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Post by The Booty Disciple on Feb 28, 2010 15:25:17 GMT -5
Not because I'm a bar fighter or a Street Fighting Man (tm Rolling Stones), but here...lemme explain.
I'm sitting at the joint I used to be head doorman/bouncer at, and my right hand guy, who is back in town doing another round at our local vo-tech school, has to run to the back to do something or other.
Meanwhile, the other guy at the door is kinda new, but doesn't really know how to deal with obnoxious drunks because he's just never had the problem (bar business has slowed way down here in Laramie for some reason, at all bars).
So these two guys come in, obviously, at least from how I look at stuff, wanting to start some trouble. My buddy is in the back, the new guy who I know but wouldn't call a friend, is at the door, and the manager/bartender is busy with customers. I happen to look over and see the newer guy thrown against the wall, and the manager (who is also one of my best friends) is on his way out from around the bar, and I'm on my way to the door as well to back this kid up.
Get there, and...well, you guys remember those silly animated captions during a fight scene in the 1960s Batman series? Yeah...that's about what I felt. The guy hauls off, and absolutely clocks me. The manager, a bigger guy, tackles him and starts dragging him out, but my nose is bleeding and my lip is cut to shit. I immediately bark at the nearest off-the-clock employee to get a bleach towel (this is still a restaurant during the day) because I'm bleeding everywhere, and things absolutely must stay sterile and cleanly in a restaurant.
The owner was there inside of ten minutes, and the two guys had already taken off, and the police were there a couple minutes before. It was impressive, because I'm trying to help clean up my blood, but still bleeding when the police gets there.
I told them I didn't want to press charges (I'm sure if they find these guys, they'll have breach of the peace to deal with, at the very least), but if they came back, after I quit bleeding, I'd kick their asses. Not something I'd normally say, for certain since I abhor violence, but when you've had a few, and you're pissed, sometimes obnoxious comments are on the docket.
Thank god they have new security cameras installed about 8 months ago (infrared, so they show stuff like the night setting on most modern video cameras) and it has a clear view of the door, because I imagine that at some point, presuming they catch these guys (and we had their names because they'd just been ID'ed at the door), I might have to make a small appearance in court, and evidence, both from witnesses and from the camera, will be on my side.
My lip hurts like hell today, though. BIG gash on the inside of it.
Oh well, I guess. Shit happens when ya party naked.
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Post by nate5054 on Feb 28, 2010 15:27:36 GMT -5
And alcohol is the legal drug ladies and gents. Because of the calming influence it provides, I wager.
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Post by The Booty Disciple on Feb 28, 2010 15:34:44 GMT -5
Sorry, I suppose I should clarify. Technically, at least as far as the government is concerned, I'm still on their payroll, because they give me $10 (just a discount, usually) on Saturdays because one of their house DJ's is using my amp.
That'll certainly help in court, if it comes to that. A customer running up, even if these guys are way out of line, would be bad. Bad, mmmkay? But an employee is a whole different thing, at least insofar as the law is concerned.
It was pretty impressive, though. One gal there that I know is a professor in the law school, and she immediately started taking notes and documenting EVERYTHING. That might prove helpful too.
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Post by Chainsaw on Feb 28, 2010 15:40:57 GMT -5
And alcohol is the legal drug ladies and gents. Because of the calming influence it provides, I wager. Seriously. |
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Feb 28, 2010 16:38:34 GMT -5
And alcohol is the legal drug ladies and gents. Because of the calming influence it provides, I wager. I get drunk off my ass and cause no trouble for anyone....except myself when I puke. Don't blame alcohol, blame assholes. |
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Post by kickassJP on Feb 28, 2010 17:36:30 GMT -5
And alcohol is the legal drug ladies and gents. Because of the calming influence it provides, I wager. I get drunk off my ass and cause no trouble for anyone....except myself when I puke. Don't blame alcohol, blame assholes. Exactly. It's not the alcohol that causes the problem, it's the jerks who act upon it and abuse it. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2010 17:40:38 GMT -5
And alcohol is the legal drug ladies and gents. Because of the calming influence it provides, I wager. Lets try not to get threads locked please. |
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Post by Mr T L Wolf on Feb 28, 2010 17:46:20 GMT -5
Don't forget to get a photo of your wounds as documentation.
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Post by default on Feb 28, 2010 17:52:38 GMT -5
If that were me, I'd be calling for an amber lamps.
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Post by Janitor From Mars on Feb 28, 2010 20:01:44 GMT -5
And alcohol is the legal drug ladies and gents. Because of the calming influence it provides, I wager. What does this have to do with Booty Disciple's otherwise rad story? It's certainly not a situation I want to be in but it's a good thing he's alright. |
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Feb 28, 2010 20:10:06 GMT -5
If that were me, I'd be calling for an amber lamps. I guess we should ask if the offender in question is an old, bearded war veteran.  |
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Post by charlesmc206 on Feb 28, 2010 20:10:32 GMT -5
And alcohol is the legal drug ladies and gents. Because of the calming influence it provides, I wager. It's funny how that works. |
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Feb 28, 2010 20:10:47 GMT -5
How many Marines were involved?
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Post by The Booty Disciple on Feb 28, 2010 20:31:03 GMT -5
Agreed with the remarks that alcohol isn't the issue. I'm not advocating drinking, whatever your personal preferences may be, but in moderation and with responsible consumption, it doesn't HAVE to be an issue. Like others have said, the issue wasn't with the fact that these guys were drunk, but rather, that these guys were being obnoxious and rowdy and though that brawn would get them further than it did.
I can't even really state that these guys had been drinking when they caused trouble. They might just have been dickheads to begin with. Alcohol, in that case, may have exacerbated the issue, but it certainly wasn't the entire issue.
I won't lie, I hate fighting. No one EVER wins a fight, but when I see the kid getting thrown against a wall, and the experienced bouncer is away from the door, I jumped in to help him out, and wound up eating a fist for it.
Thankfully, the owner gave his blessing when he got down there (we still know each other quite well, particularly given the amount of business I give him both via bar hours and when I stop in for lunch), and thanked me for helping out. The whole thing is on tape (or should be, presuming the camera didn't crap out for some random reason), and yes, I did grab the digital (after the suggestion here in the thread) and got some pictures of my wounds.
Thanks for the support guys. Thought you might get a kick out of it, though it's hardly a "rad story" when your lip is beat up and sore. I'll live though, but I still advocate trying to find another solution rather than fighting.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2010 20:41:55 GMT -5
How many Marines were involved? hilarious that HBK story never gets old for me |
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Post by The Booty Disciple on Feb 28, 2010 20:42:58 GMT -5
How many Marines were involved? hilarious that HBK story never gets old for me Me either, but I'm hardly as athletic as HBK, and I don't think these guys were Marines, just ass-hats. |
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Post by The Booty Disciple on Mar 2, 2010 0:17:03 GMT -5
So a quick update...
Got a call from the police while I was at work. Evidently they found these guys, and wanted to make sure I didn't want to press charges. I told them I'd confer with the staff and owner at the place this happened first, since I can hardly afford legal representation right now (even though I know that usually, legal fees are included in the damages).
Meanwhile, the wound on my lip has turned into one giant canker sore. How fun. It hurts. It hurts BAD. Add that to my fat lip and my nose being tender from the shot to the face, and this could be an interesting week, given my dad is going to be in town and wants to grab lunch on Wednesday, and I'm not sure what I'll be able to eat.
Meh. One of those situations that even though I'd let it go, it looks like it's gonna pester me for a bit longer. Oh well. Live, learn, and go forward.
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Post by Orange on Mar 2, 2010 3:04:52 GMT -5
So a quick update... Got a call from the police while I was at work. Evidently they found these guys, and wanted to make sure I didn't want to press charges. I told them I'd confer with the staff and owner at the place this happened first, since I can hardly afford legal representation right now (even though I know that usually, legal fees are included in the damages). Meanwhile, the wound on my lip has turned into one giant canker sore. How fun. It hurts. It hurts BAD. Add that to my fat lip and my nose being tender from the shot to the face, and this could be an interesting week, given my dad is going to be in town and wants to grab lunch on Wednesday, and I'm not sure what I'll be able to eat. Meh. One of those situations that even though I'd let it go, it looks like it's gonna pester me for a bit longer. Oh well. Live, learn, and go forward. I'm not a fan of fighting either, but it sounds like you did the reasonable and right thing in this situation. Had you not of stepped in they probably would have roughed him up, so at least you tried to intervene and more or less got them thrown out of there. However seeing as it did mess you up I personally would press charges, an a**hole is an a**hole and if they hurt you you should press charges, however I can see why you may not want to. |
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Post by The Booty Disciple on Mar 2, 2010 3:32:01 GMT -5
Big issue for me is having to go to court about it. I don't want to take time off of work, and if they get nailed with breach of the peace, simple battery, assault, etc, I'll have a cute call from the DA anyway, and have to make an appearance.
Given that I'm trying to rebuild my savings, sometimes being a little more Zen about things is a better idea. Money is hard to come by these days, and, even though my boss is aware of the situation, I still don't want to take time off if I can avoid it. It's not just the appearance, because there is NO way in hell I'd show up in a courtroom in jeans and a t-shirt. I'd be in a suit and tie, and that takes at least a little time to get together. So, let's do the math...
Half hour to get ready costs me half a hour of pay...
An hour wait before we even get to the bench costs me another...
Meetings with an attorney cost me more...
Yeah. If your savings get wiped out during the winter, you want all the hours you can get, at least if you're an hourly worker like me.
It isn't like these buttheads don't have plenty to answer for anyway. I grew up in the honky-tonk, so to speak. Doesn't make me like it any more, but, like I said, shit happens. They'll either learn or have another mistake.
I really, in all honesty, hope they learn from it, and I'm more worried about the other guy (the one thrown up against the wall) than me. He has far more reason to press charges than me. Dunno what his situation is, but I'm meeting everyone tomorrow, so I guess we'll hash it out then.
Next course of action? I dunno...don't want to mess anyone's future up, but, ya know, ya gotta learn consequences, right?
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Post by Grendel on Mar 2, 2010 7:23:23 GMT -5
I hate when stuff like that happens. These damn people think they have to be all tough and throw punches at anyone. Hope you heal up good and these bastards get everything they deserve.
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