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Post by arthuradams2002 on Apr 23, 2010 21:44:02 GMT -5
You have had the Elimination Chamber and Hell in a Cell for a while. Over time, a regular match has seemed less special. I remember when they did cage matches at Taboo Tuesday, and it has a "just a cage match" fell to it.
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Post by allenfan69 on Apr 23, 2010 21:46:57 GMT -5
I like the standard cage matches, especially when they're "escape only". Where you get the drama of trying to stop the guy from getting out the door or over the top. Or like the Hogan-Orndorff SNME match where it was a photo-finish. Or the Flair-Kerry Von Erich match where Michael Hayes waffled Kerry in the head with the door.
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Post by ♥ Bunnyslinger ♥ on Apr 23, 2010 21:47:45 GMT -5
Well that's just it, isn't it? It is just another match because they have too many of them, at least in my opinion, something isn't special when you see it too often.
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Post by FailedGimmick on Apr 23, 2010 21:48:08 GMT -5
For me? About the time TNA started doing Lockdown.
A PPV filled with nothing but Cage Matches kind of makes them lose their appeal.
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Post by EJS on Apr 23, 2010 21:48:52 GMT -5
Once Hell in a Cell was introduced.
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Post by Long Live the Stream on Apr 23, 2010 21:49:15 GMT -5
Standard cage match? When Mick Foley got thrown off the cell. At that instant, the Cage match wasn't good enough anymore for the average fan.
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Post by arthuradams2002 on Apr 23, 2010 21:51:12 GMT -5
My opinion, when the cage match became a "tv match" while hell in a cell and the elimination chamber become the ppv blowoff matches. It is hard to go back and make the cage match a "PPV match". Back in the day, you would see a cage match on occasion for a SNME or MSG show, but you didn't see a lot of cage matches on regular tv.
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Post by oafman on Apr 23, 2010 22:25:23 GMT -5
Cage Match is still cool with me, especially if it's used for the right reasons. Not just HURR DURR LETS PUT THESE TWO DUDES IN A CAGE FOR NO REASON IN A 6 MAN TAG HUA HUA
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Post by sniper47 on Apr 25, 2010 19:39:35 GMT -5
I preferred the old blue-barred cage matches. Wire mesh doesn't look as damaging and, to me, is crap.
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Post by boomhauer20055 on Apr 26, 2010 1:36:45 GMT -5
when they switched the cage for Hogan and Bundy
The big blue cage
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Apr 26, 2010 1:58:27 GMT -5
I'd argue that the Elimination Chamber really did it in. Sure, the HIAC demoted the cage match's status considerably, but cage matches did not automatically become meaningless after the fact. They were still treated as a pretty big deal for mid-card feuds, and were still used at PPVs regularly. However, following the EC's introduction in 2002, you then had two huge, gimmicky cage matches that completely dwarfed the original concept and diminished its "big time" feel.
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Post by Renslayer on Apr 26, 2010 2:06:07 GMT -5
I think that HIAC and the EC did it in, much like TLC did in the regular ladder match IMO. If there's something new and flashy, what interest would you have in a stipulation that isn't as dangerous as the Elimination Chamber?
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Post by perpetualn00b on Apr 26, 2010 3:41:19 GMT -5
When the escape finish became more common then a regular pinfall.
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Post by noleafclover1980 on Apr 26, 2010 3:59:18 GMT -5
Pretty much w/ the advent of HIAC. They put a cage match on steroids for the big, balls out, feud ender martch.
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Post by luiscurse on Apr 26, 2010 4:05:23 GMT -5
It contracted AIDS from the Punjabi Prison cage. ;D
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Post by wwerules60 on Apr 26, 2010 4:10:38 GMT -5
Because they do these lame contrived spots in them every time, like tonight Jericho could have just taken two steps and won, but he went back in to do more damage, just like every cage match now. And it just looks so stupid when someone is climbs pretty much over the top and the other guy miraculously grabs him and pulls him all the way back in the cage.
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Post by Papa shango on Apr 26, 2010 7:04:34 GMT -5
When the changed the rules to allow a pinfall victory, instead of the wrestlers having to escape.
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Post by Totorob101 on Apr 26, 2010 7:41:12 GMT -5
Cage matches just restrict the action and all the good spots in them have been done time and time again,same old trying get out of the cage,slamming someones head into the cage...Theres just not much else they can do in a traditional cage match anymore as we have seen them so many times over the years.
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Post by Wii M Punk on Apr 26, 2010 8:19:48 GMT -5
For me, I stopped caring about the cage when they loosened the emphasis on the "escape" rule and instead pinning your opponent and making them submit seemed to be the norm way to win these matches.
I always feel the cage match should be solely decided by escaping the cage, over the top.
None of this through the door nonsense.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 26, 2010 8:37:29 GMT -5
When like most other gimmick matches, it became rediculously overused.
Remember when gimmick matches were feud enders? I miss that...
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