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Post by dibiasemark on Sept 25, 2006 20:47:16 GMT -5
Business started to go downhill in 2001. Do ya think there will ever be another big boom period for the wwe like in the 80's and 98-01 again? Or do u think the business is overexposed and people just wont care about wrestling as much as they did. Will the business bring all the people who stopped watching wrestling?
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Sept 25, 2006 20:51:23 GMT -5
It'll happen again, but not with the E. Some upstart indy promotion will be on to something and it'll catch again.
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Post by jobcena on Sept 25, 2006 20:54:08 GMT -5
Angle to tna=nwo of 2006
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Post by vaderbomb91 on Sept 25, 2006 20:54:54 GMT -5
Business started to go downhill in 2001. Do ya think there will ever be another big boom period for the wwe like in the 80's and 98-01 again? Or do u think the business is overexposed and people just wont care about wrestling as much as they did. Will the business bring all the people who stopped watching wrestling? It has nothing to do with overexposure. The top 2 promotions both have products with MAJOR problems. That's why business has tapered off. |
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Post by BRV on Sept 25, 2006 20:57:54 GMT -5
I honestly think we're just around the corner from one. WWE 2006 reminds me of WWE early-1997, when they had established stars, but guys like The Rock, Stone Cold and Triple H were just starting to come into their own.
WWE 2006 has established superstars such as Triple H, HBK, John Cena, Edge, King Booker Batista and Undertaker. Plus, they also have several guys who are up-and-coming and are hugely over with the younger fans of the WWE. These are guys like Randy Orton, Johnny Nitro, Shelton Benjamin, Umaga, Jeff Hardy, Ken Kennedy and Bobby Lashley.
I figure that we'll be in another boom period by early-2007.
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Post by Blindkarevik on Sept 25, 2006 21:00:56 GMT -5
It usually goes in ten year cycles..... so basically if there's not another boom period by 2011-12... that's when I'll start worrying.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Sept 25, 2006 21:13:55 GMT -5
Business started to go downhill in 2001. Do ya think there will ever be another big boom period for the wwe like in the 80's and 98-01 again? Or do u think the business is overexposed and people just wont care about wrestling as much as they did. Will the business bring all the people who stopped watching wrestling? It has nothing to do with overexposure. The top 2 promotions both have products with MAJOR problems. That's why business has tapered off. There's a second top promotion? |
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Post by dibiasemark on Sept 25, 2006 21:23:29 GMT -5
It has nothing to do with overexposure. The top 2 promotions both have products with MAJOR problems. That's why business has tapered off. There's a second top promotion? Maybe Angle can turn TNA around if booked right. I would love for vince to see some competition. I think it's due time |
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Post by Smokey McTrees on Sept 26, 2006 1:22:47 GMT -5
Cool, then I can start telling chicks I like wrasslin' again without feeling icky!
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Post by tmp2005 on Sept 26, 2006 1:54:46 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm thinking we're on the verge of a big boom coming soon. These are interesting times we live in as wrestling fans, and Kurt Angle is the catalyst needed to start it off.
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Post by thesunbeast on Sept 26, 2006 2:05:14 GMT -5
Pro wrestling can never be overexposed. There are new people being born, and by the time they become fans of the product at any age, they will have no recolection of what things were like beforw they were born, and the business would have changed anyway. If pro wrestling didn't die when Vince Mcmahon said that it was "entertainment", then it will never die.
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Post by J.O.B. Squad on Sept 26, 2006 2:36:26 GMT -5
I think their can be a boom again but its not gonna come from the WWE,I mean to me is getting stale and lacking in storylines and running out of ideas and while TNA has a lil of that,atleast TNA is progressing and getting better and better.
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Post by Topher is Human on Sept 26, 2006 4:38:25 GMT -5
I think their can be a boom again but its not gonna come from the WWE,I mean to me is getting stale and lacking in storylines and running out of ideas and while TNA has a lil of that,atleast TNA is progressing and getting better and better. Well theyve only been nationally known for a year, so if theyre getting stale even in the slightest sense, somethings wrong. |
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Post by EvilMasterBetty, Esq. on Sept 26, 2006 7:17:33 GMT -5
Short answer, yes it will. It always goes up and down.
Long answer, well, I don't think any of us know why exactly. It's usually a combination of things. Usually its a combination of competition, big established stars, fresh storylines, up and comers, and some star that everyone will latch on to. I'm not entirely sure who the next breakout star will be, but that's still the part that is missing.
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Post by The Lach is very tired on Sept 26, 2006 7:24:27 GMT -5
If you look at wrestling like any tv show it's bound to have up & down periods, no show is popular forever, thats why shows get axed. Sure wrestling is a bit different but the basic principal is the same.
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Post by David Troy a.k.a legendmythman on Sept 26, 2006 7:30:49 GMT -5
not till vince has something else to steal, homogonize, and label attitude, moxy... etc. OR Shane rents a couple of tanks and parks them in front of the Levesque compound for a coup
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on Sept 26, 2006 7:39:31 GMT -5
I honestly think we're just around the corner from one. WWE 2006 reminds me of WWE early-1997, when they had established stars, but guys like The Rock, Stone Cold and Triple H were just starting to come into their own. I'd posit that it seems a little closer to 1995 ... In the WWE, you have some decent wrestlers who are just straight forward wrestlers (Benoit/Edge/Rey, Bret/Shawn); you have ridiculous, over-the-top gimmicks (Highlanders/Cryme Tyme, TL Hopper/Goon) and you have a couple of people whom the fed seems insistent on pushing, despite the audience obviously rejecting them (Cena/Orton, Diesel/King Mabel). In TNA (compared here to WCW), you have an absolute mish-mash of silly gimmicks and nostalgia (Sullivan's Dungeon Of Doom and Hogan, Shark Boy/the Jackass trio and Sting) sharing screen time with amazing undercard work by a group of technical and aerial wizards (WCW's Cruiserweights, TNA's X-Division), combined with a corporate entity which employs the "spaghetti against the wall" mentality of getting their product into homes: try a whole bunch of approaches, see what sticks. And, finally, you have Ring Of Honor (compared here to ECW), an indy fed with an amazingly loyal fanbase (ECW Mutants, ROHbots) and smart booking that has given the fed national notoriety, if not a national presence. The card is filled with a variety of wrestlers who work together to put on a product that gets the entire promotion over instead of individual wrestlers, concentrating on fantastic in-ring product and angles that are focused on wrestling. If we follow these comparisons ... the boom's still a bit ahead of us. |
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Post by willywonka666 on Sept 26, 2006 7:45:27 GMT -5
of course, ive always said it, wrestling, like any other form of entertainment, whether it be music or television or movies, will get better once the economy gets better and people have money to spend, then,everything will step up a notch
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Post by Magneto on Sept 26, 2006 8:25:02 GMT -5
Not with Cena and DX in the forefront...nah. It won't happen.
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Post by messiah on Sept 26, 2006 8:39:05 GMT -5
This makes me sad. It makes me sad because Umaga is included in a list of "up and coming stars". Please. The guys been around for years. He's just bee repackaged so many times people don't even remember anymore. Where is the Umaga gimmick going to go? Seriously. It's such a waste of time that they keep pushing this guy.
And as for the others guys, well, Jeff Hardy is hardly a spring chicken himself anymore and Randy Orton will no doubt be a champion again because Vince has a huge hard on for him and he's HHH's boy, but other than that who cares? I don't think anybody really cares about Orton anymore.
Nitro can't talk, neither can Benjamin, which basically leaves us with Kennedy and Lashley. I could see both of them going far, Lashely further than Kennedy because he's got the look Vince likes, but then I don't see either one of them setting the world on fire.
The closest thing the E has to a real mainstream star is Carlito, I think, but even that's a stretch. I just don't see the makings of a boom yet, the talent simply isn't up to snuff.At least not in the E. There's plenty of incredibly talented workers in the indies, but because of Vince, very few of them will ever get a shot, because they can't "work" the WWE "style".
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