get hot potatoed around every month and a challenger has to beat up the champ's wife and/or get chased around with a sledgehammer in order for a feud involving the belt to feel significant. Let me comment on what you said on now how the title gets potatoed each month. With what we have seen with Cena & Orton constantly swapping the belt, how can we as "wrestling fans" show any interest in who has the belt anymore at the end of a Pay Per View ?
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Post by lildude8218 on Oct 12, 2009 1:00:33 GMT -5
I completely disagree--if more champions lost their titles and sobbed about it after, it only shows how much the belt meant to him and how much it means in general. Except when the video is shown of Hogan complaining about being screwed out of the belt when he rightfully should be pissed, he's called a baby.....
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Post by Lair of the Shadow MaDaBa on Oct 12, 2009 1:11:02 GMT -5
I completely disagree--if more champions lost their titles and sobbed about it after, it only shows how much the belt meant to him and how much it means in general. Except when the video is shown of Hogan complaining about being screwed out of the belt when he rightfully should be pissed, he's called a baby..... ...You...you do know Hogan, right?
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Oct 12, 2009 1:22:57 GMT -5
If the world title (er, titles) was still treated like a big enough deal that a wrestler would conceivably break down in tears after losing it, we wouldn't be in a situation where the belt(s) get hot potatoed around every month and a challenger has to beat up the champ's wife and/or get chased around with a sledgehammer in order for a feud involving the belt to feel significant. Let me comment on what you said on now how the title gets potatoed each month. With what we have seen with Cena & Orton constantly swapping the belt, how can we as "wrestling fans" show any interest in who has the belt anymore at the end of a Pay Per View ? I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't particularly care who winds up winning the belts anymore, particularly when the exact same wrestlers will be in the next month's main event again regardless of who wins or loses. I imagine this has something to do with why WWE's buyrates are dwindling. Whether this sort of booking is the cause of, or a symptom of, the gradual deemphasis on the belts' kayfabe importance is up in the air. It's probably a little of both. Regardless, you're right in that, in the current climate, having someone like Cena or Batista break down crying after losing the title would seem absurd. I, for one, don't consider this to be a good thing.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Oct 12, 2009 6:11:07 GMT -5
Why won't WWE acknowleadge Anoki's win and Valintine be given the title by mistake Backland didn't reign for six years
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Post by Youngie on Oct 12, 2009 6:55:59 GMT -5
That clip is fantastic!
An interesting side-story to this is that I heard that the finish to the Backlund/Sheik match was a shoot and Backlund did not know that Arnold Skaaland was going to throw in the towel. This would explain why Backlund was so upset (if he actually was double-crossed).
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Post by neal on Oct 12, 2009 9:20:14 GMT -5
That clip is fantastic! An interesting side-story to this is that I heard that the finish to the Backlund/Sheik match was a shoot and Backlund did not know that Arnold Skaaland was going to throw in the towel. This would explain why Backlund was so upset (if he actually was double-crossed). That rumor is BS. Backlund knew everything leading up to Sheiky winning the belt and dropping it to Hogan, and approved the new direction the WWF was going into. His only gripe was Vince's idea of Bob turning heel, and that was only because Bob has a six year old daughter that he wanted to protect from being taunted at school. Otherwise Bob would have probably stuck around for the whole Rock & Wrestling era.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Oct 12, 2009 9:29:48 GMT -5
I completely disagree--if more champions lost their titles and sobbed about it after, it only shows how much the belt meant to him and how much it means in general. Except when the video is shown of Hogan complaining about being screwed out of the belt when he rightfully should be pissed, he's called a baby..... Perhaps, but man did Hogan cheat more than any face I ever seen. He sometimes cheated more than the heels!
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Post by neal on Oct 12, 2009 9:59:12 GMT -5
Except when the video is shown of Hogan complaining about being screwed out of the belt when he rightfully should be pissed, he's called a baby..... Perhaps, but man did Hogan cheat more than any face I ever seen. He sometimes cheated more than the heels! Hogan a cheater? Naw, that fist helmet was regulation.
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Post by chunkylover53 on Oct 12, 2009 19:05:20 GMT -5
That clip is fantastic! An interesting side-story to this is that I heard that the finish to the Backlund/Sheik match was a shoot and Backlund did not know that Arnold Skaaland was going to throw in the towel. This would explain why Backlund was so upset (if he actually was double-crossed). That rumor is BS. Backlund knew everything leading up to Sheiky winning the belt and dropping it to Hogan, and approved the new direction the WWF was going into. His only gripe was Vince's idea of Bob turning heel, and that was only because Bob has a six year old daughter that he wanted to protect from being taunted at school. Otherwise Bob would have probably stuck around for the whole Rock & Wrestling era. I read somewhere he wanted to make Bob Backlund dress up like a punk rock character ala Adrian Street. Of course his daughter would be taunted at school if that happened.
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Oct 12, 2009 21:37:57 GMT -5
Yeah, I think losing a children's card game should cause an existential crisis.
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Post by nickcave on Oct 12, 2009 21:45:20 GMT -5
If the world title (er, titles) was still treated like a big enough deal that a wrestler would conceivably break down in tears after losing it, we wouldn't be in a situation where the belt(s) get hot potatoed around every month and a challenger has to beat up the champ's wife and/or get chased around with a sledgehammer in order for a feud involving the belt to feel significant. Let me comment on what you said on now how the title gets potatoed each month. With what we have seen with Cena & Orton constantly swapping the belt, how can we as "wrestling fans" show any interest in who has the belt anymore at the end of a Pay Per View ? Ok but when Cena held the belt for a year his reign was too long... their is no middle ground it seems.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Oct 12, 2009 23:29:52 GMT -5
Let me comment on what you said on now how the title gets potatoed each month. With what we have seen with Cena & Orton constantly swapping the belt, how can we as "wrestling fans" show any interest in who has the belt anymore at the end of a Pay Per View ? Ok but when Cena held the belt for a year his reign was too long... their is no middle ground it seems. These days yes. There's too much exposure to not create dramatic, interesting storylines without changing the belt fairly constantly. I do think a year to two year reigns could work, but it would require less champion exposure. Making the World Champion an elite wrestler who doesn't have to wrestle on anything but Pay Per Views because he earns the right as champ. It also just requires other storylines to carry the product when you go through down periods in title reigns. The parts where the champ just wins 3 Title matches because he's favored to win. Where another storyline that's hot takes over while you build a championship related storyline. However, poor booking doesn't allow for this... and you have to hot shot the title around.
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