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Post by Orange on Jun 18, 2010 0:09:43 GMT -5
make everybody angry? It has happened with Transformers, it happened with Alvin & The Chipmunks, and now it appears to be happening with The Smurfs. Maybe it's because I didn't grow up with these shows (I had a few Chipmunks movies, but that's it), but is it really that bad to make new movies off of them? People all around the internet despised the Alvin series before it was even released, but why? Do some people have a certain attachment to old shows, or is it just fear that it is going to ruin the show's legacy?
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Post by Doctor Of Style on Jun 18, 2010 0:12:01 GMT -5
Never underestimate the power of nerd rage.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Jun 18, 2010 0:24:34 GMT -5
Attachment to old cartoons is part of it. Deviating from the original is a no-no for some people.
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Post by Kris Kobain on Jun 18, 2010 0:27:03 GMT -5
It's the same as movie adaption of a comic book or novel.
People want things to be exactly like the original and get upset when things deviate.
It's almost a given that the screenplay writer and director are going to take creative liberties.
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Post by The Genesis of KoOS on Jun 18, 2010 0:27:32 GMT -5
A good thing should not be changed, it's basically like rewriting history.
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Jun 18, 2010 0:31:52 GMT -5
Nostalgia Glasses. People refuse to take them off. especially when something from their past is brought back for a newer generation.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Jun 18, 2010 0:36:14 GMT -5
Because they want a regular 2d version and everything has to be 3d
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Post by Krimzon on Jun 18, 2010 0:39:16 GMT -5
I'm saying it right now. If they ever remake any Charlie Brown special as a movie, I swear I will riot. Not "sit-at-my-computer-and-type-angry-things" riot. I mean "out-in-the-streets-going-to-jail" riot.
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Post by celticjobber on Jun 18, 2010 0:40:27 GMT -5
It doesn't only apply to cartoons, it also goes for regular movies like the Karate Kid. To me it's because they're usually very sub-par in comparison to the originals I grew up with. And I absolutely hate when they're made as half live-action and half CGI.
And most people will never watch the originals once a movie or cartoon is remade because to them the newer version is automatically superior.
Like for example, my nephew and his friends refuse to watch the original Halloween, because it's "gay" and "old" compared to Rob Zombie's remake.
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Post by AriadosMan on Jun 18, 2010 0:44:13 GMT -5
Because its hip to pretend like the originals were somehow a brilliant work of art through Nostalgia Filter.
Its one thing to get upset when a genuine classic like say, Psycho is poorly remade. Its another thing to act like remaking The Karate Kid will somehow cause the downfall of Western Civilization.
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Post by Kris Kobain on Jun 18, 2010 0:53:11 GMT -5
Because its hip to pretend like the originals were somehow a brilliant work of art through Nostalgia Filter. Its one thing to get upset when a genuine classic like say, Psycho is poorly remade. Its another thing to act like remaking The Karate Kid will somehow cause the downfall of Western Civilization. Psycho sucked Some of us liked the original Karate Kid although the remake doesn't bother me. |
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jun 18, 2010 0:53:35 GMT -5
Nostalgia for the originals blinds people, making them unable to accept the adaptations for what they are.
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Post by AriadosMan on Jun 18, 2010 1:03:20 GMT -5
Because its hip to pretend like the originals were somehow a brilliant work of art through Nostalgia Filter. Its one thing to get upset when a genuine classic like say, Psycho is poorly remade. Its another thing to act like remaking The Karate Kid will somehow cause the downfall of Western Civilization. Psycho sucked Some of us liked the original Karate Kid although the remake doesn't bother me. I didn't like the original of The Karate Kid and have no desire to see the remake, but boy did "Karate Kid is being REMADE!?!" bring out the rage. The original was popular but was hardly the "unique masterpiece for all time" some of the people raging at the remake made it out to be. |
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jun 18, 2010 1:13:10 GMT -5
It's the same as movie adaption of a comic book or novel. People want things to be exactly like the original and get upset when things deviate. It's almost a given that the screenplay writer and director are going to take creative liberties. That's true for some people, but I'd say there are people like me who fall right in the middle. I don't mind creative liberties so long as they stay true to the core of the original characters and universe. I just get mad when they change things just to be "cool". Case in point, I enjoyed Bay's first Transformers movie, but hated the second one because of all the toilet humor. That crap doesn't fit in Transformers. |
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Post by Kris Kobain on Jun 18, 2010 1:18:04 GMT -5
Psycho sucked Some of us liked the original Karate Kid although the remake doesn't bother me. I didn't like the original of The Karate Kid and have no desire to see the remake, but boy did "Karate Kid is being REMADE!?!" bring out the rage. The original was popular but was hardly the "unique masterpiece for all time" some of the people raging at the remake made it out to be. Oh I know people were really mad especially that Jayden had the lead. For me I'm happy my niece and nephews can enjoy something that I enjoyed as a kid and it's modernized for them. Same think with Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs. |
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Post by Kris Kobain on Jun 18, 2010 1:24:18 GMT -5
It's the same as movie adaption of a comic book or novel. People want things to be exactly like the original and get upset when things deviate. It's almost a given that the screenplay writer and director are going to take creative liberties. That's true for some people, but I'd say there are people like me who fall right in the middle. I don't mind creative liberties so long as they stay true to the core of the original characters and universe. I just get mad when they change things just to be "cool". Case in point, I enjoyed Bay's first Transformers movie, but hated the second one because of all the toilet humor. That crap doesn't fit in Transformers. Oh withoudt a doubt there are people in the middle. It's the ones that get angry at the idea of a new movie being made. |
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Jun 18, 2010 1:29:00 GMT -5
The nostalgia thing is especially funny when it comes to GI Joe and Transformers, given their histories. With the former, if everything must be faithful to the original, then there shouldn't be any Cobra, or Snake-Eyes, or any other aspects of ARAH because the original GI Joe toyline had none of that. For the latter, every new cartoon that has come out since the 80s has given the franchise its own spin, so for the movie to do that to is in keeping with tradition.
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Post by The Line on Jun 18, 2010 1:34:38 GMT -5
A good thing should not be changed, it's basically like rewriting history. but that's the thing. Nothing gets changed. When this new Smurfs movie is released, the old cartoon will still exist in its original form. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2010 2:19:00 GMT -5
I quite enjoyed Alvin and the Chipmunks.
The hate, at least my own personal hate is geared primarily at Transformers and G.I Joe. I have no problem whatsoever with either of these things being turned into films. I have no problem whatsoever with them changing things to make it work as a film, as different rules apply to a live action feature than to a cartoon series. Also, as has already been ststed, both G.I. Joe and Transformers have had numerous incarnations throughout the years.
My beef is with the fact that these movies sucked ass.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 18, 2010 9:07:54 GMT -5
I have no problem with these updates and remakes per se. It all comes down to the quality of the movies.
I actually didn't mind GI Joe really. The lead was too terribly wooden, but overall it struck the right tone I thought. Everybody being related to everybody was pretty lame. Also, not sold on the look for Cobra Commander and Destro, but we'll see what happens with the sequel. Most importantly, it had Arnold Vosloo in it, who is AWESOME. He was incredibly badass in The Mummy movies, so it was cool to have a Brendan Frasier cameo in GI Joe. (same director, if you didn't know)
The first Transformers film was passable on first viewing, but doesn't hold up on repeats - the awful stuff really sticks out when you watch it a second time. Transformers 2 is one of the worst movies ever to come out of a major studio. It was the closest I've ever come to walking out on a movie - if tickets weren't so expensive, I might have.
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