So Hogan and Bischoff are heels, right?

[pacino]

They can't POSSIBLY be passing these guys off as faces, or even tweeners. They've done nothing but alienate fans, seemingly on purpose, and have brought in a bunch of trash, other than Kennedy and Kendrick.

It's all gotta be a long-run work, right? I mean, I hope?

edit: I should add that I think Hogan's been pretty terrible at it, while Bischoff is, as always, an excellent performer.

[Michael Coello]

While I get the heel vibes from Bischoff, especially with his relationship with The Band, Hogan hasn't been giving off the same feeling. Most of the booing really didn't have much to do about being heel, but more like bad timing and crowd judgment. It's like Cornette when he came in as the "New Face of TNA management", where he said the same things about making people earn their shot.

[Mayonnaise]

I think it depends on the segment honestly. When dealing with fans and Foley, they come off as heels but, to most others they come off as faces or at worst tweeners.

[EJS]

Honestly it seems like Hogan doesn't realize the crowd will shit on him when he talks about how TNA "wasn't good enough" or "was a playpen" before he showed up. It doesn't seem intentional heel heat to me.

[Jimmy]

Hogan should be heel, Jarrett should be face. Simple, yet TNA's screwing it up.

[Apricots And A Pear Tree]

I am 100% sure Bischoff is a heel but I have no idea what Hogan is supposed to be.

[Pounder]

Will this "it's crap unless it's exactly how I think it should be" stuff never end?

Really, it's a show. Watch it, enjoy it or don't watch it. Root for who you want, hope those you don't like fail.

I don't get why so many people who clearly see wrestling as enjoyable as piles, still watch.

Why this obsession with who is heel and who is face? If you like someone they're a face, if you don't then they're a heel.

Perhaps a wrestling boom will only happen once we stop trying to microproduce the shows for them?

[toodarkmark]

Jan 19, 2010 22:36:56 GMT -5 Pounder said:

Why this obsession with who is heel and who is face? If you like someone they're a face, if you don't then they're a heel.

The obsession with heel and face sort of comes from this thing called professional wrestling that's been around for 50 years.

I always booed the heels. But it was defined. When in a show you boo a guy then cheer him, then boo him again, well, people get turned off and turn the channel. It's just, stupid. Be something, don't play a weird middle all night.

[mattyc]

I honestly think that Hulk Hogan is expecting to be cheered by the fans, he no doubt genuinely thinks what he is doing is what the fans want and will in turn cheer him for and he must be confused when he gets a reaction like the one he got at Genesis during his comments in the ring.

Hulk Hogan has always been the master of playing the ground and getting the reaction he wants but for the first time I can recall I think we are seeing that he is seriously out of touch with how the fans will react to him, in the Impact Zone at least.

With Eric Bischoff it doesn’t matter so much, He’s a natural heel and he will be a heel in the storylines at some point, even if he’s not meant to be one now.

[Deleted]

Honestly, it's Impact. They're beyond heels and faces - they reside in the strange world where no one has motivations for any of their actions.

["Nature Boy" Ric Moranis]

Aren't Hogan and Bischoff playing their EXACT same roles from Celebrity Championship Wrestling?

I've never seen more than small bits and pieces of that show, but Bischoff was a Simon Cowell-esque heel that still gave credit when when credit was due and can recognize talent, and Hogan was a face because he's Hogan, but he's played the character "Mr. 'This is my show brother, I'm gonna be hard on you because I'm Hulk Hogan and I know this business inside and out, brother. You wanna be the best, you learn from the best, brother".

I know because Russo's involved everyone's expecting major swerves (and there probably will be), but so far, I just see Hogan and Bischoff playing those same two characters from CCW (which probably isn't too far from reality).

[SAJ Forth]

I get the feeling is the idea is Hogan doesn't understand that to them, it's little more than a paycheck.

[Professor Chaos]

IDK, nothing in this company makes any sence. It used to be interesting enough to make me watch, but the past two weeks I'm considering deleting it from my DVR entirely. The Nasty Boys, Hall, Xpac, Kendrick, Kennedy, Flair.... I could give a rats ass about. Give me my TNA from a month ago anyday.

[SAJ Forth]

They have made a lot of head scratching decisions.

[Dave at the Movies]

I think in the end they will turn Hogan and Bischoff full heel and do a big "destroy the company from within storyline."

To me that is the be place to take it. I mean why not? They already have legit heat from the Impact crowd. They have younger guys they just brought in that can be in a stable. I don't think they should do an NWO thing but something similar to Main Event Mafia only with outisder/insiders instead of main event top stars.

[mauled]

Hogan is ment to be a face and thinks he should be but because the fans are sensibly not buying into his ego trip its not working.

[Pounder]

Jan 21, 2010 9:20:58 GMT -5 mauled said:

Hogan is ment to be a face and thinks he should be but because the fans are sensibly not buying into his ego trip its not working.

Let's look how "face" Hogan is.

Frantizing closely with major heels Bischoff, Hall, Nash and the greasy-sex-tape (eww) guy. Barring major face Foley from the arena in the first show. Having confrontations with both Foley and the companies top heel Angle.

....oh yeah, he's he architectural baby face there isn't he?

He's neither a face nor a heel. They recognise that he has 'face appeal' and sometimes use that but anyone who thinks Hogan is a face, hasn't been watching.

Of course when it comes to a "hogan bashing" opinion, I guess facts go out the window.

Grrr Hogan, boo-hiss-boo. etc

[foreveryoung]

It appeared from the beginning Hogan was supposed to be the face opposing the heels Bischoff, Nash, Hall, and Waltman.. Now who the hell knows.. Its a big giant clusterf***.. Leave up to TNA to have no rhyme or reason. Im not sure whats worse the dying years of WCW or TNA currently. Still maybe the dying years of WCW but I wasnt be surprised if TNA heads down that road.


Why they brought Hogan and his buddies in and make Hogan almost their head of creative in an attempt to reconstruct TNA in "his image" is beyond me. His day has came and gone in wrestling. Hogan will never have the same appeal now that he did in the 80s and 90s. Neither will the whole trying to recreate TNA into "WCW 1997 light). Im sure Hogan and his bandwagon buddies are happy.. They can come in and creatively destroy the territory and steal money.

AMazing what just a few short weeks does. Hogan and his crew come in and TNA is a big mess.

[comahan]

Bicsh is a heel. I think the whole point with Hogan is that we're supposed to be wondering.
Is he what he says he is? Or is he aligned with his old pals?

[Crappler El 0 M]

Hogan is not supposed to be a heel right now, regardless of how the things he says or does is received by the fans.