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Post by erisi236 on Feb 3, 2010 10:46:31 GMT -5
Right now they seem to be high on "cocky heels" which is ok, but I really want a guy in the main event scene that's just a brutal monster heel who destroys everything. The Judas Mesias or Rellik type ya know, just get in that ring and annihilate someone and be put over like whoever happens to be champion could never beat this guy.
I dunno, I'd just like to see one of those guys stalking TNA as opposed to the "hit the guy below the belt and get a quick escape win" kind of guy.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Feb 3, 2010 10:50:04 GMT -5
Their problem with that is their big scary guy is a face. So when they book someone as a guy who goes around destroying it'd have to be Tomko or someone in that vein.
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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 3, 2010 11:25:47 GMT -5
Abyss was the easy answer, but he's been face for quite awhile now.
Samoa Joe always could be, but the crowd always wants to turn him face, or at least tweener. Currently, Morgan and Hernandez are getting that same treatment.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Feb 3, 2010 11:31:41 GMT -5
Yeah, all the big guys in TNA are too agile, so they all do things that get them face pops.
They could always bring in some huge WWE castoff or another in this role, but then you'd see 30 threads about how TNA is a hobo that digs out of the WWE dumpster.
I'd still like to see Big Vis in this role in TNA, he did a great job with it as Big Daddy V.
Or The Boogeyman. He looks scary enough, and his moveset is a monster heel's. I still think he could have a great career. Dude is creepy. Him running around TNA laying people out just because he can would be great. And I would pay to see him worm The Band, Hogan, Bischoff, Bubba The Love Sponge...
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Feb 3, 2010 11:36:13 GMT -5
They really dropped the ball with Joe. He could have been huge. Joe v AJ could have been a major money match if booked right, with Joe as the dominant heel and AJ the plucky underdog champion.
Even Morgan could have be better booked as a smart hoss character. His thrown together team with Hernandez smacks of TNA having no others ideas for them.
Oh and I wouldn't base my booking on the iMPACTZONE. I'm all for giving the crowd what they want but they get in for free and pop for pretty much anything so the last thing I'd do is let them influence the product.
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Post by mysterydriver on Feb 3, 2010 11:41:52 GMT -5
I'd still like to see Big Vis in this role in TNA, he did a great job with it as Big Daddy V. I'd like that. Especially if he grabs a microphone, gives an evil smile, and says "I hear the X-Division isn't about weight limits." before crushing poor Consequences Creed. Only thing is, I'd like to see Amazing Red get the belt back because he could have a great "David and Goliath" feud with Big V. Red could be a ping pong ball for V's offense and then for the big show down he could work over V's legs with kicks and other attacks, catch him with a missle dropkick that finally drops the monster, and then hits a spectacular looking top rope move for the three. Sorry, random fantasy booking. It always happens if I don't get my caffine early.
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Post by hollywood on Feb 3, 2010 11:48:34 GMT -5
Problem is, big monster heels are always fairly short-lived, and they tend to always end up like Abyss--big and goofy. It's happened quite a bit in the past:
- The Great Khali - Kurrgan - Viscera - Kamala
Hell, I might even wager that the Undertaker and Kane might be the only monster heels who DIDN'T eventually become goofy faces.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Feb 3, 2010 11:49:27 GMT -5
Big Daddy V: X Division Heel. Someone needs to book that.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Feb 3, 2010 11:50:11 GMT -5
Kane did for a while. Hurrikanes mean anything to you?
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Post by hollywood on Feb 3, 2010 11:51:19 GMT -5
Kane did for a while. Hurrikanes mean anything to you? I stand corrected. Perhaps it's good I didn't wager.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Feb 3, 2010 11:59:30 GMT -5
Monster heels turn goofy face when their character runs dry. That's the natural evolution of things.
Seriously though, think of the long run on Big Daddy V X-Division Heel: Big Daddy V: Ultimate X. Big Daddy V: Terrordome. Big Daddy V: King of the Mountain.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Feb 3, 2010 12:03:24 GMT -5
If Homicide can't climb out of the thing how the hell is Big Vis gonna manage it?
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Post by erisi236 on Feb 3, 2010 12:04:41 GMT -5
Somehow I can see Big Daddy V being brought in to feud with Abyss as his long lost half cousin who killed Abyss' sister.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Feb 3, 2010 12:07:00 GMT -5
Somehow I can see Big Daddy V being brought in to feud with Abyss as his long lost half cousin who killed Abyss' sister. "Sounds good to me."
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Post by The Spelunker! on Feb 3, 2010 12:17:37 GMT -5
Eating his way out? He had those metal teeth for a while.
That's how you get the title off of him though. Every time you want a face run,put him in a match he can't win, but gets to destroy people.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2010 12:19:14 GMT -5
If Homicide can't climb out of the thing how the hell is Big Vis gonna manage it? Have Trish be on the outside of the dome...he'll find a way out...I mean come on...Hes the Worlds Largest Love Machine...
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Feb 3, 2010 13:07:01 GMT -5
The problem with monster heels is that they're rarely dispicable (they're huge. They don't need to be nasty), which leads to people wanting to cheer for them, as witnessed with pretty much every one you can think of over the course of the past 20 years.
Vader is the only guy I can think of who didn't turn face, but he might have towards the end of his WWF run.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Feb 3, 2010 13:34:10 GMT -5
How about hiring guys like Raymond Rowe, Rasche Brown, Bison Smith, and Brodie Lee to fill the monster slot?
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Post by AriadosMan on Feb 3, 2010 14:01:24 GMT -5
Maybe they don't need a monster heel, they just need a guy who flat-out destroys people and gets the crowd to hate him regardless of size? Desmond could probably fit the bill.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Feb 3, 2010 14:24:56 GMT -5
I would like to see them bring in Mikel Judas or Phil Shatter from NWA Anarchy. Both are around 6'8-7'0. Shatter is the better wrestler and is ripped but Judas could play a nice undertaker type of role.
TNA hired them on as security in an angle that never went anywhere with Mick Foley. I think they are back full time in NWA Anarchy but they both really need to be signed.
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