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Post by andrew8798 on Feb 24, 2010 20:02:06 GMT -5
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Feb 24, 2010 20:06:07 GMT -5
The Man of Steel?
Great......trying to ride the success of The Dark Knight, aren't ya, WB?
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Post by jobsquad on Feb 24, 2010 20:10:47 GMT -5
Yes...YES...YES!!!
That is all.
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Post by Legion on Feb 24, 2010 20:14:05 GMT -5
Always Luthor....... Still, be interesting to see how they go, Superman never struck me as a dark character, yet dark sales more, so if they go that path, yeah, interesting. Interesting to see who they cast as well. I liked Routh, I actually think he did really well at capturing the essence of what Reeve brought to the role. Interesting to see if they go for a 'tween Superman as well.....
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Post by Blindkarevik on Feb 24, 2010 20:40:06 GMT -5
Yes but will he be fighting a giant spider in the third act?
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Feb 24, 2010 20:46:51 GMT -5
I love that they're going with the John Byrne "Man of Steel" Superman template. That's always been my favorite. It'll be nice to step away from the silver age in a Superman movie.
I'm also glad that Lex Luthor is being kept in. I get so sick and tired of seeing people say that he shouldn't be in every Superman movie. The modern age Lex Luthor owned half of Metropolis and his presence was everywhere. He's not a villain who should come in specifically for one story. He's a supporting character.
Also, about damn time with Braniac. He's the perfect villain for a reboot.
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Post by Jason Todd Grisham on Feb 24, 2010 20:58:59 GMT -5
Yes but will he be fighting a giant spider in the third act? If this film doesn't have a giant spider in the third act, polar bear wrestling, and a gay robot, I riot.
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Post by Cela on Feb 24, 2010 21:12:04 GMT -5
Luthor... sigh. They did Batman movies without Joker, good movies!
But Braniac! YEAH!!!!!!
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Feb 24, 2010 21:21:52 GMT -5
I don't mind Luthor being in the movie at all. IMO he should always be in the movies in some capacity much like Magneto is in the X-Men movies. However, I am very glad to see that he won't be THE villain anymore. It's Luthor being the only villain that's getting old, not Luthor himself.
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Post by Jason Todd Grisham on Feb 24, 2010 21:30:14 GMT -5
What is the John Byrne incarnation, and what's so modern, believable, and fun about it?
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Feb 24, 2010 21:33:36 GMT -5
As long as it's not the "prophecy" mythology that JJ Abrams wanted to incorporate, I'm satisfied.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Feb 24, 2010 21:56:03 GMT -5
What is the John Byrne incarnation, and what's so modern, believable, and fun about it? John Byrne wrote the Superman miniseries called "Man of Steel". It was the rebooting of Superman after DC Comics laid the Silver Age to rest. He got rid of a good deal of the silly elements in Superman's mythos, and most notably changed Lex Luthor from mad scientist supervillain into the morally ambiguous businessman who basically runs Metropolis. If you've ever seen the Superman animated series from the 90's, that's basically the kind of Superman that Byrne is responsible for.
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Post by kickassJP on Feb 26, 2010 22:01:15 GMT -5
I saw this on superherohype. I hope it's true.
Seems like the Nolans are the go to guys for DC.
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Post by Grendel on Feb 26, 2010 22:03:42 GMT -5
What is the John Byrne incarnation, and what's so modern, believable, and fun about it? John Byrne wrote the Superman miniseries called "Man of Steel". It was the rebooting of Superman after DC Comics laid the Silver Age to rest. He got rid of a good deal of the silly elements in Superman's mythos, and most notably changed Lex Luthor from mad scientist supervillain into the morally ambiguous businessman who basically runs Metropolis. If you've ever seen the Superman animated series from the 90's, that's basically the kind of Superman that Byrne is responsible for. Cool. That would rock if done correctly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2010 22:05:58 GMT -5
I hope it leaves out, or at least doesn't mention, that stupid Kryptonian shield thing.
As for this not being an origin story - good. What would be the point? Sure, plenty of folks had screwed up visions of Batman's origin thanks to the Burton movie and there was a lot one could do with it, but everyone knows the story behind Superman.
Also - Braniac better fight a polar bear. How else can this movie succeed?
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Post by jobsquad on Feb 26, 2010 22:16:56 GMT -5
But which brainiac? The 'Bottle of Kandor" version? The 'computer program from Krypton' version? or some sort of B13 virus?
I hope it spawns a sequel featuring DOOMSDAY. Have the last shot be of him hitting the container to get out, and finally breaking free.
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Feb 26, 2010 22:22:19 GMT -5
YES! Byrne's version of Superman, which was subsequently used for the next twenty years or so, is the only version I really enjoy and the only one that ever made sense to me. Clark Kent is the real man, Superman is the fabrication. Lex Luthor is less a supervillain and more a flawed man who's ego prevents him from using his wealth for good. Krypton isn't a lost paradise, but a cold, shut-off dystopia. There was never a Superboy and Clark's powers didn't fully develop until his late teenage years.
Ironically, DC just junked this version to essentially bring back the Silver Age version and all of its silly trappings. It seems the pendulum always swings back the other way. I've been waiting to see a movie based on this Superman since I was a kid (never really dug the Donner films, save for Christopher Reeve's performance), and after the soulless, clone-of-a-clone that was Superman Returns, this should really get the property back on track. Seriously, as much as Batman Begins owes to Frank Miller's Year One, Man Of Steel has been what's needed to jump start Superman.
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Post by jobsquad on Feb 26, 2010 22:48:11 GMT -5
YES! Byrne's version of Superman, which was subsequently used for the next twenty years or so, is the only version I really enjoy and the only one that ever made sense to me. Clark Kent is the real man, Superman is the fabrication. Lex Luthor is less a supervillain and more a flawed man who's ego prevents him from using his wealth for good. Krypton isn't a lost paradise, but a cold, shut-off dystopia. There was never a Superboy and Clark's powers didn't fully develop until his late teenage years. Ironically, DC just junked this version to essentially bring back the Silver Age version and all of its silly trappings. It seems the pendulum always swings back the other way. I've been waiting to see a movie based on this Superman since I was a kid (never really dug the Donner films, save for Christopher Reeve's performance), and after the soulless, clone-of-a-clone that was Superman Returns, this should really get the property back on track. Seriously, as much as Batman Begins owes to Frank Miller's Year One, Man Of Steel has been what's needed to jump start Superman. The Byrne version is my favorite too, but I always disagreed with the Clark thing. Sure, Clark is who he is, but I am sure he would want the best of both worlds, you know, Clark sans glasses and with super powers.
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Feb 26, 2010 23:12:02 GMT -5
I always thought of that as an extrapolation from the Donner films, where Superman seemed to purposely play the part of the boy scout, who was then grafted onto the Clark Kent from the George Reeves version: a confident ball-busting journalist.
Nevertheless, I'm glad this means we won't be seeing more meek and mild Clark Kent on the big screen.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Feb 27, 2010 4:36:52 GMT -5
I always thought of that as an extrapolation from the Donner films, where Superman seemed to purposely play the part of the boy scout, who was then grafted onto the Clark Kent from the George Reeves version: a confident ball-busting journalist. Nevertheless, I'm glad this means we won't be seeing more meek and mild Clark Kent on the big screen. Seconded. As you said in your other post, the Byrne Superman is basically the Superman that we've all known for the past 25 years or so. That's the Superman I've been wanting to see on the big screen for years. Just the idea of having something close to a live-action version of what we got in Superman: The Animated Series has me excited. That show captured Superman better than any other movie, TV series, or cartoon ever had before.
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