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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Feb 24, 2010 7:23:58 GMT -5
HGH isn't the same as illegal steroids though, are they even illegal? HGH is legal through prescription with a diagnosed medical condition like stunted growth. The most popular guy in the lockerroom...Hornswoggle
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2010 7:26:16 GMT -5
HGH is legal through prescription with a diagnosed medical condition like stunted growth. The most popular guy in the lockerroom...Hornswoggle Dude has a tattoo of Statler and Waldorf. He was already the most popular guy in the locker room.
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Post by randomranter on Feb 24, 2010 7:55:18 GMT -5
Except for all the other wrestlers who have to destroy their bodies to keep up with you. They dont have to, they choose to. It's not really much of a choice when making the "wrong" choice is a virtual death knell to your career. This is the WWE, where Vince has always chosen freakishly large hosses over talented wrestlers. If you're unwilling to try to keep up with them, you stand a good chance of floundering in the midcard, making significantly less money, or outright get released. That all being said, my belief still stands -- top talent will never be suspended for wellness issues. Whether they simply don't get tested, or the results are either swept under the rug or ignored altogether is irrelevant -- you will never see people like Cena, HHH, Batista, Taker, etc. be suspended for wellness issues even if they are on the juice. These guys are top money draws, and there's no way Vince is going to lose them for 30 days, permanently tarnish their reputations, and potentially permanently damage their drawing power by subjecting them to wellness. Vince would first take the small, temporary hit from the mainstream press before he allows that to happen.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2010 7:59:59 GMT -5
They dont have to, they choose to. It's not really much of a choice when making the "wrong" choice is a virtual death knell to your career. This is the WWE, where Vince has always chosen freakishly large hosses over talented wrestlers. If you're unwilling to try to keep up with them, you stand a good chance of floundering in the midcard, making significantly less money, or outright get released. That all being said, my belief still stands -- top talent will never be suspended for wellness issues. Whether they simply don't get tested, or the results are either swept under the rug or ignored altogether is irrelevant -- you will never see people like Cena, HHH, Batista, Taker, etc. be suspended for wellness issues even if they are on the juice. These guys are top money draws, and there's no way Vince is going to lose them for 30 days, permanently tarnish their reputations, and potentially permanently damage their drawing power by subjecting them to wellness. Vince would first take the small, temporary hit from the mainstream press before he allows that to happen.
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Post by Marvelously Mediocre on Feb 24, 2010 8:13:05 GMT -5
They dont have to, they choose to. It's not really much of a choice when making the "wrong" choice is a virtual death knell to your career. This is the WWE, where Vince has always chosen freakishly large hosses over talented wrestlers. If you're unwilling to try to keep up with them, you stand a good chance of floundering in the midcard, making significantly less money, or outright get released. That all being said, my belief still stands -- top talent will never be suspended for wellness issues. Whether they simply don't get tested, or the results are either swept under the rug or ignored altogether is irrelevant -- you will never see people like Cena, HHH, Batista, Taker, etc. be suspended for wellness issues even if they are on the juice. These guys are top money draws, and there's no way Vince is going to lose them for 30 days, permanently tarnish their reputations, and potentially permanently damage their drawing power by subjecting them to wellness. Vince would first take the small, temporary hit from the mainstream press before he allows that to happen. I'm sure this years Wrestlemania main eventers Edge and Chris Jericho are heartbroken at this news. I could name like 20 world champions in the last few decades who dont fit the mould of huge and 'roided' like Vince apparently goes for. That might've been true in the 80s but not anymore. Taking steroids gets you a main event spot easier? maybe. But maybe we should blame the wrestlers and not the 'evil boss who forces roids on them.' CM Punk hasnt ever taken steroids and is one of the most successful new guys of the last decade.
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Post by Legion on Feb 24, 2010 8:16:33 GMT -5
Got it one folks.
it's easy to blame Vince, cos that's the traditional stance, but the truth is, this isn't the 80's and if a guy takes steroids or whatever else, it's his own fault, not Vince and co. as there is pleanty of evidence to prove that the big roid guys don't get the same treatement they may have gotten back then.
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Post by randomranter on Feb 24, 2010 8:33:45 GMT -5
It's not really much of a choice when making the "wrong" choice is a virtual death knell to your career. This is the WWE, where Vince has always chosen freakishly large hosses over talented wrestlers. If you're unwilling to try to keep up with them, you stand a good chance of floundering in the midcard, making significantly less money, or outright get released. That all being said, my belief still stands -- top talent will never be suspended for wellness issues. Whether they simply don't get tested, or the results are either swept under the rug or ignored altogether is irrelevant -- you will never see people like Cena, HHH, Batista, Taker, etc. be suspended for wellness issues even if they are on the juice. These guys are top money draws, and there's no way Vince is going to lose them for 30 days, permanently tarnish their reputations, and potentially permanently damage their drawing power by subjecting them to wellness. Vince would first take the small, temporary hit from the mainstream press before he allows that to happen. Pics of Orton, Booker T, and Rey Mysterio snipped. Booker T may be an IWC favorite, but he's never drawn a dime. Randy Orton was not a money draw at the time of his issues. The only one that validates your argument is Rey Mysterio. And even then, he's out for injuries so often that most people probably didn't even know he was gone. I'm sure this years Wrestlemania main eventers Edge and Chris Jericho are heartbroken at this news. And I'm willing to bet that their match will be before Cena/Batista. And how many of them had serious pushes vs. forgettable reigns? HBK and Bret are good examples that would support your side. But CM Punk's reigns have been short, forgettable, and largely transitional. Rey's reign was horribly booked. Benoit's reign was forgettable and treated by WWE as an afterthought. Hardy barely held onto the belt long enough for a cup of coffee. Now look at the reigns of HHH, Taker, Batista, and Cena. Many more reigns, much more memorable. Heck, if you want to go back further, even Kevin Nash held the title for damn near a year. So yeah, smaller guys might get the belt, but it's more likely that those runs will be forgettable while bigger guys are more likely to get more worthwhile runs. And yes, I know there are exceptions to the rule on both sides, but if you look at the overall trends since the Hogan era, bigger (and possibly roided-up) guys get more memorable runs, while smaller ones are either transitional or treated as afterthoughts. If the 'evil boss' is rewarding the roided up freaks by giving them main event spots, title runs, and bigger paychecks, then he is to blame. If the bigger guys are getting all the main spots and are making the bigger paychecks, the choices are (a) Get bigger, most likely with help from HGH/Roids, or (b) accept the fact that you'll be making far less money and are much less likely to be considered as a serious main event player. CM Punk has had a spattering of largely forgettable title reigns, and has largely been relegated to the mid- and upper-mid card. Batista has had several reigns with the belt and is almost always in the main event scene. Same with Cena. Same with 'Taker. Same with HHH. CM Punk will be in a filler match this year. Batista is champ and will be in the main event. His opponent? Cena. Taker will be in one of the marquee matches as well. HHH/Sheamus is a very likely possibility, and I will bet my paycheck that it will get more heavily pushed than CM Punk's match. So while I'll agree with you that CM Punk has been successful (and is very, very over right now), he is still nowhere near the level as the big and/or roided up guys are.
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Post by capnsteve on Feb 25, 2010 4:56:51 GMT -5
Except for all the other wrestlers who have to destroy their bodies to keep up with you. They dont have to, they choose to. Uh huh. And when I get robbed, I'm choosing to give the guy my money. He may have influenced my decision slightly, though.
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Post by krazykarl77 on Feb 25, 2010 5:53:23 GMT -5
Regular application of extra GH may show several negative side-effects such as joint swelling, joint pain, carpal tunnel syndrome, and an increased risk of diabetes.[25] Other side effects can include less sleep needed after dosing. This is common initially and decreases in effect after habitual use of GH.
taken from wiki so use some salt
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Feb 25, 2010 16:04:03 GMT -5
[quote author=randomranter board=WWE thread=268959 post=5634624 time=1267018425HBK and Bret are good examples that would support your side. [/quote]
You forgot two big ones for that side:
Steve Austin The Rock
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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 25, 2010 16:17:48 GMT -5
[quote author=randomranter board=WWE thread=268959 post=5634624 time=1267018425HBK and Bret are good examples that would support your side. You forgot two big ones for that side: Steve Austin The Rock[/quote] Are you actually assuming that Austin and Rock weren't on anything? The late 90's were just about as bad regarding drugs as the 80's, guys.
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