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Post by Youngie on Sept 17, 2009 12:22:53 GMT -5
From his Autobiography:
Top 5:
Ed "Strangler" Lewis
Joe Stecher
Frank Gotch
Jim Browning
George Hackenschmidt
Rest (in Alphabetical order):
Bert Assirati
Jack Brisco
Martin "Farmer" Burns
Earl Caddoch
Verne Gagne
The Great Gama
George Gordienko
Karl Gotch
Danny Hodge
Dick Hutton
Luther Lindsey
Bobby Managoff
Leo Nomellini
Rikidozan
Billy Robinson
Ad Santel
Dara Singh
Ray Steele
George Tragos
Stanislaus Zybysko
Noteworthy: Vic and Ted Christy
Great innovators list:
Andre the Giant
Gorgeous George
Don Leo Jonathan
Gene Kiniski
Buddy Rogers
Johnny Valentine
Smart in leaving wrestling guys list:
Don Curtis
Larry Hennig
Hiro Matsuda
Robin Reed
Brad Rheinigans
Dan Severn
Tim Woods
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Post by Samoa Kenny on Sept 17, 2009 12:59:24 GMT -5
No Cena?
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Post by neal on Sept 17, 2009 13:03:23 GMT -5
Thesz croaked before Cena's run in WWE.
Going by the "smart in leaving wrestling" list you'd think Thesz was at least a little bit of a prick.
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Post by Naniwa on Sept 17, 2009 13:15:26 GMT -5
From what I've read Thesz didn't like anyone who wasn't a shooter, I think there's a Jim Ross quote which went long the lines of "he was a nice guy but too old school, if he'd had his way guys would still be wrestling in wool tights"
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Post by NOwave on Sept 17, 2009 16:12:27 GMT -5
I'd agree with the "wool tights" comment. He included no one whos wrestled in the past 25 years. I'm not sure when he died, but if Lou left Kurt Angle off the list of best "real" wrestlers, then i question his credibility.
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Post by neal on Sept 17, 2009 16:18:58 GMT -5
I'd agree with the "wool tights" comment. He included no one whos wrestled in the past 25 years. I'm not sure when he died, but if Lou left Kurt Angle off the list of best "real" wrestlers, then i question his credibility. Thesz's autobiography was written before Kurt Angle was in the WWF, as far as I know. |
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Post by thwak is T.hawk on Sept 17, 2009 16:20:03 GMT -5
I'd agree with the "wool tights" comment. He included no one whos wrestled in the past 25 years. I'm not sure when he died, but if Lou left Kurt Angle off the list of best "real" wrestlers, then i question his credibility. I want to say he died in the 90's just before kurt debuted. EDIT: ok I was wrong he died in 2002 according to wikipedia. |
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Post by Gopher Mod on Sept 17, 2009 16:24:41 GMT -5
I'd agree with the "wool tights" comment. He included no one whos wrestled in the past 25 years. I'm not sure when he died, but if Lou left Kurt Angle off the list of best "real" wrestlers, then i question his credibility. Dan "The Beast" Severn isn't retired. |
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Post by Kick Your Face on Sept 17, 2009 16:34:42 GMT -5
Seeing that this is mostly based on the early 80s and before, I'm extremely surprised that he didn't mention Jumbo Tsuruta, the Funks or the Destroyer at all.
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Post by JerryvonKramer on Sept 17, 2009 18:49:59 GMT -5
Ok, I'm going to cross out the people here I have not heard of. Top 5: Ed "Strangler" Lewis
Joe Stecher
Frank Gotch
Jim Browning
George HackenschmidtRest (in Alphabetical order): Bert AssiratiJack Brisco Martin "Farmer" BurnsEarl CaddochVerne Gagne The Great Gama
George Gordienko
Karl Gotch
Danny Hodge
Dick Hutton
Luther Lindsey
Bobby Managoff
Leo Nomellini
Rikidozan
Billy Robinson
Ad Santel
Dara Singh
Ray Steele
George Tragos
Stanislaus ZybyskoNoteworthy: Vic and Ted ChristyGreat innovators list: Andre the Giant Gorgeous George Don Leo JonathanGene Kiniski Buddy Rogers Johnny Valentine Smart in leaving wrestling guys list:
Don CurtisLarry Hennig Hiro Matsuda Robin Reed
Brad Rheinigans
Dan Severn
Tim WoodsGuys, I'm not being funny here but who the hell are these people? Did they wrestle in the 50s?  |
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Sept 17, 2009 19:01:20 GMT -5
The top 5 were turn of the century-1940s/50s guys.
Check out Online world of wrestling for profiles on the other guys. A lot of huge names there. Rikidozan in particular. Without him vs Thesz, there would be no Baba, no Inoki so no All and New Japan.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Sept 17, 2009 19:11:39 GMT -5
Top 5: Ed "Strangler" Lewis
Joe Stecher
Frank Gotch
Jim Browning
George HackenschmidtThese were all from the early days of wrestling. I believe Ed Strangler Lewis train Lou.Rest (in Alphabetical order): Bert AssiratiJack Brisco Martin "Farmer" BurnsEarl CaddochVerne Gagne The Great Gama
George Gordienko
Karl Gotch
Danny Hodge
Dick Hutton
Luther Lindsey
Bobby Managoff
Leo Nomellini
Rikidozan
Billy Robinson
Ad Santel
Dara Singh
Ray Steele
George Tragos
Stanislaus ZybyskoWow. No knowledge of the first real JApanese superstar in Rikidozan? The epic battles (in the 70's) between Verne and Billy Robinson? Danny Hodge, a man with so much strength that he could literally pull pliers apart (and is feared for his handshake even today in his 80's)?Noteworthy: Vic and Ted ChristyGreat innovators list: Andre the Giant Gorgeous George Don Leo JonathanGene Kiniski Buddy Rogers Johnny Valentine Don LEo was one of the most agile big men of the 50's- 70'sSmart in leaving wrestling guys list:
Don CurtisLarry Hennig Hiro Matsuda Robin Reed
Brad Rheinigans
Dan Severn
Tim WoodsYou really don't know who Dan Severn is? REALLY? Tim Woods was the original Mr. Wrestling btw.Guys, I'm not being funny here but who the hell are these people? Did they wrestle in the 50s? This makes me incredibly sad. |
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Post by JerryvonKramer on Sept 17, 2009 19:29:41 GMT -5
It's not only sad, but also pretty worrying. I mean I'm a guy who is actively interested in wrestling history, and they might as well have been a list of random names.
That said, I was surprised to see Édouard Carpentier wasn't there.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 19:37:18 GMT -5
It's not only sad, but also pretty worrying. I mean I'm a guy who is actively interested in wrestling history, and they might as well have been a list of random names. That said, I was surprised to see Édouard Carpentier wasn't there. Not to be mean but you've heard of Carpentier but not Strangler Lewis or Frank Gotch? That's a bit odd. |
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Post by JerryvonKramer on Sept 17, 2009 19:44:19 GMT -5
Yeah, it's because Jesse Ventura mentioned him whenever Lord Steven Regal did a somersault senton.  |
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Post by neal on Sept 17, 2009 19:48:48 GMT -5
It's not only sad, but also pretty worrying. I mean I'm a guy who is actively interested in wrestling history, and they might as well have been a list of random names. That said, I was surprised to see Édouard Carpentier wasn't there. Carpentier was very overated. Good but nowhere near his reputation. And how could you not have heard of Strangler Lewis and Rikidozan? Strangler Lewis was the world champion for several years (the Hulk Hogan of his era) and Rikodozan is the father of Japanese pro wrestling. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 19:50:13 GMT -5
Yeah, it's because Jesse Ventura mentioned him whenever Lord Steven Regal did a somersault senton. See, but you have a really cool reason to remember him, though ;D. The more I read about older wrestling, the more I realize that there was an insane amount of good wrestlers back in the day. I've heard of about 3/4 of the people on the list but there's tons and tons of guys that I've never heard of that were damn good. You figure, those are just the guys that really stood out to Lou, those were great wrestlers by his standards. There had to be a ton more. |
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Post by FrankGotch on Sept 17, 2009 20:48:47 GMT -5
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Sept 17, 2009 21:07:23 GMT -5
If it tells you anything about Danny Hodge, at Fanfest last month, as Jim Cornette was cracking a few jokes at the start of the Hall of Heroes ceremony, he said, "Danny Hodge is here. Danny, there was a message at the front desk for you, it said, "I need my belt back, can you make the next Pay Per View?" signed Dana White"
Of course it was just a joke. But that's the kind of guy he was, and he's still in great shape.
I could give you another story that might give you an idea, but first I'd have to tell you a couple stories about Don Jardine to set it up.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Sept 17, 2009 21:13:01 GMT -5
Dude, tell.
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