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Post by Schattenjager on Apr 7, 2010 9:32:27 GMT -5
There is no way anyone of at least average intelligence would ever think that is in any way, shape or form, real. Period.
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Post by Brickstone Kid on Apr 7, 2010 13:00:33 GMT -5
Well, my four year old brother and 80 something year old grandma still think it's real. And though my grandma likes faces and hates heels, my brother is a different story. His favorite wrestlers are Rey Mysterio (of course), Cody Rhodes (?), Ted Dibiase (?), Triple H, and Kane. The Undertaker scares him sometimes ("How does he get in the ring so fast?"), and he hates Christian and Sheamus.
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Post by thesunbeast on Apr 7, 2010 13:57:47 GMT -5
There is no way anyone of at least average intelligence would ever think that is in any way, shape or form, real. Period. Well, don't know how serious the quote is, but to be fair, extremely over the top promo's don't necessarily make the sport fake. Like Muhammad Ali, then Mike Tyson after him, and Rampage Jackson today, all cut some extremely over the top promos as a part of a real sport. Also, since wrestling is half fake, for every one thing that you can show me that will speak "there's no way that's real" I can show you one thing that speaks "there's no way that's fake". And so it keeps the suspicion alive, because no one knows what's real and what's fake. Everyone can be proven wrong unless you are actually trained yourself (because things actually change in the business to keep it updated). You have your people who think it's all fake, and they'd be proven wrong by the real stuff, and you have your people who think it's all real and they get proven wrong by the fake stuff. Then, you have your people who think that the real stuff is fake and the fake stuff is real, like using ketchup for blood but faking an injury being real, and ofcourse, getting proven wrong on both. the only way to not be a "mark" is to know the real to be real and the fake to be fake, and that takes a level of inside knowlege that you have to pay for at a school. So the 4 year old "mark" is the same as the 40 year old "mark". On a side note, I don't mind extremely "unrealistic" over-the-topness, especially in promos, and as a matter of fact, I enjoy it, so long as the wrestler is good. One of the things I love saying when certain things happen in the wrestling business is "it isn't fake if you can back it up. I loved the over the topness of pro wrestling when I was a kid and I still do today, so long as they can back it up. It makes people realize that just because you can't do something, that doesn't mean that someone else can't either. And what I've always found is that most of the people who cry "fake! fake!" are people who do so out of jealousy. Like all those times that Hogan spoke of "tearing the seas apart" for a PPV and stuff like that, if you equate seas with people flocking to the arena's, then Hogan backed that up for sure. Or if Undertaker's gimmick was that he get's hit in the head with chairs and no-sells them, well, Undertaker was really able to take chairshots and no sell them for real, being that tough in real life, and so all of the jealous people crying "fake chair!" look dumb. That's what I love about the pro wrestling business, over-the-top characters who can back up their charactor because of their dedication to the business. That's why WWE has these people because of the type of system that they have, the cream rise to the top.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Apr 7, 2010 17:35:47 GMT -5
They're VERY real, and many can be found posting in the TNA section of this very board.
Ah, I kid. Kind of.
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Post by celticjobber on Apr 7, 2010 17:39:30 GMT -5
I think most people who watch it realize it's not a "legit" sport and its been that way since atleast the Attitude era. But most other wrestling fans I know don't get online to read news or post about it.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 7, 2010 18:21:01 GMT -5
If by "mark" you mean fans who honestly believe it's real, they've long since disappeared for the most part.
And fans are gradually becoming more "hip", so I'd say they're disappearing in that sense as well.
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Post by wwefan78 on Apr 7, 2010 19:36:36 GMT -5
Everyone who enjoys wrestling just as a pure entertaimentform without analyzing it to death is a mark. Basicly people who don't care what goes on backstage and don't get bent out of shape if someone gets buried or is jobbed out because they have the HEATZ. These people just see it in the context of a wrestlingshow and judge the characters after who wins and who loses. Sometimes I feel it would be sweet to be a real mark. Obviously that would mean avoiding spoilers, dirtsheets and coming here to overanalyze every single detail of every show. Nah, I can't go back, but for a while there before IWC polluted my mind - ignorance was truly a bliss
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Post by Real Folk Bruce on Apr 7, 2010 19:38:48 GMT -5
Between the rise of MMA and the overall hokie-ness of the current product, I highly doubt even the most naive wrestling fan today will ever think that it's real.
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Post by Tapout on Apr 7, 2010 19:43:35 GMT -5
They're VERY real, and many can be found posting in the TNA section of this very board. Ah, I kid. Kind of. All kidding aside, now that the interwebs have bred a new brand of smart mark, there's a new kind of kayfabe to fool interweb fans. See: Michael Cole turning heel on NXT; See also: Mickie James "getting punished" for her weight. Who's there at WWE to help manufacture it? One of the most savvy interweb wrestling fans there is, Joey Styles. If I needed someone to work the interweb fans, I can't think of a better guy to have on board to help out.
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