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Post by Mister Pigwell on Apr 2, 2010 14:18:22 GMT -5
Do You Believe In Bigfoot? No, but I do believe in this guy: ![](http://www.forkparty.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/flying-spaghetti-monster.jpg) Noodley appendages!
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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Apr 2, 2010 14:25:30 GMT -5
All we have in terms of evidence supporting the existence of a Bigfoot type monster is footprints, blurry/grainy video, and unknown audio. What we haven't found in the realm of evidence of existence are things like droppings, bones, living areas, things like that. Yes, we haven't searched every inch of this planet, but we have satellites pointed in every direction that can read your license plate. The possibility of a Bigfoot escaping notice for this long is very small. That's true about the video, but there are quite a bit of non-blurry videos out there (like the most famous one from 1967). I think it's possible there is something out there escaping our eyes, considering we are finding new animals and species that we never knew about every day. Yeah, but the vast majority of those are under water, or in jungles, and the ones in jungles are usually insects.
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Post by alacrity on Apr 2, 2010 17:58:24 GMT -5
It's really impossible to know for sure. Someone made the point earlier that every square inch of earth has yet to be investigated and the fact there have been so many sightings, photographs out there that at least a few have a strong possiblity of being credible. Then you can also say we've come so far in technology that we wouldve caught one by now. I'd love to fully believe that there is a bigfoot out there but.......I dont know.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Apr 2, 2010 18:50:20 GMT -5
I've seen Big Foot in person. ![](http://i44.tinypic.com/2djvud5.jpg) Damn, I envy you.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 2, 2010 18:53:50 GMT -5
The fact that not a single piece of credible scientific evidence has EVER turned up. And the fact that the total number of these things would have to be in the thousands, if not hundred of thousands, in order for every story to be true (the land distance and spread of the sightings is HUGE). I've gotta go with no. SOMETHING other than footprint casts and shady videos/pictures. But alas, nothing as EVER been found. I agree. However, I just have to go with "I don't know". I don't. The default position is disbelief however and I must see evidence to prove the contrary. So the answer is no, but I don't know. You know? I'm with ya both. I used to be hardcore on the 'sure it does' side of the fence; till say a decade or so ago, when I came to the conclusions you both did about ZERO actual verifiable evidence. It'd be cool to consider, and there MIGHT be; but I def. lean toward no. Also like Gotch mentioned, the recurring stories and myths may be about a creature that USED to exist, that has since long since vanished, yet the mythic tales remain and have changed to fit the audience over the years.
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Apr 2, 2010 19:17:07 GMT -5
I agree. However, I just have to go with "I don't know". I don't. The default position is disbelief however and I must see evidence to prove the contrary. So the answer is no, but I don't know. You know? I'm with ya both. I used to be hardcore on the 'sure it does' side of the fence; till say a decade or so ago, when I came to the conclusions you both did about ZERO actual verifiable evidence. It'd be cool to consider, and there MIGHT be; but I def. lean toward no. Also like Gotch mentioned, the recurring stories and myths may be about a creature that USED to exist, that has since long since vanished, yet the mythic tales remain and have changed to fit the audience over the years. It could be something that used to exist, but bear in mind that - personal stance on evolution aside - animals evolve over time. (I don't want to turn this into a debate that will get the thread shut down, so I'll keep it simple and agreed-on'able.) Certain traits and features change in order for the animal to adapt to climate or predators or other outside factors. Perhaps the Thing That Became Bigfoot was merely some other sort of primate that evolved over time to walk completely upright, etc.? Personally, I'm in the "I'd like to believe, but I'm not sure" category, but I think my above statement is something to think about, eh?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 2, 2010 19:23:17 GMT -5
Also a good theory/twist on things. Though I still think the evolved creature would leave behind at least an occasional actual bone, corpse, etc.
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Apr 2, 2010 20:00:16 GMT -5
Also a good theory/twist on things. Though I still think the evolved creature would leave behind at least an occasional actual bone, corpse, etc. And that's where you trump my theory. We haven't found bones or dead bodies, so we can't be sure otherwise. *shrug*
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Post by Orange on Apr 2, 2010 22:00:35 GMT -5
Also a good theory/twist on things. Though I still think the evolved creature would leave behind at least an occasional actual bone, corpse, etc. And that's where you trump my theory. We haven't found bones or dead bodies, so we can't be sure otherwise. *shrug* Yeah the no bones or bodies does throw a possible wrench in their existence, however I have heard one theory that tries to explain why there is no physical evidence. Keep in mind I'm not saying I believe in this theory, but I've heard it tossed around before. The theory is that the Bigfoot (or Bigfeet for plural ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) ) bury each other's bodies or skeletons. Like I said I'm skeptical to that theory myself, but it's out there.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 2, 2010 22:02:52 GMT -5
Now THAT would be intriguing as it would suggest a quite intelligent, societal creature. Dunno how likely it'd be, but it's interesting.
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Apr 2, 2010 22:06:26 GMT -5
I think it's a mystery. I think it's clear that some of the witnesses are sincere in their reported sightings, but the question is, what did they see? I suppose a species of intelligent primate could have spend hundreds of thousands of years hiding from humans, and have become very good at it. However, the lack of any significant evidence is a problem.
Of course, the Shocking Bigfoot Footage videos on Youtube are pretty good.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 2, 2010 22:08:49 GMT -5
If it's ever found to be an actual creature, it'll be far less interesting. Cuz then it's just a type of ape or some such that can be classified, instead of a mythic monster.
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Post by JMA on Apr 3, 2010 4:58:32 GMT -5
If it's ever found to be an actual creature, it'll be far less interesting. Cuz then it's just a type of ape or some such that can be classified, instead of a mythic monster. Yeah, but scientists would still mark out.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2010 10:36:17 GMT -5
The fact that not a single piece of credible scientific evidence has EVER turned up. And the fact that the total number of these things would have to be in the thousands, if not hundred of thousands, in order for every story to be true (the land distance and spread of the sightings is HUGE). I've gotta go with no. SOMETHING other than footprint casts and shady videos/pictures. But alas, nothing as EVER been found. There's the numerous hair samples that they've determined to be from a primate that fits no currently known clade within. The problem is that a creature that lives in such a remote sort of habitat that is estimated to have the numbers it has--several to a dozen thousand is believed to be most likely--or the apparent intelligence that it has as well, is not something that would be seen alive very often, and very rarely could be found dead. It's almost impossible to find dead megafauna in the woods, even of common species such as black and grizzly bears, and this creature lies between those in terms of size (apparently). Does it exist? I think that it does. Will one ever be captured at this rate? No idea.
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Post by Parrish on Apr 3, 2010 10:41:32 GMT -5
I wouldn't suggest visiting Boggy Creek, non-believers don't make it out alive
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 3, 2010 11:30:02 GMT -5
I wouldn't suggest visiting Boggy Creek, non-believers don't make it out alive Actually only a couple of hours south of here. My stepdad had to work down there in Fouke one time; and he was telling me that out there at night, believer or not, you still get a lil creeped out.
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Apr 3, 2010 11:30:34 GMT -5
Oh, and also, it's technically Bigfoot being an unknown primate is an hypothesis, not a theory. A hypothesis is an possible explanation for observed activity, whereas a theory, in science at least, has been tested. Learn to use the word, Science Types love nothing more than to demolish arguements by explaining "But your terminalogy is wrong" while avoiding the actual matter at hand. If you use hypothesis,you avoid that.
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Post by Lick Ness Monster on Apr 3, 2010 13:09:06 GMT -5
I wouldn't suggest visiting Boggy Creek, non-believers don't make it out alive Yeah, the view of these river bottoms is something to behold. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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