Rey Was in Drug Rehab

[destrucity]

I never heard this before but it appears that Rey was in rehab for prescription pill abuse last year. I don't know what to think about this. I'm glad he got the help he needed but am now even more disappointed that he was suspended this year.

prowrestling.about.com/od/reviews/gr/reymysteriobookreview.htm

[Bubble Lead]

Nov 5, 2009 16:35:24 GMT -5 destrucity said:

I never heard this before but it appears that Rey was in rehab for prescription pill abuse last year. I don't know what to think about this. I'm glad he got the help he needed but am now even more disappointed that he was suspended this year.

prowrestling.about.com/od/reviews/gr/reymysteriobookreview.htm

So he was in rehab while wrestling and Wellness didn't catch it?

So much for the legitimacy of that. Also pokes holes in opinions like BRIAN KENDRICK SMOKED WEED SO HE DIDNT DESERVE A PUSH!

Edit: Nevermind, I read the blurb that it was during his time off during that Kane storyline. That makes it even worse IMO, since WWE put something on air to cover it up.

[derrtaysouth95]

I mean....good for him for getting the help he needed.

It seems they would have fixed the date issues in the book. Even if Rey can't remember....the internet is your friend. Same with video evidence.

[Clash, Never a Meter Maid]

Nov 5, 2009 17:41:22 GMT -5 Bubble Lead said:

So much for the legitimacy of that. Also pokes holes in opinions like BRIAN KENDRICK SMOKED WEED SO HE DIDNT DESERVE A PUSH!

C'mon man, let's not start that up again.

[Bubble Lead]

Nov 5, 2009 18:08:01 GMT -5 Clash, Never a Meter Maid said:

Nov 5, 2009 17:41:22 GMT -5 Bubble Lead said:

So much for the legitimacy of that. Also pokes holes in opinions like BRIAN KENDRICK SMOKED WEED SO HE DIDNT DESERVE A PUSH!

C'mon man, let's not start that up again.

Nah, if anything I would just say it adds legitimacy to the idea that WWE protects its moneymakers in regards to Wellness.

Not that the way Reys Wellness violation went down in September didn't already add to it. His punishment was a Tag Team title match on PPV after a vacation.

Wellness is a transparent joke at this point.

[Ragnal]

Nov 5, 2009 18:14:28 GMT -5 Bubble Lead said:

Nov 5, 2009 18:08:01 GMT -5 Clash, Never a Meter Maid said:

C'mon man, let's not start that up again.

Nah, if anything I would just say it adds legitimacy to the idea that WWE protects its moneymakers in regards to Wellness.

Not that the way Reys Wellness violation went down in September didn't already add to it. His punishment was a Tag Team title match on PPV after a vacation.

Wellness is a transparent joke at this point.

On the bright side, neither he nor Batista won the tag match, nor the World title, and it set up for the greatest meme ever, "YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE MAH FRIEND! WAAAAAGH!"

[Clash, Never a Meter Maid]

Nov 5, 2009 18:14:28 GMT -5 Bubble Lead said:

Nov 5, 2009 18:08:01 GMT -5 Clash, Never a Meter Maid said:

C'mon man, let's not start that up again.

Nah, if anything I would just say it adds legitimacy to the idea that WWE protects its moneymakers in regards to Wellness.

Not that the way Reys Wellness violation went down in September didn't already add to it. His punishment was a Tag Team title match on PPV after a vacation.

Wellness is a transparent joke at this point.

Oh, well that's fine. I just wanted to avoid another pot debate, in order for the thread to not de-evolve.

[Bubble Lead]

Nov 5, 2009 18:39:35 GMT -5 Clash, Never a Meter Maid said:

Nov 5, 2009 18:14:28 GMT -5 Bubble Lead said:

Nah, if anything I would just say it adds legitimacy to the idea that WWE protects its moneymakers in regards to Wellness.

Not that the way Reys Wellness violation went down in September didn't already add to it. His punishment was a Tag Team title match on PPV after a vacation.

Wellness is a transparent joke at this point.

Oh, well that's fine. I just wanted to avoid another pot debate, in order for the thread to not de-evolve.

Understandable, I wasn't trying to turn it into a pot debate, more a debate on why one guy can go to rehab and be covered in storyline for being addicted to a drug and the other guy eventually gets released because he does some other drug regularly.

[Spudz]

Here's a thought, Rey might not have been taken enough pain pills for him to fail a wellness but his injuries probably had him taken pain pills regularly and he felt he had became addicted to them so he got help.

[Bubble Lead]

Nov 5, 2009 20:24:48 GMT -5 Spudz said:

Here's a thought, Rey might not have been taken enough pain pills for him to fail a wellness but his injuries probably had him taken pain pills regularly and he felt he had became addicted to them so he got help.

If you get to the point that you are ADDICTED and Wellness cant trace that? That would be a severe problem with the Wellness Program.

Also doesn't explain how WWE wrote him out of the storyline to go to rehab instead of outright suspending him.

[derrtaysouth95]

Addiction has varying degrees.

It really depends on the person.

[Mayonnaise]

Nov 5, 2009 20:35:48 GMT -5 Bubble Lead said:

Nov 5, 2009 20:24:48 GMT -5 Spudz said:

Here's a thought, Rey might not have been taken enough pain pills for him to fail a wellness but his injuries probably had him taken pain pills regularly and he felt he had became addicted to them so he got help.

If you get to the point that you are ADDICTED and Wellness cant trace that? That would be a severe problem with the Wellness Program.

Also doesn't explain how WWE wrote him out of the storyline to go to rehab instead of outright suspending him.

If he has prescriptions then it waives any findings based on those drugs.

Also, if he went to WWE, as it sounds he did, and requested time off for rehab, it is better PR wise, employee relations wise and, legally to let him go rather than suspend him.

[Dub H]

Nov 5, 2009 18:17:30 GMT -5 Ragnal said:

Nov 5, 2009 18:14:28 GMT -5 Bubble Lead said:

Nah, if anything I would just say it adds legitimacy to the idea that WWE protects its moneymakers in regards to Wellness.

Not that the way Reys Wellness violation went down in September didn't already add to it. His punishment was a Tag Team title match on PPV after a vacation.

Wellness is a transparent joke at this point.

On the bright side, neither he nor Batista won the tag match, nor the World title, and it set up for the greatest meme ever, "YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE MAH FRIEND! WAAAAAGH!"

I would have marked if Rey awsered

"I never really was on your side" and then kicked him in the nuts

[Cavs for Mavs Mafia]

Nov 5, 2009 20:50:00 GMT -5 @derrtaysouth95 said:

Addiction has varying degrees.

It really depends on the person.

As an (recovering) addict, I'd say addictions are all pretty much the same, substance abuse has varying degrees. Once you reach the point of addiction theres no going back to "normal" use. You need to stay away from all substances. Rey might have just gone to rehab to look good and got his use under control on his own.


I guess it's all semantics anyway.

[SAJ Forth]

Nov 5, 2009 18:17:30 GMT -5 Ragnal said:

Nov 5, 2009 18:14:28 GMT -5 Bubble Lead said:

Nah, if anything I would just say it adds legitimacy to the idea that WWE protects its moneymakers in regards to Wellness.

Not that the way Reys Wellness violation went down in September didn't already add to it. His punishment was a Tag Team title match on PPV after a vacation.

Wellness is a transparent joke at this point.

On the bright side, neither he nor Batista won the tag match, nor the World title, and it set up for the greatest meme ever, "YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE MAH FRIEND! WAAAAAGH!"

That is funny as anything.

[seamonsters]

Addiction is a illness/psychosocial disorder. It doesn't reflect the amount of a substance that you are taking, just whether you have a dependency on that substance.

Now, Rey checked himself into rehab for "legal pain medications" - that doesn't cause a wellness violation for two reasons.

1) If one of the workers realises they have an addiction to painkillers, you want them to get better - you don't want to punish them for going to rehab.

2) The world legal suggests that they're either over the counter, or prescribed. Both of which are fine under wellness.

Now, with most substances that you become addicted to, it's through misuse/abuse, painkillers are different.

You take painkillers because you're in pain. But if you're in constant pain, and you take a regular dose of painkillers, your body becomes used to those painkillers, and you need to use stronger painkillers. So you go to your doctor, and he does what he feels is correct - more or stronger painkillers. This becomes a cycle - (similar to other substance addictions, but this is through medical advice, rather than misuse). There will of course come a time, when the Doctor knows you are coming close to the limits of what can be prescribed, or sees the patient starting to go into a cycle. This is when he has to make a judgment call - and if he thinks that the patient is becoming dependant on painkillers, he may recommend rehab.

I'm guessing this is a possibility in Rey's case - that he's taken medical advice to check himself in.

Nov 5, 2009 20:35:48 GMT -5 Bubble Lead said:

If you get to the point that you are ADDICTED and Wellness cant trace that? That would be a severe problem with the Wellness Program.

Well, no. Different people have different tolerances. Each drug has a limit to which it can safely be prescribed. If that is 1000mg a day, yet you feel dependent on five 100mg pills a day, you're not even going to raise a concern with a doctor, unless you tell him, let alone fail a wellness test.

There's also no suggestion at this point that Rey was addicted. He may have sought help because he thought he was on the road to becoming addicted and wanted to nip it in the bud.

Nov 5, 2009 20:54:08 GMT -5 Mayonnaise said:

Also doesn't explain how WWE wrote him out of the storyline to go to rehab instead of outright suspending him.

If he has prescriptions then it waives any findings based on those drugs.

Also, if he went to WWE, as it sounds he did, and requested time off for rehab, it is better PR wise, employee relations wise and, legally to let him go rather than suspend him.

Quite, and no point threatening to punish someone for going to rehab, because that way, they'll wait until they fail wellness, assuming they don't overdose first.

Nov 5, 2009 21:27:14 GMT -5 Cavs for Mavs Mafia said:

Nov 5, 2009 20:50:00 GMT -5 @derrtaysouth95 said:

Addiction has varying degrees.

It really depends on the person.

As an (recovering) addict, I'd say addictions are all pretty much the same, substance abuse has varying degrees. Once you reach the point of addiction theres no going back to "normal" use. You need to stay away from all substances. Rey might have just gone to rehab to look good and got his use under control on his own.

I think it was more of a comment that the dependency strikes people at different levels. Some people can drink the equivalent of a bottle of wine a day, but aren't dependent because they can go days, weeks, months without a glass. Some people on the other hand can become dependent on two bottles a week, because they have to have a drink every day.

[Cactus Jack]

Wow.

[Mozenrath]

So let me get this straight: he should of been punished for trying to get help? And wellness is the joke?

Maybe I'm out of touch, but maybe we ought to look at this from another angle. He should get in trouble when he uses substances, yes, but him being in rehab is a GOOD THING. It means he wants to be clean. It is a POSITIVE step.

If this was supposed to make me feel down on Rey, it failed rather miserably. He's a human being who has made some stupid decisions, but getting help was not among them.

[The Summer of Muskrat XVII]

Nov 6, 2009 20:05:29 GMT -5 seamonsters said:

Addiction is a illness/psychosocial disorder. It doesn't reflect the amount of a substance that you are taking, just whether you have a dependency on that substance.

Now, Rey checked himself into rehab for "legal pain medications" - that doesn't cause a wellness violation for two reasons.

1) If one of the workers realises they have an addiction to painkillers, you want them to get better - you don't want to punish them for going to rehab.

2) The world legal suggests that they're either over the counter, or prescribed. Both of which are fine under wellness.

Now, with most substances that you become addicted to, it's through misuse/abuse, painkillers are different.

You take painkillers because you're in pain. But if you're in constant pain, and you take a regular dose of painkillers, your body becomes used to those painkillers, and you need to use stronger painkillers. So you go to your doctor, and he does what he feels is correct - more or stronger painkillers. This becomes a cycle - (similar to other substance addictions, but this is through medical advice, rather than misuse). There will of course come a time, when the Doctor knows you are coming close to the limits of what can be prescribed, or sees the patient starting to go into a cycle. This is when he has to make a judgment call - and if he thinks that the patient is becoming dependant on painkillers, he may recommend rehab.

I'm guessing this is a possibility in Rey's case - that he's taken medical advice to check himself in.

Agreed. I was addicted to painkillers, but I was never to the point where it was a serious risk to my health. And it was never to the point where anyone but myself would have known.

But, I couldn't go a day without taking alot of pills due to chronic back and knee pain and eventually hit the point where I realized it had become an addiction and stopped taking painkillers for anything. Haven't taken one in over 3 years now.

I think alot of people fail to realize that addiction doesn't necessarily mean it's a problem people around you will notice, you can very easily be addicted to meds and have it look like you're using them responsibly