Edge, Christian, Matt, Jeff

[bob]

What killed Matt was his heel turn against Jeff.

[cabbageboy]

Yeah that heel run was horrid and led to nothing of note. WWE even put him over Jeff and no one cared. The thing is Matt's 2003 heel run was as a silly comedy act heel with Shannon Moore as his lackey. No one cares about a serious heel Matt Hardy.

I still think Christian could get a push. The recent trade to SD could put him somewhere in the top mix vs. Swagger at least. But Matt? He's done. In fact he was done the moment he cut that hideous promo on Edge upon his 2005 return. At least in terms of being a top guy. Anyone who thinks this McIntyre feud will get him over is living in a fool's paradise. Matt is just there to get stomped and theoretically get McIntyre over.

[Apricots And A Pear Tree]

I liked the Matt/Jeff fued especially the,I think it was a tables match,when Jeff had Matt all tied up and was going for the ladder and Matt was trying to talk him out of it."We can be the Hardy Boyz again.""Matt loves Jeff."

[GregP19]

I'm not the biggest Matt fan, but there's no denying that he's still over...Maybe if he was booked in a good feud then I'd care about him more...

On a somewhat related note I think WWE dropped the ball when at the time when they had all 4 guys under contract in 2009 to have some kind of interaction between them. I was thinking how AWESOME it would have been if at a Royal Rumble when the ring is full of 7 or 8 guys have a flury of eliminations leaving those 4 (maybe not in the final 4 tho) in the ring at each corner doing the whole staring at each other and the crowd bit while the crowd goes absolutely APES*** and JR or Cole pontificating how they all have history with one another...WOULD THAT NOT HAVE BEEN AWESOME?!?!

[Dr. T is an alien]

Matt's ECW title run was every bit as good as Christian's, if not better. That build up to his win and his feud with Henry was fried gold, or at least it was until Matt started dominating Henry every week.

[rnrk supports BLM]

I really don't think Christian's been more successful than Matt at anything other than keeping his weight under control.

Doesn't Matt still sell shitloads of merchandise for WWE?

[Dr. T is an alien]

Apr 29, 2010 18:53:49 GMT -5 rnrk supports BLM said:

I really don't think Christian's been more successful than Matt at anything other than keeping his weight under control.

Doesn't Matt still sell s***loads of merchandise for WWE?

He does, which is why I cannot fathom why they think that he is only good for putting over other people.

They can keep saying that Matt fails to take advantage of the pushes that he does get, but he has often been undercut by "creative". His most recent heel turn was going alright until he broke his hand. Had he been on Smackdown at the time, it might have been alright, but he was blessed with being handled by the monkeys that Steph has righting for Raw. Seriously, those guys would have screwed up Hogan/Andre. Instead of being an angry and already dangerous wrestler that now has a portable weapon, he was made into the next coming of Iron Mike Sharpe, complete with Sharpe's losing streak. He went from a guy who repeatedly beat former world champs (Jeff, Punk, and Rey) on Smackdown to a guy that could not beat friggin Hornswaggle.

[allenfan69]

Apr 29, 2010 17:37:50 GMT -5 Tapout said:

This topic again?

As for Matt Hardy the main eventer, that ship sailed with Edge/Lita. He will never be hotter and more over than he was then, and he blew it.

This.

Matt was never going to get a more golden opportunity to propel himself to big things than when he came back to get revenge on Edge and Lita. But the interview he did with the "car crash" comment just killed it dead. Edge even did his promo better than Matt did in a rebuttal form, where he corrected him on what he should have said. Something to the effect of "if I were you, I wouldn't want me in a car crash...I'd want to rip you limb from limb in the middle of the ring."

It was hard to really buy into the feud after that.