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Post by Mac on Nov 20, 2009 19:23:30 GMT -5
Its a good thing Taker v Taker happened at Summerslam and not Mania.
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Post by segaz on Nov 20, 2009 22:10:48 GMT -5
A draw would be way way way way WAY worse than a loss. That third number on win / lose records is nothing but a black eye. Now, what they should do, assuming they want a given person to benefit from a Taker Mania match, is make it two-out-of-three falls. That way Taker wins and it goes to 18-0, but the person he faces can claim they're the only person to pin Undertaker at WrestleMania, even if they didn't beat him. Well Taker couldn't get the job done at WM9. As someone else said, no clean win/tombstone in that one. Could he have even got Gonzalez up? Before Taker leaves, he needs a rematch with that Giant.
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Post by segaz on Nov 20, 2009 22:13:10 GMT -5
Its a good thing Taker v Taker happened at Summerslam and not Mania. LOL! How is Takers SS record anyway? And hasn't he lost every single RR match he's been in, single or otherwise?
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Post by salsashark on Nov 20, 2009 22:18:01 GMT -5
A draw would be way way way way WAY worse than a loss. That third number on win / lose records is nothing but a black eye. Now, what they should do, assuming they want a given person to benefit from a Taker Mania match, is make it two-out-of-three falls. That way Taker wins and it goes to 18-0, but the person he faces can claim they're the only person to pin Undertaker at WrestleMania, even if they didn't beat him. How in the world is a draw worse than a loss?
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Post by Hanzo on Nov 20, 2009 22:19:30 GMT -5
And hasn't he lost every single RR match he's been in, single or otherwise? He won the 2007 Royal Rumble. He defeated IRS at Rumble 95.
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Post by segaz on Nov 20, 2009 22:34:00 GMT -5
And hasn't he lost every single RR match he's been in, single or otherwise? He won the 2007 Royal Rumble. He defeated IRS at Rumble 95. Did I say RR? I meant KOTR...no, uh Survivor......No again. Well KOTR is his worst w/l record, right? I remember him winning KOTR 98, and that's it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2009 23:13:28 GMT -5
A draw would be way way way way WAY worse than a loss. That third number on win / lose records is nothing but a black eye. Now, what they should do, assuming they want a given person to benefit from a Taker Mania match, is make it two-out-of-three falls. That way Taker wins and it goes to 18-0, but the person he faces can claim they're the only person to pin Undertaker at WrestleMania, even if they didn't beat him. How in the world is a draw worse than a loss? A loss gives the satisfaction of knowing someone stood up, fought head-to-head, and ultimately managed to break it. A draw is just a letdown that completely kills the unstoppable aura of the streak while not actually being beneficial for anyone involved. Basically, a draw would mean the streak was broken but no one broke it.
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Post by drjayphd (feat. Pitbull) on Nov 21, 2009 0:04:20 GMT -5
In many fans' eyes, it would probably taint the streak a little. Wrestling operates in very black-and-white terms (even during Attitude), so it'd feel like the one Wrestlemania where Taker couldn't get the job done. It's insane, this streak's taint.
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Post by Red Impact on Nov 21, 2009 0:46:57 GMT -5
I've always been curious as to how people would respond if Taker was pinned in a 2/3 fall match at Mania but still won the whole thing. One one hand it could be seen as a tarnishing the streak by cheapening it, or it could potentially build a further feud between Undertaker and guy who pinned him. Similary, I was wondering how they'd play things if Taker was in a tag match, say the proposed Snitsky/Heidenriech v BOD match, and his partner ate the fall. Or a triple threat match and he wasn't the one pinned. In the first example, it's not really a loss. A loss would be two of the three went to his opponent. So such isn't counting as a loss, and I don't think it's cheapening it at all. The second two are losses, even if he wasn't pinned. Your team losing in a tag match is losing, and not winning a triple threat is still losing, so those would end it and probably annoy people who cared a lot, especially since it was a cheap loss.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2009 1:09:24 GMT -5
He won the 2007 Royal Rumble. He defeated IRS at Rumble 95. Did I say RR? I meant KOTR...no, uh Survivor......No again. Well KOTR is his worst w/l record, right? I remember him winning KOTR 98, and that's it. Dunno about the other shows, but remember these - 1999 - Beat the Rock. 2000 - Him, Rock, and Kane beat Triple H, Vince, and Shane. 2002 - Beat Triple H.
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Post by segaz on Nov 21, 2009 18:49:05 GMT -5
Did I say RR? I meant KOTR...no, uh Survivor......No again. Well KOTR is his worst w/l record, right? I remember him winning KOTR 98, and that's it. Dunno about the other shows, but remember these - 1999 - Beat the Rock. 2000 - Him, Rock, and Kane beat Triple H, Vince, and Shane. 2002 - Beat Triple H. wow. Ok...uh..Summerslam. No....despite losing at SS 97 and 98, he beat Mankind at 95, 'himself' at 94 and Giant Gonzalez at 93. Survivor Series? He won at '94 and 95......ah screw it. The man's got a good record anyway ya look at it. I still maintain his worst w/l ratio is at RR though. Including actual losses at the Rumble match, he lost at 92, 93, 94, 97, 98, (99?) uh...2001, '02, '03.......
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Post by Fantozzi on Nov 22, 2009 5:48:06 GMT -5
that would majorly suck
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Post by DSR on Nov 22, 2009 5:58:52 GMT -5
wow. Ok...uh..Summerslam. No....despite losing at SS 97 and 98, he beat Mankind at 95, 'himself' at 94 and Giant Gonzalez at 93. Minor corrections...Taker beat KAMA (the supreme fighting machine) at Summerslam 95. At SS 96, he "lost" the boiler room brawl to Mankind, because Paul Bearer betrayed him.
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Post by segaz on Nov 22, 2009 10:48:23 GMT -5
wow. Ok...uh..Summerslam. No....despite losing at SS 97 and 98, he beat Mankind at 95, 'himself' at 94 and Giant Gonzalez at 93. Minor corrections...Taker beat KAMA (the supreme fighting machine) at Summerslam 95. At SS 96, he "lost" the boiler room brawl to Mankind, because Paul Bearer betrayed him. oh.
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