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Post by Jason on Feb 9, 2010 0:23:42 GMT -5
This is what I don't get, when he says this. Straight Edge people tend not to drink, smoke or take drugs, right? CM Punk apparently has done none of this, so how does that make him better? I think it makes more sense that you overcame the addiction that makes you better than the people who didn't, rather than absolutely avoiding it. So by that logic, Luke Gallows and Serena are better than us, CM Punk is not.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2010 0:24:23 GMT -5
CM Punk is better because he resisted the urge in the first place.
For the recovering thing, think of it like this. The struggle with drugs is a game of Killer Instinct - if drugs win both rounds, they ultimately control you. If they win one round but you win the other two, then you gave in and ultimately fought back. If you win both rounds, you kicked drugs' asses.
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Post by James McCloud IS John Godot on Feb 9, 2010 0:25:57 GMT -5
Heel CM Punk is a egotistical hypocrite? Shock!
Or, from another perspective; Punk is better because he didn't have the lousy willpower, self esteem issues and general uselessness that makes one dependent on drugs and alcohol and did not need to be dragged out of the cesspool that is modern decadent life by someone else. From his point of view, of course.
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Post by The Tank on Feb 9, 2010 0:27:21 GMT -5
He should at least start saying We instead of I.
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Post by Jason on Feb 9, 2010 0:27:33 GMT -5
Heel CM Punk is a egotistical hypocrite? Shock! Or, from another perspective; Punk is better because he didn't have the lousy willpower, self esteem issues and general uselessness that makes one dependent on drugs and alcohol and did not need to be dragged out of the cesspool that is modern decadent life by someone else. From his point of view, of course. Never thought of it like that. I get where he's coming from now. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 9, 2010 0:28:10 GMT -5
He got into it a little more in the indies, using Raven and his own father as fallen rolemodels, and his own vigilance of never repeating their mistakes as reasons he's just cut from a higher cloth than the ne'erdowells. I could be mistaken, though, haven't watched his promos in a long time.
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Post by Clarence "Showstealer" Mason on Feb 9, 2010 0:31:44 GMT -5
He got into it a little more in the indies, using Raven and his own father as fallen rolemodels, and his own vigilance of never repeating their mistakes as reasons he's just cut from a higher cloth than the ne'erdowells. I could be mistaken, though, haven't watched his promos in a long time. Unfortunately they've taken down the Wrestlerave one (THIS IS STRAIGHT EDGE!). I might have to create a duplicate account and re-up it as I do have it |
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Post by Krimzon on Feb 9, 2010 0:33:13 GMT -5
The day Punk cuts that promo about his father in the WWE, people are going to be lining up in droves to be saved by him. That promo's a powerful one.
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Post by skiller on Feb 9, 2010 0:33:23 GMT -5
He's never sucommed to the pressures of society and so on to drink or take drugs. I'd say that makes him very strong willed.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Feb 9, 2010 0:40:15 GMT -5
Unfortunately they've taken down the Wrestlerave one (THIS IS STRAIGHT EDGE!). I might have to create a duplicate account and re-up it as I do have it That is honestly one of the best promos ever. Honest to God's truth, I get chills watching it everytime. Lucy may be the only bad thing about it, as much as it pains me to say. |
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Post by Clarence "Showstealer" Mason on Feb 9, 2010 1:05:16 GMT -5
Unfortunately they've taken down the Wrestlerave one (THIS IS STRAIGHT EDGE!). I might have to create a duplicate account and re-up it as I do have it That is honestly one of the best promos ever. Honest to God's truth, I get chills watching it everytime. Lucy may be the only bad thing about it, as much as it pains me to say. - I care nothing for my DM account |
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Post by vivix on Feb 9, 2010 1:47:58 GMT -5
It makes him better because he was never tempted he never gave in tot he evils that you poor poor fools did. Accept and follow him, trust in Punk he will help you find the straightedge light!
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Post by Snowman on Feb 9, 2010 7:57:04 GMT -5
What on earth is an "Old Style" that his father used to take into the shower? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2010 8:05:27 GMT -5
This is what I don't get, when he says this. Straight Edge people tend not to drink, smoke or take drugs, right? CM Punk apparently has done none of this, so how does that make him better? I think it makes more sense that you overcame the addiction that makes you better than the people who didn't, rather than absolutely avoiding it. So by that logic, Luke Gallows and Serena are better than us, CM Punk is not. Thoughts/ So, you think that becoming an addict and overcoming it makes you a stronger person than someone who wasn't weak-willed enough to become an addict in the first place? I quit smoking two years ago, and I still crave cigarettes sometimes. The fact that I am strong willed enough to have not given in to the urge makes me strong, sure. However, I wish I would have simply not started smoking to begin with. |
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Post by Clarence "Showstealer" Mason on Feb 9, 2010 8:21:22 GMT -5
What on earth is an "Old Style" that his father used to take into the shower?  |
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Post by Yami Daimao on Feb 9, 2010 14:33:23 GMT -5
Punk's better than us whether he's Straight Edge or not, so it doesn't really matter.
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Post by Houdini of Hardcore on Feb 9, 2010 15:24:30 GMT -5
He should have done this promo on Jeff Hardy. |
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Post by Big L on Feb 9, 2010 15:29:55 GMT -5
CM Punk is better because he resisted the urge in the first place. For the recovering thing, think of it like this. The struggle with drugs is a game of Killer Instinct - if drugs win both rounds, they ultimately control you. If they win one round but you win the other two, then you gave in and ultimately fought back. If you win both rounds, you kicked drugs' asses. What this guy said |
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