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Post by Allison Reynolds on May 23, 2010 7:08:52 GMT -5
Thread info, for every match up: {Spoiler} (This was inspired by the fan-thread of Deadliest Warrior.)
This is fictional fights, where I set up two fictional characters against one another in a match up battle. From then on any posters here, argue or debate who would win in a fight between the two fictional characters.
NO Poll, will be given for this as this is NOT a Popularity Contest.
A poll will be given, but this is not a popularity contest. It's for who you think would win in a fight.
This can be determined in a combination in many different ways, whether that be with weapons, fighting style, strength, intelligence, skill, strategies, abilities, powers, battle tactics, or whatever you can think of. Remember to give Reasons!
I will be playing the role Deadliest Warrior "expert" "The Computer Nerd, who picks who gets the win."
I'm going into this with a clean mind, with not pre-conceived notions on who will win. I pick the winner, based on the better argument, on whichever character would win.
Alot of the times, I don't know much about these characters, or weapons, so I'm depending on the "experts" of each character to help me out, in determining who is the Deadliest Fictional Fighter!Remember you can also suggest more matchups in the future, for your own entertainment. It can be any fictional character. Here is the match up: Kratos godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/KratosWeapons.... Close Range: Blade of Artemis Spirit of Sparta Medium Range: Blades of Chaos/Athena/Exile Long Range: Bow of Apollo Special Weapons: Golden Fleece Link www.zeldawiki.org/LinkWeapons... Close Range: Master Sword Bomb Medium Range: Hookshot (both have a similar max range, but Hookshot's is longer) Long Range: Hylian Bow Special Weapons: Hylian Shield It doesn't just have to be about weapons. If you have any fight styles, or anything, be free to suggest.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on May 23, 2010 7:42:59 GMT -5
I think Link is the better character, and he most definately has the better games. That said, Kratos ability to take punishment would win him this match.
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Post by Oak: Certified Jade Hater on May 23, 2010 12:03:15 GMT -5
With Link's Hookshot being longer, I think it gives him the advantage in mid-range weapons.
All in all, I'm more familiar with Link (as I haven't played God of War, well, ever). Still, with Kratos being able to take a lot of punishment, one would have to believe Link would use his speed as his main weapon in this fight, both to attack and dodge. If Kratos were to go for the legs and connect at any moment, this could get real ugly real quick.
Hayden's Choice: Link, but just barely.
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Post by Celgress on May 23, 2010 12:47:13 GMT -5
Kratos, imho.
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Post by lionheart21 on May 23, 2010 13:04:38 GMT -5
Kratos kills Gods. Enough said.
To break it down further though:
The Golden Fleece helps out a lot since it can reflect Link's attacks (projectile and melee) right back at him. Being the general of the Spartan Army, Kratos also has the tactital advantage since he is a military genius.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on May 23, 2010 13:37:14 GMT -5
Kratos kills Gods. Enough said. To break it down further though: The Golden Fleece helps out a lot since it can reflect Link's attacks (projectile and melee) right back at him. Being the general of the Spartan Army, Kratos also has the tactital advantage since he is a military genius. Ah, but Kratos got his ass kicked by a strategy-less barbarian. Anyways, I can make a case for both guys. Kratos has no armor save for his Fleece, which only protects his right side, and he has to be pointing his right side to effectively use it, thus if Link shot any of his ranged weapons directly at Kratos, or at his left, or at his back, it'll be a kill shot. Plus Link, in comparison, has a lot of armor and a good chunk of Kratos' weapons are slashing weapons, which do jack against chainmail and Link's shield is strong enough to deflect any attack that hits it, and is big enough to make the arrows from the Bow of Apollo, flaming arrows be damned, a nonfactor. Plus the Blade of Artemis is a slow swinging weapon, leaving Kratos wide open for a beat down in close range in the sword vs. sword area. HOWEVER, Kratos' Blade of what have you can not only slash, but pierce as well, thanks you all the sharp points all over the blade, and the Army of Sparta is the ultimate defense, and while Link can block the arrows easily, he can't block the spear assault from the Spartans. And, Kratos has been to Hell and back 4 times already and killed half of Greek Mythology already.
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Post by Garee on May 23, 2010 14:19:31 GMT -5
I'm gonna have to go with the underdog here and go with Link
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Post by Cela on May 23, 2010 17:19:38 GMT -5
Kratos- Stronger, faster, and a wider varity of attacks.
so even though he is probably the biggest douchebag protagonist committed to gaming, he wins easily.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on May 24, 2010 1:50:40 GMT -5
This was a match I had dreamed of for a while(I was toying with the idea of a Deadliest Video Game Character type thing ever since I saw Animal Face-Off and Jurassic Fight Club, which are Deadliest Warrior but with animals and dinos), and as a result, I had the simulation battle planned out for a while. So, I dunno if this'll sway anyone, but this is how I imagined the battle going for both guys, one simulation will have Kratos winning, the other will have Link winning. The terrain is neutral, it is a LARGE clearing filled with hills.
Kratos Wins
Kratos and Link enter the the clearing from opposite ends, Kratos enters on the top of a large hill, Link enters in a low level bowl between hills. They see each other and Link preps his Hylian Bow and lets off a volley. Kratos blocks it with his Fleece. Kratos fires several rapid volleys of flaming arrows from his Bow of Apollo. Link blocks many of them with his Hylian Shield, but one goes over the top of the shield and hits him in the left collarbone. Link removes the arrow, which didn't penetrate much, and puts out the fire on his tunic. He breaks the remaining arrows on his shield with his Master Sword. The two start running towards each other as Link pulls out his Hookshot and Kratos takes his Blades of Chaos off his back and wraps the chains forged to his forearms around the bottoms of the hilts. Link fires off the Hookshot at maximum length, but Kratos rolls out of the way and as Link begins to retract the hook, Kratos swings one of his blades and tangles it on the Hookshot and the two begin and tug of war contest, but as Kratos pulls back with all his strength, Link discards the hook, sending Kratos tumbling back. As Kratos regains his standing, Link reloads a new hook and fires as second shot that hits Kratos on his right pectoral. Kratos wraps the hook's chain around his left arm and pulls hard, ripping the Hookshot from Link's hand. Kratos rips the hook out of his chest and begins bleeding profusely, but solders on like nothing happened. Link takes out a bomb and lights it and rolls it towards a charging Kratos who barely aims the Fleece towards the blast in time, but the force of the bomb still knocks Kratos back and sends his Blades of Chaos flying away. Kratos has also taken shrapnel damage to his legs and lower left torso. Link lights another bomb and rolls it towards the downed Spartan, when Kratos activates his Army of Sparta magic, and is surrounded by a Phalanx of the souls of dead Spartan soldiers. Their shields protect him from the bomb as a rain of magic arrows fall from the sky. Link uses the Hylian Shield to protect him from the arrows, but is caught off guard and is stabbed by the spear of one of the Spartans. Link tumbles back, holding his abdomen as he begins to bleed badly. Kratos comes out from behind the Phalanx wielding the Blade of Artemis, and Link musters the strength to draw his Master Sword and the two engage in a sword fight. Link barely manages to roll out of the way from Kratos' large swing arcs. Kratos connects a blow on Link's shield, ripping it from his arm and breaking the bones in his right forearm in the process. Kratos goes for another swing, but Link's sword begins to shine and he does a spinning slice to Kratos' stomach, causing Kratos to lower his Blade. Link turns his sword around and hits Kratos in the face with the pummel of the hilt. Kratos rolls backwards and finds his Blades of Chaos. Link turns his sword back around and walks towards Kratos as Kratos gets up and spins around, swinging one of his Blades at the same time, and decapitates Link with the quick strike. Kratos stands over Link and curses Zeus, "Can you do no better than THIS, Zeus?!" Battle over.
Link Wins
Kratos and Link enter the clearing the same way. Kratos lets off a volley of his Bow of Apollo, but none of the arrows connect as Link uses his Hylian Shield to block them. Link readies his Hylian Bow and fires a volley that hits Kratos in the left chest area. Kratos removes the arrow and snaps it in half in his hand. Kraots summons the Blade of Artemis as Link readies his Hookshot. Link has trouble readying the hook, and Kratos closes the gap fast. Link readies the hook, but Kratos is already swinging his Blade. Link rolls out of the way as Kratos' sword sticks into the ground. Link fires the hook into Kratos' right shoulder. Kratos lets go of the Blade and removes the hook from his back. Kratos readies his Blades of Chaos as Link shoots off another hook. Kratos swings his Blades and catches the hook with them as Link and Kratos both try to pull their respective weapons free. Kratos eventually rips the Hookshot from Link and chases after Link, who pulls out his Master Sword. Link runs around a bush. As Kratos follows Link, he falls into the trap, Link led him towards a lit bomb. Kratos turns and begins to run, but is caught in the concussive force of the blast, sending him and his Blades flying. His Blades land far from him, so Kratos rolls over to the Blade of Artemis and begins to remove it from the ground again. Link sneaks up behind Kratos again and Kratos uses the Army of Sparta magic to block Link's sword strike. Link rolls away far from the Phalanx and uses the shield to block the arrows. Kratos removes the Blade of Artemis from the ground and turns to Link. Kratos swings the Blade and knocks breaks away Link's shield. Link rolls behind Kratos and slashes at his legs. Kratos falls to one knee. Link goes for the deathblow, but Kratos gives Link and shoulder charge with the Golden Fleece. Kratos retrieves his Blades of Chaos and begins swinging them as Link rolls out of the way and picks up his battered shield. Link blocks one of Kratos' Blades with his shield, but Kratos pulls it back. As Link readies for an attack, Kratos throws his Blades at both of Link's collarbones, cutting through his chainmail. Kratos pulls his Blades back, ripping through Link's flesh and armor. Link falls to his knees and drops his shield and sword. As Kratos walks up to Link and readies his blades to cut off Link's head, Link grabs his Master Sword and runs Kratos through before Kratos can strike. Kratos drops his Blades, falls to his knees and falls backwards, as Link lightly kicks him a few times to make sure. Link reflects on the battle, "..." Battle over.
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Post by Cela on May 24, 2010 2:44:01 GMT -5
Damn Koda, nice!
And I just realized that in the various plotting, Kratos's Medusa head was never brought up, that would be one hell of a game changer.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on May 24, 2010 2:57:36 GMT -5
Damn Koda, nice! And I just realized that in the various plotting, Kratos's Medusa head was never brought up, that would be one hell of a game changer. As would pretty much any of his other magical items/attacks. The Blade of Artemis and Army of Sparta are the most "fair" of his magical attacks. Though Helios' Head and Hermes' Boots would've been interesting, they would've been like many of those "set up" weapons in Deadliest Warrior like the Ninja Black Eggs of the Zulu Spit of Poison. Doesn't really kill, just sets up a death blow.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on May 24, 2010 3:11:03 GMT -5
Link has much more versatility in his tools at hand compared to Kratos. If he has access to all of those then it would make things quite difficult for his opponent. Though Kratos also happens to possess some handy abilities himself.
Though barring most of those, things would probably a bit more difficult. I suspect that Link would be more difficult to read as an opponent however. While it could be quite clear to see what Kratos has on his mind, the same cannot be said of Link who tends to be pretty mute for the most part. Kratos also possesses superior muscular strength at first glance though I would suspect that Link would possess the advantage in speed. Though I also believe that Link would be much less bloodthirsty then his adversary, due in part to the fact that he has no idea who the guy is or whether he is good or evil. Link probably would not attack someone thought to be innocent. Kratos on the other hand would probably have no such qualms in my opinion, making mercy nonexistent in his case.
In a long range battle it would depend on what arrows Link was to employ. Plain arrows probably wouldn't too effective. If he has his bombs though then he could surely fire off a few of the explosive bomb arrows to whittle down his opponent's resistance. Kratos, as far as I can tell, doesn't possess such weaponry in long range form. In addition there are also the Light arrows, which, considering how dark and tortured Kratos soul would be, could be incredibly painful were they connect. Perhaps one would be enough to extinguish him. Kratos on the other hand would only possess flaming arrows at best, something that Link could easily match with either Fire arrows or counteract with Ice arrows. Needless to say, the Hyrulian would have a clear advantage in a distant battle.
Medium however is another story. Though Link possesses the hook shot, it tends to be a bit unwieldy at times and akin to more of a transportation device rather than a weapon. That's not to say it couldn't be used as such. I just don't see it working for much more than a sneak attack though or some fancy maneuvering across the battle field. Using it for a direct attack just seems to be asking for trouble. Especially with the Blades of Chaos who have the advantage of being able to come from two directions rather than one. Poor Link would be in quite a pickle were the two to meet midway.
Close range it's a bit of a toss up. Both Link and Kratos possess a few advantages over one another. Kratos' sword definitely has more size to it. The Master Sword however is lighter and can provide for much quicker slashes and swipes. Combined with Link's agility advantage and, unless Kratos employs the Spirit of Sparta, I don't see him faring too well up close and personal. Were the latter to employed, however, then I see them one a more even playing field. Link could try to rely on a bomb or two to provide a distraction, but whose to say that would work? Also considering that Kratos's soul definitely is less than pure, the Master Sword could prove even more damaging considering it's properties.
In the end I would give it to Link after a close and well fought battle.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on May 24, 2010 3:25:00 GMT -5
Link has much more versatility in his tools at hand compared to Kratos. If he has access to all of those then it would make things quite difficult for his opponent. Though Kratos also happens to possess some handy abilities himself. Though barring most of those, things would probably a bit more difficult. I suspect that Link would be more difficult to read as an opponent however. While it could be quite clear to see what Kratos has on his mind, the same cannot be said of Link who tends to be pretty mute for the most part. Kratos also possesses superior muscular strength at first glance though I would suspect that Link would possess the advantage in speed. Though I also believe that Link would be much less bloodthirsty then his adversary, due in part to the fact that he has no idea who the guy is or whether he is good or evil. Link probably would not attack someone thought to be innocent. Kratos on the other hand would probably have no such qualms in my opinion, making mercy nonexistent in his case. In a long range battle it would depend on what arrows Link was to employ. Plain arrows probably wouldn't too effective. If he has his bombs though then he could surely fire off a few of the explosive bomb arrows to whittle down his opponent's resistance. Kratos, as far as I can tell, doesn't possess such weaponry in long range form. In addition there are also the Light arrows, which, considering how dark and tortured Kratos soul would be, could be incredibly painful were they connect. Perhaps one would be enough to extinguish him. Kratos on the other hand would only possess flaming arrows at best, something that Link could easily match with either Fire arrows or counteract with Ice arrows. Needless to say, the Hyrulian would have a clear advantage in a distant battle. Medium however is another story. Though Link possesses the hook shot, it tends to be a bit unwieldy at times and akin to more of a transportation device rather than a weapon. That's not to say it couldn't be used as such. I just don't see it working for much more than a sneak attack though or some fancy maneuvering across the battle field. Using it for a direct attack just seems to be asking for trouble. Especially with the Blades of Chaos who have the advantage of being able to come from two directions rather than one. Poor Link would be in quite a pickle were the two to meet midway. Close range it's a bit of a toss up. Both Link and Kratos possess a few advantages over one another. Kratos' sword definitely has more size to it. The Master Sword however is lighter and can provide for much quicker slashes and swipes. Combined with Link's agility advantage and, unless Kratos employs the Spirit of Sparta, I don't see him faring too well up close and personal. Were the latter to employed, however, then I see them one a more even playing field. Link could try to rely on a bomb or two to provide a distraction, but whose to say that would work? Also considering that Kratos's soul definitely is less than pure, the Master Sword could prove even more damaging considering it's properties. In the end I would give it to Link after a close and well fought battle. Well if Kratos was using Typhon's Bane, he'd have Wind Arrows and the ability to summon at least F2 tornadoes. As for the hookshot, yeah, it is kinda impractical, but when I was imagining the "testing" of the weapons....yes....I seriously looked at this match like it was Deadliest Warrior(as well as Marcus Fenix vs. Master Chief, of which I also have battle simulations for), so I imagined each of these weapons "realistically" being tested, meaning for the Bow of Apollo, they had a custom made bow that had a constant fire source that would light the arrows on fire and for Army of Sparta, they just had a group of guys dressed as Spartans act out the function of it, and for the Hookshot, since the thing is a grapple hook, but pretty much a four sided pyramid as well, well, I imagine the point being sharp as hell, as well as the edges leading up to the point, so, when I imagined them testing it, it leaves a huge ass hole in a gel torso dummy, cause it is a giant hunk of metal flying into you that is capable of breaking through rock. Yeah....I got a bitching imagination.....
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Post by Bo Rida on May 24, 2010 13:33:40 GMT -5
I don't know what powers Kratos has but I'll throw in some possibilities that would allow Link to win if he's allowed access to these weapons as well as the ones listed.
1. He can control time so can just go back and kill him while he's a baby or something. 2. He can control the seasons, Kratos doesn't look dressed for a harsh winter and may suffer hypothermia as a result. 3 By wearing his magic cape he can turn invisible.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on May 25, 2010 1:10:07 GMT -5
I don't know what powers Kratos has but I'll throw in some possibilities that would allow Link to win if he's allowed access to these weapons as well as the ones listed. 1. He can control time so can just go back and kill him while he's a baby or something. 2. He can control the seasons, Kratos doesn't look dressed for a harsh winter and may suffer hypothermia as a result. 3 By wearing his magic cape he can turn invisible. Kratos is a demigod, so weather means jack to him. Plus, in God of War 2, he went to the Sisters of Fate, basically the highest ranking deities of Greek mythos, cause even the Greek Gods bowed to them, and "forced" them to change his fate.
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Post by Cela on May 26, 2010 0:16:54 GMT -5
I don't know what powers Kratos has but I'll throw in some possibilities that would allow Link to win if he's allowed access to these weapons as well as the ones listed. 1. He can control time so can just go back and kill him while he's a baby or something. 2. He can control the seasons, Kratos doesn't look dressed for a harsh winter and may suffer hypothermia as a result. 3 By wearing his magic cape he can turn invisible. Kratos is a demigod, so weather means jack to him. Plus, in God of War 2, he went to the Sisters of Fate, basically the highest ranking deities of Greek mythos, cause even the Greek Gods bowed to them, and "forced" them to change his fate. And Kratos gained the ability to go back in time thanks to beating them. As for the climate, he has kept the same outfit while in Typhon's frozen mountain and the lavapits. He'd be fine. Another added benefit of Kratos you could add, he doesn't stay dead. Sure, Link could win a fight, but Kratos has escaped from the underworld in every damn game, he'd crawl out of a hole and stick a blade of Artemis straight through the elf.
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