Ragnal
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Post by Ragnal on Sept 2, 2009 11:21:15 GMT -5
Hi guys. I'm doing some research on the tenure Jigsaw had in ROH for an article, but unfortunately my only source seems to be an ROH Wiki that doesn't quite give all the details I need, aside from "He couldn't wrestle due to injuries".
So, I have a few questions...
Why was Jigsaw put on the Vulture Squad? What reasons, kayfabe and nonkayfabe, were there for Jigsaw taking his mask off? Why'd he leave ROH?
Thanks in advance for the help.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Sept 2, 2009 11:24:58 GMT -5
Well, he was added to the Vulture Squad because he fit the "high flyer" mold that they had established with Jack Evans and Ruckus. As for the mask thing, I'm not sure exactly what the kayfabe reason was, but I heard various "non-kayfabe" excused, including the fact that Gabe apparently doesn't like masks and that Jigsaw couldn't talk with the mask on. Not sure why he left, either.
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Post by thwak is T.hawk on Sept 2, 2009 11:26:15 GMT -5
Hi guys. I'm doing some research on the tenure Jigsaw had in ROH for an article, but unfortunately my only source seems to be an ROH Wiki that doesn't quite give all the details I need, aside from "He couldn't wrestle due to injuries". So, I have a few questions... Why was Jigsaw put on the Vulture Squad? Who the hell knows. The best kayfabe way I could figure was that Julius Smokes liked his Style of wrestling and thought he could be a good addition. Kayfabe: he needed to transform. Non-Kayfabe: Gabe thought Jigsaw would be better if he learned out to sell with facial reactions. There was also some talk about taking off the mask improving his vision. They got rid of the vulture squad in general and they never really caught on with the fans. Plus this was during the time where Gabe had too many stables at one time and the vulture squad just fell victim to Gabe's booking.
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Sept 2, 2009 13:03:04 GMT -5
Well, he was added to the Vulture Squad because he fit the "high flyer" mold that they had established with Jack Evans and Ruckus. As for the mask thing, I'm not sure exactly what the kayfabe reason was, but I heard various "non-kayfabe" excused, including the fact that Gabe apparently doesn't like masks and that Jigsaw couldn't talk with the mask on. Not sure why he left, either. Unfortunately Jigsaw can't really talk at all. He's better than some but he's no Sweeney. The biggest problem is that once Jigsaw took the mask off he looked like a 15 year old bagging groceries at Albertson's. Jigsaw is one of those guys who's charisma is 100% provided by a single aspect, in this case his mask. Without it he's Black Top Bully's opponent on WCW Saturday Night.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Sept 2, 2009 15:05:23 GMT -5
They got rid of the vulture squad in general and they never really caught on with the fans. Plus this was during the time where Gabe had too many stables at one time and the vulture squad just fell victim to Gabe's booking. The Squad was over with the fans, and were around after most of the factions had been killed off. the problem was it was build for Jack Evans and once he left ROH they lost their purpose. as for why he left, he and Ruckus were victims of Pearce taking ROH in a new direct by (among other things) cutting out high flying
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Post by Nacho STAYS Hyped on Sept 2, 2009 15:14:51 GMT -5
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