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Post by nealo on Jul 19, 2009 10:17:17 GMT -5
I was thinking what was the golden age of WWF/E? I was thinkit was probably 1983-1993, making 94-98 the silver age, 99-2002 The Bronze age and 2003-present the iron age. And inturn 1979-1982 the Platiunum age. anyone have any other ideas of when the 'golden age' was?
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Post by Youngie on Jul 19, 2009 10:27:06 GMT -5
I'd agree but I'd have 99-2002 as the silver age & 94-98 as the bronze age.
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Post by nealo on Jul 19, 2009 10:41:25 GMT -5
it doesnt work liek that, Golden age is always followed by the silver
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Post by AriadosMan on Jul 19, 2009 11:44:32 GMT -5
I think our current age is the Age of Rust  |
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Post by Youngie on Jul 19, 2009 12:41:59 GMT -5
it doesnt work liek that, Golden age is always followed by the silver Yes so 99-2002=silver age |
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Post by nealo on Jul 20, 2009 16:59:32 GMT -5
it doesnt work liek that, Golden age is always followed by the silver Yes so 99-2002=silver age So that would mean 94-98 is Golden age |
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Post by Youngie on Jul 20, 2009 17:01:15 GMT -5
Yes so 99-2002=silver age So that would mean 94-98 is Golden age It's OK. I'll agree with you since it's easier  |
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Post by nealo on Jul 20, 2009 17:03:08 GMT -5
well everyone has their own iopinions but i think WWF/E was at its peak from 1983-1993
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Post by Youngie on Jul 20, 2009 17:09:27 GMT -5
well everyone has their own iopinions but i think WWF/E was at its peak from 1983-1993 Yes I agree with you on that. |
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Post by nealo on Jul 22, 2009 18:21:47 GMT -5
the time of Hogan,Andre, Savage, Piper, Flair, Dibiase, Hart Foundation and HBK debut
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Post by Bobby Womack on Jul 22, 2009 21:29:01 GMT -5
when the measuring stick is done by quality, the timeline has no relevance, silver does not have to follow gold and bronze does not have to follow, that would be like an olympic pole vaulter getting gold, and then the next two people who took their turn after him getting silver and bronze automatically even though they got terrible scores
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2009 1:12:20 GMT -5
For those confused, I believe he is basing this on the way comic books are viewed. Golden Age for the 30's-40's, Silver Age for the 50's-60's, Bronze Age for the 70's-80's, etc.
It's not actually based on the quality of those years I don't think.
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Post by JerryvonKramer on Jul 28, 2009 19:14:36 GMT -5
I see it as follows:
1985-93: Golden Age
1994-7: Dark Ages
1998-2003: Silver Age
2003-present: Dark Ages
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Jul 28, 2009 19:29:24 GMT -5
First Golden Age: 1985-90
Second Golden Age: 1998-2001
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Post by JerryvonKramer on Jul 28, 2009 19:44:24 GMT -5
First Golden Age: 1985-90 Second Golden Age: 1998-2001 Agreed ... however 1991 and 1992 were such great years for WWF that I always artificially extend it till at least Summerslam 1993. That's the cut off date: after then, Hogan's gone, DiBiase retires, Savage is all but retired, almost all of the old "classic" roster has either retired, left for WCW, or faded away. Tag division thins out to bare bones, gimmicks become increasingly and unbearably cartoony, Luger's push etc. etc. etc. The furthest we can stretch it is Wrestlemania X (though I prefer to see it as an anomaly amid shit). Once Heenan and Mean Gene leave, that is truly it. I think 1995 is probably the absolute bottom of the barrel. |
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Post by blef on Jul 29, 2009 16:57:29 GMT -5
Using the model of comic book history's use of ages......
1984-1993 - Golden Age
1994-1996 - Atomic Age
1997-2001 - Silver Age
2002-present - Bronze Age
The Golden Age was when the genre became greatly popular and took off, changing the model that existed before (which was just....there) and redefined it for a radically different, and very successful, future.
The Atomic Age is when the sudden surge of the Golden Age slows down dramatically. And, in some places, dies off completely. Nothing great of note happens, more failure than success. The business is able to live on, but it's the quick rush of success is slowed to a crawl and possible disaster for all looms.
The Silver Age was when the stuff of the Golden Age was transformed and reinvisioned for a new audience, and winds up growing out of the disasterous Atomic Age to be bigger than everything that had preceded it. Like comics, wrestling's Silver Age started slow, with small steps at first to see if it would work, and slowly the elements began to build up and change everything, and suddenly it caught on like a wildfire and thus a new model, with even more success, was born.
The Bronze Age, which I think wrestling is still in, is the holdover of the Silver Age. The business is still feeding off the success of the Silver Age. Things are still generally successful. Good ideas come, bad ideas come. There are high points and low points. Lots of money for big events, but also low ratings and busts. Around the edges, things come and go, careers & promotions explode and implode. But overall the business is still robust and ultimately survives. Some would call it stale, but it's successful....and in the end that's not really a bad thing.
I guess one could argue the WWF's New Generation stuff in 1995 and 1996 was an attempt to start a new Silver Age, but given McMahon's $$$ losses it's definitely an Atomic Age.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2009 17:04:27 GMT -5
I see it as follows: 1985-93: Golden Age 1994-7: Dark Ages 1998-2003: Silver Age 2003-present: Dark Ages 2003-Present ain't perfect but I'd easily put it above the New Generation Era |
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Post by JerryvonKramer on Jul 29, 2009 17:14:00 GMT -5
Using the model of comic book history's use of ages...... 1984-1993 - Golden Age 1994-1996 - Atomic Age 1997-2001 - Silver Age 2002-present - Bronze Age The Golden Age was when the genre became greatly popular and took off, changing the model that existed before (which was just....there) and redefined it for a radically different, and very successful, future. The Atomic Age is when the sudden surge of the Golden Age slows down dramatically. And, in some places, dies off completely. Nothing great of note happens, more failure than success. The business is able to live on, but it's the quick rush of success is slowed to a crawl and possible disaster for all looms. The Silver Age was when the stuff of the Golden Age was transformed and reinvisioned for a new audience, and winds up growing out of the disasterous Atomic Age to be bigger than everything that had preceded it. Like comics, wrestling's Silver Age started slow, with small steps at first to see if it would work, and slowly the elements began to build up and change everything, and suddenly it caught on like a wildfire and thus a new model, with even more success, was born. The Bronze Age, which I think wrestling is still in, is the holdover of the Silver Age. The business is still feeding off the success of the Silver Age. Things are still generally successful. Good ideas come, bad ideas come. There are high points and low points. Lots of money for big events, but also low ratings and busts. Around the edges, things come and go, careers & promotions explode and implode. But overall the business is still robust and ultimately survives. Some would call it stale, but it's successful....and in the end that's not really a bad thing. I guess one could argue the WWF's New Generation stuff in 1995 and 1996 was an attempt to start a new Silver Age, but given McMahon's $$$ losses it's definitely an Atomic Age. This post is utter win. The only thing I'd quibble with is the idea that the Attitude Era/ Silver Age was more successful than the Golden Age. I honestly don't think Wrestling ever became as mainstream as it was 85-93 again after the so-called New Generation Era/ Atomic Age. |
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