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Post by squash on Sept 15, 2009 23:20:53 GMT -5
Hogan-Flair is Ali-Frazier about 25 years too late, but their star power alone is probably enough to get it over with a non-US audience. I think the sleeper actually could be Hardy -- his legal problems aside, he is still one of the top guys in the business and could pull in a lot of current fans who are cynical about Hogan-Flair and the whole legends thing.
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Sept 15, 2009 23:27:50 GMT -5
See, this is why the fantasy scenario of Bischoff actually buying WCW never enticed me: This is exactly what WCW would look like today under his control.
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Sept 16, 2009 0:04:58 GMT -5
This just sounds like an all around bad idea.
Hogan doesn't need to be in a ring. Flair is retired and needs to stay that way....it's spitting in the face of his legacy and WWE/HBK imo.....not only that but we know he aint' gonna win.
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Post by crnau87 on Sept 16, 2009 0:17:26 GMT -5
This is wrestling not professional basketball/football where you have to be in tiptop shape to do this sorta stuff. Ric is being real he ain't that old and tbh the guys who say "WWE sent you out great" Yep they did out of the "BIG ONE" not the small things and if this thing go's balistic it'll be a huge success for EB.
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Post by crnau87 on Sept 16, 2009 0:18:59 GMT -5
Also remember WWE is Permanent this is a one time thing it ain't hurting what Ric built. He's doing it for the fans who miss him and want to see him down under (Me included) I love watching flairs routine the art form he created and continued to do from his days in WCW-NWA
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Post by Dolph Zalgo on Sept 16, 2009 0:30:40 GMT -5
- The promotion has contacted Jeff Hardy to work the tour. Wow. Really? Jeff Hardy is a top draw. As long as he does not completely screw up (like in TNA) he is money to any promotion.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Sept 16, 2009 0:42:52 GMT -5
This just sounds like an all around bad idea. Hogan doesn't need to be in a ring. Flair is retired and needs to stay that way....it's spitting in the face of his legacy and WWE/HBK imo.....not only that but we know he aint' gonna win. Due to his divorce, Hogan's gonna need all the money he can get. Surburban Commando 2, anyone?
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Post by glorydays on Sept 16, 2009 7:27:05 GMT -5
Wow. A farewell tour in Austrailia headlined by two of the biggest names ever and people are complaining about who will do the job and are coming up with reasons why this is a bad idea? This is definitely a smarky message board.
Hogan and Flair are there to put on a show. It's not going to be Bash at the Beach 1994 quality, but who bloody cares? It's booked for an international market that has apparently never seen Hogan live, and it's a chance for two guys on their last legs to earn a paycheck when they really need it. I doubt they will get Hardy, but even if it is a show booked around 80's stars, what's the big deal? Hopefully it does good business and gives the Austrailian market a fun string of shows.
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Post by whitecrxsses on Sept 16, 2009 7:50:17 GMT -5
Hello, WCW!
Missed you.
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Post by brutuscheesecake on Sept 16, 2009 16:50:50 GMT -5
No surprise at all. Flair is all about wrestling, and the WWF muscled him out with this retirement angle. He never wanted to retire...he needs to die in the ring. Some guys just never can quit, Flair is one of them
If Flair wanted to protect his legacy he would've quit around 1995 and we would've never known him as some jiggly boobed geezer.
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Post by JerryvonKramer on Sept 16, 2009 16:53:44 GMT -5
Ric Flair could have retired in 1990 and he'd still be the greatest of all time. Whatever we got from then on was a bonus. The fact that so much of his 90s and 00s output was great too is just testament to the man.
He's wrestling's Bob Dylan.
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Post by romafan87 on Sept 16, 2009 18:17:47 GMT -5
Ric Flair could have retired in 1990 and he'd still be the greatest of all time. Whatever we got from then on was a bonus. The fact that so much of his 90s and 00s output was great too is just testament to the man. He's wrestling's Bob Dylan. I would argue, especially with his character, he is the complete antithesis of Bob Dylan, even career arc wise. Ah, never mind. I won't even bother. You're always right. I'll just stick to the Botchamania threads.
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Post by JerryvonKramer on Sept 16, 2009 18:26:45 GMT -5
Ric Flair could have retired in 1990 and he'd still be the greatest of all time. Whatever we got from then on was a bonus. The fact that so much of his 90s and 00s output was great too is just testament to the man. He's wrestling's Bob Dylan. I would argue, especially with his character, he is the complete antithesis of Bob Dylan, even career arc wise. How do you mean career arc wise? Dylan was a very talented and promising kid (First album) (Flair in the 70s) Then had a decade of sheer brilliance (everything from Freewheelin' up until New Morning in 1970) (Flair from 1983 to 1990) Then a bit of a dip (Dylan around the time of Self Portrait to 1974) (Flair 1990-1 in WCW) Then some more sheer awesomeness (Blood on the Tracks, Desire, Street Legal, arguably Slow Train as well) (Flair in WWF and 1994 WCW) Then he went out of vogue for a while (Dylan in the 80s, Flair in the mid-late 90s) Then a spark of life out of nowhere (Dylan: Oh Mercy, 1989) (Flair: Evolution) Before a late winter Renaissance a la W.B. Yeats (Dylan from Time out of Mind to Modern Times) (Flair's last WWE run -- ok, so this is pushing but WM24 and the send off) Yes, you're right, I am always right! ;D
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Post by Viva on Sept 16, 2009 18:31:03 GMT -5
I would argue, especially with his character, he is the complete antithesis of Bob Dylan, even career arc wise. How do you mean career arc wise? Dylan was a very talented and promising kid (First album) (Flair in the 70s) Then had a decade of sheer brilliance (everything from Freewheelin' up until New Morning in 1970) (Flair from 1983 to 1990) Then a bit of a dip (Dylan around the time of Self Portrait to 1974) (Flair 1990-1 in WCW) Then some more sheer awesomeness (Blood on the Tracks, Desire, Street Legal, arguably Slow Train as well) (Flair in WWF and 1994 WCW) Then he went out of vogue for a while (Dylan in the 80s, Flair in the mid-late 90s) Then a spark of life out of nowhere (Dylan: Oh Mercy, 1989) (Flair: Evolution) Before a late winter Renaissance a la W.B. Yeats (Dylan from Time out of Mind to Modern Times) (Flair's last WWE run -- ok, so this is pushing but WM24 and the send off) Yes, you're right, I am always right! ;D Ah, never mind. I won't even bother. You're always right.
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Sept 16, 2009 18:35:23 GMT -5
*flushes toilet*
there went the greatest sendoff in wrestling history and the remainder of Flair's legacy.
*turd comes back up*
and that's hogan.......
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Post by Dean-o on Sept 16, 2009 18:37:08 GMT -5
I can't wait for the DVD of the tour. I just know some kid is going to ask his father why the DVD is playing in slow motion.
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Post by glorydays on Sept 16, 2009 19:11:32 GMT -5
*flushes toilet* there went the greatest sendoff in wrestling history and the remainder of Flair's legacy.... So it's Flair's fault that Vince (probably moreso HHH) decided to give him a huge send-off? If he has bills to pay and all he knows how to do is pretend fight, then what the heck do you expect him to do? Get further in debt just to preserve a storyline on a fake wrestling show? Let Flair earn his money. I would love to see some of you practice what you preach when you are out in the real world. No politics, retire early, always let the young guys take your spot, etc, etc. Yeah, have fun flipping burgers your whole lives. I don't even like Flair, never have, but to dog him for trying to make money in a recession as he faces a huge divorce and retirement age is ridiculous.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Sept 16, 2009 19:19:42 GMT -5
meh, it's not a big deal. It's just a legends tour in a foreign country. It happens when "retired" legends wrestle every now and then. Now if he came back to WWe or TNA and started actively wrestling every week and challenging for titles, then yes it's a total piss on the legacy.
They should call the tour: Hogan and Flair alimony support tour.
The main event should be Hogan and Flair vs. Divorce.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Sept 16, 2009 19:39:14 GMT -5
*flushes toilet* there went the greatest sendoff in wrestling history and the remainder of Flair's legacy.... So it's Flair's fault that Vince (probably moreso HHH) decided to give him a huge send-off? If he has bills to pay and all he knows how to do is pretend fight, then what the heck do you expect him to do? Get further in debt just to preserve a storyline on a fake wrestling show? Let Flair earn his money. I would love to see some of you practice what you preach when you are out in the real world. No politics, retire early, always let the young guys take your spot, etc, etc. Yeah, have fun flipping burgers your whole lives. I don't even like Flair, never have, but to dog him for trying to make money in a recession as he faces a huge divorce and retirement age is ridiculous. He had a job in WWE making six to seven figures a year as their lead PR guy and turned it down to rob indy promoters. He had a good job, could have preserved his sendoff and, made money but, he refused.
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Post by romafan87 on Sept 16, 2009 19:44:29 GMT -5
Yes, you're right, I am always right! ;D
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