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Post by Tyfo on Dec 20, 2006 23:14:45 GMT -5
John Cena is about 6'1-6'2 and around 260 lbs. Do you consider him a hoss like Batista, Lashley, Test, Heidenreich, Khali, Nathan Jones, ect.?
I always thought it was a size based label, maybe im wrong? What do you think.
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Post by jcdenton on Dec 20, 2006 23:15:28 GMT -5
I think so, Inhumanly ripped, very strong, not very agile
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Dec 20, 2006 23:20:49 GMT -5
Here's my personal definition of 'Hoss'.
'A wrestler that is around primarily for his height and, to a lesser extent, his weight. He does not have to be in particularily good shape, or have an impressive or attractive physique. He can be ugly as sin. He is around solely because he is far bigger than the average man, for novelty purposes.
Generally, he does a big boot, some sort of low-impact slam that is hard to screw up, and a number of generic strikes. He is not around for his wrestling ability, charisma, marketability (concerning mechandise and public appearances), or long term career advancement. He's there for the circus, freak show aspect, so people can say 'wow, he's big'.
Good examples of the generic, shapeless Hoss are,
- Mark Henry
- Nathan Jones
- Matt Morgan
- Gene Snitsky
- Luther Reigns
- Test
- Albert
Note that not all of the above mentioned are entirely without merit. Some have learned more than the bare basics and turned into semi-decent 'big men'. Some may even have charisma. But they were not hired because of charisma, they were hired because they're big.'
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Dec 20, 2006 23:21:16 GMT -5
I think so, Inhumanly ripped, very strong, not very agile Cena moves like he has rockets in his boots. He's plenty agile. |
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Post by Rocky Van Heineken on Dec 20, 2006 23:22:36 GMT -5
He can count his movelist on one hand. He's a hoss.
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Post by Bill. on Dec 20, 2006 23:22:42 GMT -5
Freestylin' Cena ftw.
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Post by nostradumbass on Dec 20, 2006 23:23:20 GMT -5
No. Not at all.
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Post by jcdenton on Dec 20, 2006 23:23:22 GMT -5
I think so, Inhumanly ripped, very strong, not very agile Cena moves like he has rockets in his boots. He's plenty agile. ya, hes fast, but I never seen him be overly agile, however compared to say, henry, hes got wingged feat |
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Dec 20, 2006 23:24:28 GMT -5
Cena moves like he has rockets in his boots. He's plenty agile. ya, hes fast, but I never seen him be overly agile, however compared to say, henry, hes got wingged feat I thought ... I thought 'fast' and 'agile' were synonyms. |
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Post by jcdenton on Dec 20, 2006 23:26:11 GMT -5
ya, hes fast, but I never seen him be overly agile, however compared to say, henry, hes got wingged feat I thought ... I thought 'fast' and 'agile' were synonyms. not exactly, spead is part of aglity, but so is flexaitly, and range of movement without moveing feet |
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Dec 20, 2006 23:30:58 GMT -5
He can count his movelist on one hand. He's a hoss. Yeah, except that he did more than five moves last Monday. But I won't let that get in the way of a good flaming. |
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Post by mo on Dec 20, 2006 23:40:19 GMT -5
no
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Post by thegame415 on Dec 20, 2006 23:41:50 GMT -5
SNITSKY
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Post by erisi236 on Dec 20, 2006 23:46:08 GMT -5
not quite, my definition of a "Hoss" is a guy with no neck because his trapezoid muscles are so huge.  |
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Post by duxgutz on Dec 20, 2006 23:54:23 GMT -5
I'm unfamiliar with the American lingo...  Does it have anything to do with either... Hoss Cartwright from 'Bonanza' or Hoss Funk... 80's flashback of wrestling legend Terry Funk & his 'Wrestlecrap' worthy 'extended family' i.e. Jimmy Jack? |
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Post by kitsunestar on Dec 20, 2006 23:56:12 GMT -5
ya, hes fast, but I never seen him be overly agile, however compared to say, henry, hes got wingged feat I thought ... I thought 'fast' and 'agile' were synonyms. I always thought of agility as being a mix of flexibility and balance. Being able to weave your body through difficult spaces and situations. |
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Post by Cyno on Dec 20, 2006 23:58:05 GMT -5
If Cena's a hoss, Triple H is a cruiserweight.
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Post by Rocky Van Heineken on Dec 21, 2006 0:23:42 GMT -5
He can count his movelist on one hand. He's a hoss. Yeah, except that he did more than five moves last Monday. But I won't let that get in the way of a good flaming. I appreciate good flaming. |
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Post by kitsunestar on Dec 21, 2006 0:24:47 GMT -5
Yeah, except that he did more than five moves last Monday. But I won't let that get in the way of a good flaming. I appreciate good flaming. So does MVP | | V |
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Post by HRH The KING on Dec 21, 2006 0:28:40 GMT -5
He's not a hoss, but he is in danger of being generic.
His "rap" character was entertaining for me anyway, but now I'm not really sure what his character is supposed to be.
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