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Post by Sumbody Gon' Get Dey Kneelift on Dec 9, 2006 12:01:06 GMT -5
So. Professional Wrestling. It's fake.
Well, no, it's not. I hate it when people say that. That's like saying "Dance is fake," because ultimately, that's what pro-wrestling is. It's the highest evolution of the ancient Japanese Art of Kabuki, and in this sense, wrestling is not "fake." It's "staged." I prefer "staged" or "planned" to fake, because, generally things that are "fake" don't break your neck.
For example, at no point during the filming of the amazing film "Aliens" did Michael Biehn have to worry that one of the animatronic puppets would leap out and tear his face off. Because they were "fake."
See what I'm saying?
However, in wrestling, there are moves that defy all physical science. Most moves require at least some effort on the part of the victim; jumping into a powerbomb, etcetera. But then there are other moves...
Like the Rock Bottom, for example. Are we supposed to believe that the magnetic pull of his arm across your chest telekinetically yanks you five feet into the air?
List some of yours.
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Post by BD Punk AKA SUSPENDED! on Dec 9, 2006 12:03:11 GMT -5
The ass punch
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Dec 9, 2006 12:03:18 GMT -5
I don't see people screaming 'movies are fake!!'. Anyways.  Any X-Division move that requires the other guy to put fifty percent or more of the effort into him getting his head dropped into the canvas. You all know what I mean ... the Canadian Destroyer. |
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Dec 9, 2006 12:03:46 GMT -5
The ass punch makes TONS of sense. He's on the top rope ... he has momentum coming down. Perfect sense. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2006 12:04:01 GMT -5
F-U. I've gotten hit with it before and got up pretty quick.
STF-U. It's not even executed right, and Cena leaves his opponent's chin perfectly not contacting his arm. Yet it's treated to be the most devestating submission hold in the 'E.
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Post by therob on Dec 9, 2006 12:06:03 GMT -5
The ass punch makes TONS of sense. He's on the top rope ... he has momentum coming down. Perfect sense. Most sense I have ever seen. |
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Dec 9, 2006 12:06:40 GMT -5
F-U. I've gotten hit with it before and got up pretty quick. STF-U. It's not even executed right, and Cena leaves his opponent's chin perfectly not contacting his arm. Yet it's treated to be the most devestating submission hold in the 'E. The thing is, Cena doesn't have to use nuances. He's strong enough to just stretch your neck and back the hard way. It makes enough sense to me. Same with the F-U. It's a slam like any other, and he does all the work. |
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Post by KEJB on Dec 9, 2006 12:06:51 GMT -5
Yup the Canadian Destroyer...Although when he hits it from a running start, It looks way believable.
Burchills C-5 or whatever is way worse though. Awesome wrestler. Horrible Finisher.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2006 12:07:48 GMT -5
F-U. I've gotten hit with it before and got up pretty quick. STF-U. It's not even executed right, and Cena leaves his opponent's chin perfectly not contacting his arm. Yet it's treated to be the most devestating submission hold in the 'E. The thing is, Cena doesn't have to use nuances. He's strong enough to just stretch your neck and back the hard way. It makes enough sense to me. Same with the F-U. It's a slam like any other, and he does all the work. What I meant is by the way it's treated. The "damage" really is illogical. |
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Dec 9, 2006 12:09:15 GMT -5
Yup the Canadian Destroyer...Although when he hits it from a running start, It looks way believable. Burchills C-5 or whatever is way worse though. Awesome wrestler. Horrible Finisher. The C-4 is pretty bad. Again - any move that has the other guy do ANYTHING looks silly. I mean, you jump up to take a slam ... sure. Mysterio giving the Big Show or, hell, pretty much anyone a leg scissors. I'm supposed to believe that a guy his size has the pure LEG STRENGTH to pull a man three times his weight and THROW him into the ropes? |
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Dec 9, 2006 12:10:07 GMT -5
The thing is, Cena doesn't have to use nuances. He's strong enough to just stretch your neck and back the hard way. It makes enough sense to me. Same with the F-U. It's a slam like any other, and he does all the work. What I meant is by the way it's treated. The "damage" really is illogical. Well, maybe, but the same could easily be said for the Rock Bottom. 'Okay ... now I'm on my back.' The F-U is far more believable than a ton of X-Division or Cruiserweight moves, still. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2006 12:12:58 GMT -5
What I meant is by the way it's treated. The "damage" really is illogical. Well, maybe, but the same could easily be said for the Rock Bottom. 'Okay ... now I'm on my back.' The F-U is far more believable than a ton of X-Division or Cruiserweight moves, still. X-Division and Crusierweight moves are pretty bad, too. But I don't find the F-U believable to knock out a 250 pound man. Just like Batista's spinebuster. Cena and Batista "Khali" their moves---that is, they slow them down too much. |
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Dec 9, 2006 12:16:06 GMT -5
Well, maybe, but the same could easily be said for the Rock Bottom. 'Okay ... now I'm on my back.' The F-U is far more believable than a ton of X-Division or Cruiserweight moves, still. X-Division and Crusierweight moves are pretty bad, too. But I don't find the F-U believable to knock out a 250 pound man. Just like Batista's spinebuster. Cena and Batista "Khali" their moves---that is, they slow them down too much. Actually, the bigger the guy, the harder it would hit. Now, if he hits it on a regular guy in good shape, then they should by all rights get up fairly quickly. But if the Big Show was put right on his back with it, I'd believe it. All that weight hitting the ground would be enough to put him down. Again, you have to suspend belief in those cases, since it is wrestling. But this thread is more for moves that shouldn't even work as MOVES, in reality. |
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Post by samachine on Dec 9, 2006 12:17:16 GMT -5
No one has said 619?Seriously?
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Post by Head Detective Aaron Enigma on Dec 9, 2006 12:17:19 GMT -5
I still don't understand the Brain Chop, I mean...it's a chop to the head, I could do that too lol.
I think a move that makes pretty bad sense is the Sudden Death by Elix Skipper because there's no way without the other person holding on to you would you be able to spin him around your body like that before slamming him down.
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Post by erisi236 on Dec 9, 2006 12:17:34 GMT -5
anything the requires the "victim" to climb the ropes and then let themselves get hooked up is a bit "suspect" like the Muscle Buster, Greenbay Plunge or the Pepsi Plunge. |
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Post by Red 'n' Black Reggie on Dec 9, 2006 12:22:36 GMT -5
I still don't understand the Brain Chop, I mean...it's a chop to the head, I could do that too lol. so? i could do the stunner, but that doesnt make it crap. anyway... the "old school" is pretty daft. why not just push him off? |
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Post by Sumbody Gon' Get Dey Kneelift on Dec 9, 2006 12:23:23 GMT -5
I always wanted them to let go during the Sudden Death, and just send Skipper flying.
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Post by Suck it Trebek! on Dec 9, 2006 12:23:43 GMT -5
Edge's Spear
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Dec 9, 2006 12:25:29 GMT -5
See, this is why I like Christopher Daniels.
His moves all have that 'ooooh' factor, with plenty of legitimate impact to them.
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