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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on May 1, 2010 11:58:17 GMT -5
I think Dennis Miller said it best when he referred to "Dice" as "Fonzie with tourette's".
Two of my favorite "Dice" stories revolve around Bill Hicks. One is told by Kevin Booth in the book Agent of Evolution about how Bill Hicks attended one of Dice's theatre gigs and walked out 15 minutes in despite paying $30. Basically Hicks payed $2 a minute for the pleasure of walking out on Clay. The other is from the Cynthia True book American Scream in which a news reporter doing a story on Hicks to promote a local gig pointed out to Hicks that both he and Clay were playing the same town on the same weekend (Dice on Friday, Hicks on Saturday) to which Hicks replied "consider me the antidote".
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Post by "I'm Batman..." on May 1, 2010 15:17:02 GMT -5
i am surprised dice is still touring?!?!?
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Post by Phosphor Glow on May 1, 2010 15:39:55 GMT -5
I think he's absolutely terrible. Never got a chuckle out of me. Not once.
The Gottfried impression was hilarious, though.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on May 1, 2010 16:15:53 GMT -5
I think his appeal was that he was the anti-80's comedian. Reagan, family values, the Moral Majority, all that ... and he was, like Kinison but amped up to the Nth degree, someone who stood for everything against that: vulgarity, sinful behavior, promiscuity. He was the release valve. And when the nation started to transition away from those societal beliefs and whatnot, they moved away from him. That being said, "The Day The Laughter Died" is brilliant. 2+ hours of comedy without anything prepared, all improv'ed. Jed Shaffer ~And I don't care what the box office or critics say, Ford Fairlane is one of my Top 10 movies of all time. Seriously. It kind of amazes me how much we think alike sometimes.
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Post by sunwukong on May 2, 2010 0:35:04 GMT -5
Yeah, the guy still thinks its twenty years ago and that he's in any way culturally relevant. The fact that he doesn't realize what an antique he is is about the only thing funny about him. But he is still relevant, otherwise he'd be forgotten. How many other comedians were around in his era that no one talks about at all, or even were remembered 5 into tier career? He's remembered in the same ways Zubaz and Member's Only jackets were. As a fad to be ashamed of. That's not relevance, it's pathetic. He's not relevant to modern comedy. He didn't have a long enough run at the top to be relevant to the history of comedy. Like I said, he's a footnote. An oddity that was immensely popular for a few years and then became a nobody. He's spent the last twenty years coasting on his nanosecond of superstardom.
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Post by Triple Kelly on May 2, 2010 1:01:52 GMT -5
He still goes on Howard Stern's and Opie & Anthony's shows on XM Sirius occasionally. Can't believe O&A took him back and forgave him after he'd stabbed them in the back years ago, when they basically helped him find a resurgence in popularity when he was a late 80s after-thought.
Aside from Gilbert Gottfried, Anthony Cumia's Dice impression is the best.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on May 2, 2010 5:51:20 GMT -5
He was the Larry the Cable Guy of the 80s (except even more popular), a guy who reached a level of success and you had no clue why.
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Post by dsriggs on May 2, 2010 6:49:13 GMT -5
Aside from Gilbert Gottfried, Anthony Cumia's Dice impression is the best. OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE!!
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on May 2, 2010 6:54:59 GMT -5
i am surprised dice is still touring?!?!? Eh would doing his stand up at the exact same venue for next 5 to 6 months count as touring.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on May 2, 2010 7:14:39 GMT -5
American stand up does produce some dumb acts, for every Chris Rock there's a Carrot Top, for every Bill Hicks a 'Dice'.
And as we all know, 'people' as a collective group can have some awful, AWFUL taste.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 2, 2010 13:41:31 GMT -5
He still goes on Howard Stern's and Opie & Anthony's shows on XM Sirius occasionally. Can't believe O&A took him back and forgave him after he'd stabbed them in the back years ago, when they basically helped him find a resurgence in popularity when he was a late 80s after-thought. Aside from Gilbert Gottfried, Anthony Cumia's Dice impression is the best. Yeah, them bringing him back was largely to be nice. They at least talked it out. May of just been a good excuse for Anthony to continue his Dice impression, though. "I'm ovuh heu-uh now! OH!"
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Post by Perd on May 2, 2010 13:54:19 GMT -5
I'm not an Opie & Anthony fan, but Anthony's impression of Dice os great.
As to the original question. Dice Clay is terrible
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on May 2, 2010 15:27:29 GMT -5
He still goes on Howard Stern's and Opie & Anthony's shows on XM Sirius occasionally. Can't believe O&A took him back and forgave him after he'd stabbed them in the back years ago, when they basically helped him find a resurgence in popularity when he was a late 80s after-thought. Aside from Gilbert Gottfried, Anthony Cumia's Dice impression is the best. Well, atleast Dice did contribute to O&A and comedy in general somewhat in the form of introducing O&A to his at the time opening act Jim Norton. Anyone here see his VH1 Celebreality show, Dice: Undisputed where he is under the impression that he is now at last ready to play Giant Stadium? The best part of the show was they would show clips of Dice on stage of a comedy club doing material that would somehow pertain to the narrative of the episode (kinda like early Seinfeld episodes) and they were always in black and white (kinda making it look like old Lenny Bruce performance films).
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Post by Dave at the Movies on May 2, 2010 15:52:46 GMT -5
He was the Larry the Cable Guy of the 80s (except even more popular), a guy who reached a level of success and you had no clue why. No way. Larry The Cable Guy is way way way more popular especially in southern and midwest states. The guy sells out every arena he does and it has been almost ten years since he initially got really popular. I heard he is the highest paid comic in the world right now. Also people saying that Bill Hicks was better than Dice I will agree although you do have to remember that Bill Hick totally ripped off Sam Kinison. They were friends at one point in Texas but Hicks basically stole Kinison's style and made a name for himself with it. Dice was actually friends with Kinison in L.A. until Dice got Kinison's comedian friend that he started out with kicked out of Mitzi Shore's pink mansions that she would let comics stay in. Dice was a big influence to Kinison in that Dice convinced Kinison that he needed a gimmick and to wear flashier stuff to stand out and it greatly helped Kinison and in my opinion if Kinison hadn't died in 1993 he would have been the biggest comedian of the 90s easily. In fact stand up probably wouldn't have gone out of popularity if he hadn't died. That is how popular he was.
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