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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2010 2:23:34 GMT -5
Honestly, I'm fine with MVP where he is. He had his shot and he didn't make it to the main event scene, and really he's too old to be worth the time and effort.
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Post by THRJamesAngelo on Apr 13, 2010 2:35:27 GMT -5
I would love to see MVP in the main event. I was really hoping for it to be MVP/Orton at Summerslam, but instead we got Orton/Cena for the millionth time (I also wouldve love to have seen Cena/Swagger, to go with the flow of the main eventers/mid-carder thing since we got JeriShow/Cryme Tyme)
Anyways, I am a firmly behind any sort of push for MVP. I do wish he would go back to the long sleeve attire he used to wear before teaming with Mark Henry, especially the one with the camo.
Also, I wish he could go back to how he acted when he was a heel, the only difference being that he would act that way towards heels instead of faces. Not saying he would be as good as him, but I can see him almost being like the Rock in that sense.
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Post by brocklesnar1 on Apr 13, 2010 5:26:46 GMT -5
I dont mind him and he is a good talker but i find his matches really slow and boring he gets beat up until he makes a comeback does his big clothesline face buster into the ballin elbow and then the pacemaker is a really bad finisher. it would've maybe worked when he was an over heel in 2007 but if i was the WWE i wouldn't push him to the main event because he'll only have a short couple of years cuz he's nearly 40. i'd rather push someone who has longevity like miz and morrison
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Post by The Ichi on Apr 13, 2010 5:36:52 GMT -5
I honestly think the face turn killed MVP. He was perfect as the egotistical prick that would brag about being the highest paid guy on the roster.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2010 7:14:39 GMT -5
He has some sort of heart condition that was picked up on wellness a year or two back. I think it's pretty managable (they were able to catch it in time) but it could explain why the WWE would be wary of giving MVP the extra workload and pressure that being a main eventer/face of the company entails.
Possibly MVP himself has nixed the idea and is content to remain a midcarder for the same reason?
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Apr 13, 2010 7:40:36 GMT -5
I dont mind him and he is a good talker but i find his matches really slow and boring he gets beat up until he makes a comeback does his big clothesline face buster into the ballin elbow and then the pacemaker is a really bad finisher. it would've maybe worked when he was an over heel in 2007 but if i was the WWE i wouldn't push him to the main event because he'll only have a short couple of years cuz he's nearly 40. i'd rather push someone who has longevity like miz and morrison Yeah because that age nobody worth a crap. Even though most of the biggest names in wrestling was having some of there prime years at that age. I love it how every year people that 10 years off of the age where people would retire or not be pushed. First it was 50 but now it's 40. Even though Ric Flair at 40 was basicly in his prime still. He in his 60's now. So I like for you to figure out what year 40 was for him. Look at HBK, honestly he was still one of the best in the business. Chris Benoit was about the same age when he was World Champion. Why should age mean anything when your good enough to be at that level. Who cares how long there there. If your good enough now then let them shine.
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Post by brocklesnar1 on Apr 13, 2010 9:04:11 GMT -5
I dont mind him and he is a good talker but i find his matches really slow and boring he gets beat up until he makes a comeback does his big clothesline face buster into the ballin elbow and then the pacemaker is a really bad finisher. it would've maybe worked when he was an over heel in 2007 but if i was the WWE i wouldn't push him to the main event because he'll only have a short couple of years cuz he's nearly 40. i'd rather push someone who has longevity like miz and morrison Yeah because that age nobody worth a crap. Even though most of the biggest names in wrestling was having some of there prime years at that age. I love it how every year people that 10 years off of the age where people would retire or not be pushed. First it was 50 but now it's 40. Even though Ric Flair at 40 was basicly in his prime still. He in his 60's now. So I like for you to figure out what year 40 was for him. Look at HBK, honestly he was still one of the best in the business. Chris Benoit was about the same age when he was World Champion. Why should age mean anything when your good enough to be at that level. Who cares how long there there. If your good enough now then let them shine. I agree that HBK and Flair will still in there primes and the best workers around. But IMO MVP isn't that great of a worker now, he seems very slow and boring so i only see him going downhill from here unless he pulls an Undertaker and gets better with age
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 13, 2010 11:00:34 GMT -5
MVP bores the shit outta me honestly. He's 'ok' as a heel, but bland as all get out as a face.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Apr 13, 2010 12:51:50 GMT -5
Booker T, Randy Savage, Bret Hart and Batista were all mid-late 30s at least when they got their breaks, and Batista was hardly a fantastic worker, if you book it right, it'll work, I miss the heel MVP with the tunnel, with cheerleaders etc.
If I'm honest, I'd push him before Miz/Morrison because he has less time, say, 5 years as a main eventer, whereas with young guys, as we've seen with Cena and Orton, you can write yourself into a corner by having them at that level so long you run out of stuff for them to do and it gets boring.
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Post by Jason on Apr 13, 2010 13:07:04 GMT -5
MVP got that heart condition cured a few years ago, I was thinking he might have been content with being a midcarder but I doubt it. Just read an interview from a few months back and he said "Hopefully the promos and matches we deliver in this feud will get us both to main event status." (on the Miz feud).
R-Truth to Raw for MVP to Smackdown seems like a fair deal to me in the draft.
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Post by mike5286 on Apr 14, 2010 7:58:40 GMT -5
I could see MVP going to Smackdown in the draft and being the Intercontinental Title Picture.
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Post by 'Downtown' Mike Brown! on Apr 14, 2010 8:50:06 GMT -5
MVP bores the s*** outta me honestly. He's 'ok' as a heel, but bland as all get out as a face. This. He's not interesting and his ringwork is sub-par. He's also banned in Japan, lol.
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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Apr 14, 2010 8:53:21 GMT -5
MVP bores the s*** outta me honestly. He's 'ok' as a heel, but bland as all get out as a face. This. He's not interesting and his ringwork is sub-par. He's also banned in Japan, lol. To be fair though, its not like the WWE goes there very often, is it?
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 14, 2010 10:22:12 GMT -5
I like him a lot, and hope he makes it, but if MVP deserves to be in the ME, so do Miz, Morrison and Matt Hardy.
Miz is better on the mic, more over with the crowd, better in the ring and just as marketable.
Morrison and Matt are more marketable, better in the ring and not too far behind on the mic.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 14, 2010 11:39:32 GMT -5
I like him a lot, and hope he makes it, but if MVP deserves to be in the ME, so do Miz, Morrison and Matt Hardy. Miz is better on the mic, more over with the crowd, better in the ring and just as marketable. Morrison and Matt are more marketable, better in the ring and not too far behind on the mic. I understand when you say Miz is better in the mic But MVP is a way better than Miz inside the ring,he was way more skills than Miz,and also way better than Morrison and Matt at the mic
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Apr 14, 2010 13:53:25 GMT -5
Totally agree! I mean how come Seamus and jack Swagger could be World Champions and not MVP? Makes no sense at all at least MVP has a cool gimmick and can actually talk on the mic without looking horrible. I will never forgive WWE for missing the boat on MVP. Period. I started really noticing his skills in 2007, and figured in a few years, he'd be at the top of the pile. Well, I was right about that, but WWE didn't take advantage of a good thing, and they have pretty much wasted what could have been a very fresh and fun program between MVP and heel Orton. WWE, you'll push a guy who has a lisp, and a dude (Sheamus) with no credibility to be world champs, but MVP gets to job for 3 months straight and tag with Kool-Aid Henry? Seriously, wtf man? Just another large reason why I'm 98% turned off of the WWE product nowadays.
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Apr 14, 2010 14:29:44 GMT -5
MVP bores the s*** outta me honestly. He's 'ok' as a heel, but bland as all get out as a face. This. He's not interesting and his ringwork is sub-par. He's also banned in Japan, lol. He has addressed this rumor before in an interview, and said that it was false. Also, subpar and uninteresting compared to who? Cena? Batista? Themselves multiple time WWE champions who's characters have been done to death before? MVP is subpar in the ring? Wow, I just don't get that one. One of the best pure wrestling matches I saw in the last 5 years in WWE terms, was him vs Benoit at Mania 23. If he is given time, and a quality opponent, I see him as damn good in the ring compared to almost 80% of the roster who are considered to be the top guys.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 14, 2010 15:56:36 GMT -5
I understand when you say Miz is better in the mic But MVP is a way better than Miz inside the ring,he was way more skills than Miz,and also way better than Morrison and Matt at the mic Six months ago I'd agree with you, but Miz's overall improvement in the ring has come on in leaps and bounds since then. His all-round in-ring game is, IMHO, better than MVP's. Part of that is the face-heel dynamic. Heels generally lead the match, allowing for the big face comeback. MVP plays the heel better than he plays the face, and tends to lose the crowd. Miz simply keeps the crowd interested more consistantly. Can't argume with him being better than Matt or Morrison on the mic though, but both are competant enough to be on the same level.
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