Grendel
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But ... why is all the rum gone?
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Post by Grendel on Apr 8, 2010 21:40:10 GMT -5
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. That one makes sense. You can show a person how or where, but you can't accomplish the task for them. If I lead a horse to water though, why do I want to make him drink? If he wants to drink, that's fine. If not, I don't care either. Our journey will continue whether the horse drinks or not? |
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Post by Dave the Dave on Apr 8, 2010 21:44:05 GMT -5
A woman at work always tlls me I'm busier than a one armed paper hanger in a wind storm.
I mean, I get that hanging paper would probaby be hard with one arm on a windy day....but f***ing what?
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Post by H-Fist on Apr 8, 2010 22:39:47 GMT -5
"Waste not, want not". - So if I don't waste something it means that I don't want it? In what world does that make sense? Want has more than one meaning. We usually use "want" to mean "desire," but it also is equally valid when used to mean "require" [edit: require in the sense of true lack, not basic requirements] "Waste not, want not" means that you will not be short of what you already have. If I have $50 and need $40 at the end of the week, if I spend less than $10, I won't be wanting for money at week's end. George Carlin always said this, too. It's humorous, but not entirely true. Orally, yes, it makes perfect sense. But in written English, "near miss" is proper. "The train and the car had a near miss this morning." --News Reporter Let's diagram this: Train___\ ...\ the.....\ __|_had _____\__ miss__.....and.../........\ morning.......\ a \ nearcar____/..............\ this...\ theThe train and car missed one another. To point out how close the train and the car came to one another, the adjective "near" is added as a description of the "miss." What kind of miss? A near one, one that was a close call. Now, this does mean something exactly the opposite of the following sentence: The train nearly missed the car this morning. This car is now junk metal, and whole lot of coal will be late arriving. If we want to use Carlin's and your phrasing, it needs to be hyphenated when written: near-miss. That denotes that 1) it isn't a real word, and 2) that it is a singular idea, as opposed to one idea (miss) described by another (near). |
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Post by -Lithium- on Apr 8, 2010 22:44:53 GMT -5
"I thought to myself"
You can't think to anyone else...
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Apr 8, 2010 22:48:26 GMT -5
An Apple a Day Keeps the Doctor Away.
So it has to be exactly one apple? Why not two... or three? And why only apples? What about other fruits? Was this one thought up by some twisted apple obsessed mad man?!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2010 23:09:03 GMT -5
"I thought to myself" You can't think to anyone else... You can if you are expressing your thoughts aloud. If you're keeping them to yourself it makes sense, if a bit redundant. "Could care less" is the first thing I thought of when I saw the thread. Awful, that one. Another one - when someone likes something "better" / "best". That makes no sense and really irritates me - that phrasing implies that you do a more adequate job of liking one thing than another. Liking something more / most makes sense, that doesn't. |
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Apr 8, 2010 23:15:27 GMT -5
That one makes sense. You can show a person how or where, but you can't accomplish the task for them. If I lead a horse to water though, why do I want to make him drink? If he wants to drink, that's fine. If not, I don't care either. Our journey will continue whether the horse drinks or not? That's kinda the point, though. Pretend you're a carpenter. I want to be a carpenter. I come to you for help. You show me everything I need to know; it is now up to me to apply those things and become a good carpenter. You (the expert carpenter) can lead a horse (me, the novice carpenter) to water (skill), but you can't make him drink (apply it). Make more sense now? |
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Grendel
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But ... why is all the rum gone?
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Post by Grendel on Apr 8, 2010 23:49:16 GMT -5
If I lead a horse to water though, why do I want to make him drink? If he wants to drink, that's fine. If not, I don't care either. Our journey will continue whether the horse drinks or not? That's kinda the point, though. Pretend you're a carpenter. I want to be a carpenter. I come to you for help. You show me everything I need to know; it is now up to me to apply those things and become a good carpenter. You (the expert carpenter) can lead a horse (me, the novice carpenter) to water (skill), but you can't make him drink (apply it). Make more sense now? I know what the quote means, but why would I lead a horse to water and try and force it to drink? The damn thing is bigger than I am and could probably stomp my ass to pieces if it got angry. So I'm not going to force it to do shit. ;D |
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Post by Orange on Apr 8, 2010 23:57:39 GMT -5
How about fat chance and slim/small chance meaning THE EXACT SAME THING? Who thought that one up?
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Post by bob on Apr 9, 2010 1:08:37 GMT -5
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Post by H-Fist on Apr 9, 2010 1:09:39 GMT -5
That's kinda the point, though. Pretend you're a carpenter. I want to be a carpenter. I come to you for help. You show me everything I need to know; it is now up to me to apply those things and become a good carpenter. You (the expert carpenter) can lead a horse (me, the novice carpenter) to water (skill), but you can't make him drink (apply it). Make more sense now? I know what the quote means, but why would I lead a horse to water and try and force it to drink? The damn thing is bigger than I am and could probably stomp my ass to pieces if it got angry. So I'm not going to force it to do s***. ;D Because you are relying on the horse to carry your ass and your belongings between two distant points between which there is little or no respite in terms of climate or hospitality. So unlike the horse, you know where the one oasis is where he can load up on water and stay hydrated. After this one place, there is nowhere for 100 miles to get water, and you only have one skin that holds enough for you under this hot-ass sun. So you lead the horse (spur him on, direct him) to the oasis, where you start drinking and filling the skin. You look at him, and he's not drinking. So you start yelling, "Hey, horse! Drink! You need to be hydrated! I know you're not thirsty now, but you will be in a little while and you won't be able to drink anything! Drink! You need to do it!!!" So you're S.O.L. until Mr. Ed decides he wants to drink, lest he then pass out from dehydration on the trail. And then he dies. And you berate and kick and punch him for an hour, but that's a whole different story altogether. |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Apr 9, 2010 2:33:51 GMT -5
After Dark meaning during dark.
Wouldn't after dark be the daytime?
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Post by The Lach is very tired on Apr 9, 2010 7:18:28 GMT -5
Hand over fist. Never got it.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Apr 9, 2010 7:39:05 GMT -5
"Near Miss" Surely if two things miss each other it's a "near hit". Shouldn't a near miss technically be a hit? I mean, it sounds like it means it almost missed but didn't |
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Apr 9, 2010 8:09:04 GMT -5
"If you want, you can". I really want to shoot lightning out of hands without the help of any man-made device. And turn my bones into adamantium. And summon giant dragons to do my bidding like in the Final Fantasy games. And magically lose all my excess fat at this very second, without the skin grossly hanging afterwards. And I want to teleport at the other side of the planet to see how it is there.
"As you make your bed, so you must lie upon it". The morale is that when you start something, you must finish it, but that's a terrible example. Don't you ever make your bed in advance precisely so you don't have to make it before going to bed, i.e. when you're tired and don't want to do it? Actually, that's what I do all the time.
Come to think of it, I used one such sentence earlier: "the other side of the planet." The Earth is a sphere, it doesn't have sides.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Apr 9, 2010 9:04:41 GMT -5
"Hulkamania is runnin' wild! Watcha gonna do?"
Come to think of it - it makes little sense.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Apr 9, 2010 9:14:52 GMT -5
"I thought to myself" You can't think to anyone else... You can share your thoughts with other people, which I do believe can be considered thinking to someone else. And in any case, you can also think out loud (or at least voice your thinking), and possibly even harass other people with your thinking by following them around and commenting on what you're thinking. What? Am I really the only one who does that? If I lead a horse to water though, why do I want to make him drink? If he wants to drink, that's fine. If not, I don't care either. Our journey will continue whether the horse drinks or not? That's kinda the point, though. Pretend you're a carpenter. I want to be a carpenter. I come to you for help. You show me everything I need to know; it is now up to me to apply those things and become a good carpenter. You (the expert carpenter) can lead a horse (me, the novice carpenter) to water (skill), but you can't make him drink (apply it). Make more sense now? If Pavlov can make dogs drool on command, I sure can make a horse drink.  Anyway, I thought about more: Mentioning that something is happening "after midnight". There's no such thing as after midnight. "If wishes were fishes, the World would be an ocean". No it wouldn't. There's just no logical reason that the presence of fish would generate water. My dish doesn't turn into soup when I get some fish at the restaurant. "Going postal". What. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2010 9:30:27 GMT -5
"It is what it is" This is the most nondescript and meaningless thing I have ever heard. Hawk & DJ, we need your take.  "In my 50 years of organized baseball, that is the DUMBEST thing I've ever heard!" "It is what it is, Hawk." |
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Post by Long A, Short A on Apr 9, 2010 13:08:39 GMT -5
"It is what it is" This is the most nondescript and meaningless thing I have ever heard. Hawk & DJ, we need your take. "In my 50 years of organized baseball, that is the DUMBEST thing I've ever heard!" "It is what it is, Hawk."  |
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Post by H-Fist on Apr 9, 2010 14:20:18 GMT -5
Hawk & DJ, we need your take. "In my 50 years of organized baseball, that is the DUMBEST thing I've ever heard!" "It is what it is, Hawk." fair pole foul pole fair pole foul pole fair foul pole fair foul pole See my diagrammed sentence above on this page. Took care of it last night. |
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