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Post by chunkylover53 on Apr 4, 2010 13:01:27 GMT -5
I know Double J isn't the most revered in the IWC, and his WCW main event/World title pushed seemed forced to many, but what if he had a similar push in WWF(I'm talking Attitude Era)? Would it have been better?
Bare in mind, WCW around that time didn't have a credible main event. It was either old guys who were long past their prime(Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, Ric Flair) or non-wrestlers(Vince Russo, David Arquette). What you had left was Booker T, DDP, and Scott Steiner. Not to mention, WCW was a sinking ship at the time with all the major talent headed to the then flourishing WWF, so WCW was forced to push whatever talent they had left.
WWF however, had a credible main event("Stone Cold" Steve Austin, The Rock, Triple H, Mick Foley, The Undertaker etc), and a stacked midcard. Vince Russo was the head writer for most of 1999, and him and Double J were real good friends. One of the reasons Jarrett decided to go to WCW was to follow his friend Vince Russo.
However, lets say Jarrett stayed regardless of Russo, do you think he would fit well in the WWF main event scene? Right before he left, he was getting a decent mid card push. Became the 2nd ever Euro-Continental Champion, and was in a hot feud with Chyna over "the battle of the sexes". I feel if they were to capitalize on the heat he got as a mysogenist, he could've had a visiting role in the main event. He was rumored to feud with "Stone Cold" Steve Austin around that time, but Austin nixed it due to his real life tension between him and Jarrett(which could've been used in the potential feud).
I think with Jeff Jarrett, for him to get over, he needs A)Somebody who is already over to feud with and/or B)An interesting storyline to catch the fans attention. He's not the type of guy to be a figurehead for the company by any means or to be forced upon the fans.
With babyfaces like Austin, Rock, Foley, they could've carried Jarrett in their feud, and make him appear to be a credible main eventer/champion. I would've gave him a short-term reign as WWF champion sometime in 2000, feuding with The Rock. But first, I would have to have him win the IC title back from Chyna to regain his credibility. Because losing to her and NOT getting revenge would not be a credible way to move up the card.
Thoughts?
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Post by quantum on Apr 4, 2010 13:12:27 GMT -5
God no the only time I have ever found Double J entertaining was in 1994/1995 time fueding with Razor and having The Roadie besides him. He just became awful as soon as we were supposed to take him serious he is a solid mid card wrestler at best should never have been in the main event now or then in either WWE WCW or TNA.
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Post by MAGGLE on Apr 4, 2010 13:14:12 GMT -5
No, no 1000x no. The Attidute Era was reserved for Austin, Rock, Mankind and Triple H(and abit HBK). There was no place for JEFF FREAKIN JARRETT
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Apr 4, 2010 13:19:40 GMT -5
Had Jarrett's push happened in the WWF, there'd be no doubt in peoples minds that he's a credible main eventer, but it happened on the wrong company so he gets dumped on rather unfairly. The attitude still seems to exist that because WCW failed, everything achieved there doesn't count and the only credible main eventers they had were the WWF and NWA castoffs plus Goldberg and people like DDP, Booker T, Steiner and Jarrett don't count or only got a push because of who they were friends with.
He'd be more accepted had he reached the top in the WWF, the problem is, like with Owen Hart, the people at the very top didn't want to work with him so the only way he could get upward mobility was to leave the company. I don't believe he should have had a long run with the belt or anything, but he would have at least had a transitional reign had events played out the right way for him in the 'E.
I think the only difference between HHH and Jarrett is 3 inches in height and a larger nose. Neither are people who the company should be built around, but they're both decent talents and deserving of a few runs with the belt based on that when there's no-one better around.
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Post by impzilla on Apr 4, 2010 13:26:38 GMT -5
Jarrett would have made a great WWF champion. He had all the tools and charisma to make a great foil for Austin. Give Jarrett a similar run as to what JBL received a few years later and people would be viewing Jarrett in a completely different light.
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Post by Above Average on Apr 4, 2010 13:31:08 GMT -5
He had all the tools necessary to be WWF Champion and would have in fact been champion had it not been for Steve Austin's politicking ways. So, yes I think he could have and I think then people wouldn't constantly claim he shouldn't have been a main eventer.
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Post by jobber2thestars on Apr 4, 2010 13:41:36 GMT -5
I like Jeff Jarrett, but I have trouble seeing him as WWF Champion during his time with the company. Guys like Austin, the Rock and the Undertaker were so much more over than Double J, that it just wasn't going to happen. What's sad, is that he had a great gimmick during the time. I may be in the minority, but I loved the mysoginyst character, and he was amazing as a heel.
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Post by bamblink on Apr 4, 2010 13:42:35 GMT -5
he fit more in wcw not in wwf
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Post by chunkylover53 on Apr 4, 2010 14:15:43 GMT -5
he fit more in wcw not in wwf While I do agree with you in principle, he was used better in WWF. I understand WCW was a southern based "rasslin" promotion(before Vince Russo came along) and he would seem like a natural fit, Jarrett wasn't very over in either of his runs. Plus, WWF got him noticed, first as a country boy, then revamped him as a bad ass.
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Post by Natalya's Ass Fanboy on Apr 4, 2010 14:32:37 GMT -5
Jeff Jarrett is probably one of the top-five most underrated performers of my generation. People hate on him for various reasons, but he was a complete performer -- good look, good worker, good talker, good charisma.
Let's also keep in mind that Jarrett held the I.C. title six times back when it was every bit as prestigious as whichever 'world' title is on SmackDown these days. That in itself should make this an easy yes, even ignoring what a fine all-around performer Double J was.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Apr 4, 2010 14:54:49 GMT -5
No. Owen Hart would had been a better choice for world champ.
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Post by SAJ Forth on Apr 4, 2010 15:30:02 GMT -5
I think that it would've been somewhat well received at the time, but debated now.
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Post by quantum on Apr 4, 2010 15:55:01 GMT -5
Jarrett would have made a great WWF champion. He had all the tools and charisma to make a great foil for Austin. Give Jarrett a similar run as to what JBL received a few years later and people would be viewing Jarrett in a completely different light. Well JBL's run as champion was what made ,me finally stop watching WWE full time in 2005. So if that's 'viewing Jarrett in a different light' ,many more would switch the channel also. Giving Jarrett the championship may have then lead to WCW winning the war. As Iam sure Iam not the only one who stopped watching because of JBL. The argument that Jarrett's rise happend in the wrong company makes no scense. Whne we look at other wrestlers who have went from company to company and stright into the main event wether it be WWE/F WCW, TNA or even ECW.
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Post by absolutewrestling on Apr 4, 2010 16:07:24 GMT -5
I totally believe Jarrett could have been a WWF champion. His character over the years has always been a watered down WWE/WWF style character...Actually now that I think about. Jarrett reminds me a lot of Shelton Benjamin....He was a tights, muscles and a "what you see is what you get"...No real direction to the character and no real feel for the audience to care about. BUT....in the mid-90's, you didn't need a character (Ahmed Johnson, Rocky Mavia, hell even Bret was a fluffy character to an extent)...SO yea, I think Jarrett could be a WWF champion in the past.
He doesn't have enough skill for today though.
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Post by Rorschach on Apr 4, 2010 16:08:06 GMT -5
I think that any chance he had at main event legitimacy back then vanished after he lost to Chyna. Had he remained in the WWE, I don't think he would have ever gotten beyond being a mid-card heel, despite his talent. That one loss would have tainted him for AGES. Had that match with Chyna never happened....I could see him doing better. But especially for back then....that would have been Main event poison.
You can argue that Jericho survived being paired with Chyna....and so did Eddie Guerrero. But those two were also better at reinventing themselves and doing new things to make the fans forget the old than Jarrett ever was, or ever will be.
I like Double J....but let's be fair. To that point, he had been a wanna-be country crooner with a big electric cowboy hat....a Ric Flair wanna-be....and then a misogynist woman hater. Not the strongest series of runs for a potential World Champion, especially with guys like Taker, HHH, Austin, and the Rock already mixing it up in the ME as it was. Throw in the arrival of Kurt Angle a couple years later, and there'd simply be no room for Jarrett in that mix.
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Post by Madagascar Fred on Apr 4, 2010 16:14:13 GMT -5
No. Owen Hart would had been a better choice for world champ.
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Post by hajimenoippo on Apr 4, 2010 16:14:32 GMT -5
short answer: NO
Long Answer: HELL NO
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Post by El Dandy on Apr 4, 2010 17:13:55 GMT -5
Considering the fact that Roddy Piper, Curt Hennig, Rick Rude, Owen Hart, Razor Ramon, Ted DiBiase and other more talented wrestlers never held a world heavyweight championship belt while wrestling in the WWF, I highly doubt Jeff Jarrett would be a champion in the WWF/E. He was good enough for the midcard but way too dull to be in the main event picture.
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Post by impzilla on Apr 4, 2010 17:16:05 GMT -5
Jarrett would have made a great WWF champion. He had all the tools and charisma to make a great foil for Austin. Give Jarrett a similar run as to what JBL received a few years later and people would be viewing Jarrett in a completely different light. Well JBL's run as champion was what made ,me finally stop watching WWE full time in 2005. So if that's 'viewing Jarrett in a different light' ,many more would switch the channel also. Giving Jarrett the championship may have then lead to WCW winning the war. As Iam sure Iam not the only one who stopped watching because of JBL. What you did in 2005 has no reflection on the era in question. When Austin was in his heyday, people were tuning in by the millions to watch him beat down anyone. Jarrett had the skills to be a smug yet cowardly champion that these same people would have loved to watch get his comeuppance.
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Post by Jiren on Apr 4, 2010 17:22:15 GMT -5
I say yes, I always liked Jeff Jarrett.
But for me I would have prefered he had this music.
I loved this theme
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