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Post by Baixo Astral on Apr 26, 2010 10:04:16 GMT -5
Bear with me - would anyone except for me love a genuinely terrifying piece of music for a ring entrance?
I submit to you "Seven Notes in Black" from the Lucio Fulci movie of the same name, from about 0.25 of this video onwards.
I would love an indy gimmick (would never fly in WWE) of a guy who comes to the ring in a business suit, but covered in dried blook, with crazy designs on one side of his face, and a totally emotionless and brutal style of wrestling.
Then, when he's annihilated people, he drags them to the back, and when they are next seen, they're clearly traumatized.
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Post by Doctor Tull-eus S. Venture on Apr 26, 2010 10:39:01 GMT -5
Bear with me - would anyone except for me love a genuinely terrifying piece of music for a ring entrance? I submit to you "Seven Notes in Black" from the Lucio Fulci movie of the same name, from about 0.25 of this video onwards. I would love an indy gimmick (would never fly in WWE) of a guy who comes to the ring in a business suit, but covered in dried blook, with crazy designs on one side of his face, and a totally emotionless and brutal style of wrestling. Then, when he's annihilated people, he drags them to the back, and when they are next seen, they're clearly traumatized. I could appreciate something like that. I'd even go as far as to add a couple of random henchmen, dressed like the Hunters from Hostel (red shirts, black leather aprons, masks) that help drag the victims off. And, as you mentioned before, this brutal mystery man would rough them up so badly in the ring, that they would be physically unable to get away, making it seem that much more terrifying. |
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Post by edtheripper on Apr 28, 2010 7:42:01 GMT -5
That would be pretty damn cool IMO.
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Post by Azrael from Outerspace on Apr 28, 2010 11:58:49 GMT -5
While i like your idea in principle (i think you can find a better song) it just wouldn't work in any company with a small roster. I mean how many guys does this dude abduct before somebody steps up to stop him? Is he a porn torturer where he just gets kicks from watching guys squirm? I understand the imagination would be what you want people to use as not telling them is worse then telling them, but if you have a bit more depth i would be interested in reading.
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Post by Dragonfly on Apr 28, 2010 13:08:12 GMT -5
A few years back, Ohio-based wrestler Ray Rowe actually attempted to work a gimmick similar to the one proposed above. For those who have no idea who I'm talking about, he's this guy:  Rowe can best be described as a combination of ECW-era Taz and Doug Williams, only covered in tattoos. His finishers are the Chaos Theory and a running knee to the back of the head referred to as the "Death Rowe." Each show, he would come out wearing the black hat and the bandanna, annihilate his opponent, and leave. Sometimes he would take the person "with him," sometimes he wouldn't. After a month or two of this, Rowe would finally run into an opponent that he could not completely dominate. At that point, someone a person an identical black cap/bandanna combo would pop out of the crowd to help him. Afterward, the person would then "disappear into the crowd." The "victim" would then get the Death Rowe and be drug off. According an interview with Ray Rowe, the people doing the run-ins would not actually be wrestlers. Instead, his "army" - it had a name, but I honestly don't remember what it was - would be a combination of plants in the audience and fans that he knew well. The general idea was anyone, even the person you were talking to in the ticket line, could be in league with him, thereby "blurring the line" between wrestling and reality. It would, in theory anyway, also make Rowe look even more like a monster. Sadly, the angle was scrapped after the promoter (I think it was for Ohio Indy AIW, but don't quote me) wanted to turn it into the NWO. |
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Post by Baixo Astral on Apr 28, 2010 13:20:28 GMT -5
Sadly, the angle was scrapped after the promoter (I think it was for Ohio Indy AIW, but don't quote me) wanted to turn it into the NWO. Too late. While i like your idea in principle (i think you can find a better song) it just wouldn't work in any company with a small roster. I mean how many guys does this dude abduct before somebody steps up to stop him? Is he a porn torturer where he just gets kicks from watching guys squirm? I understand the imagination would be what you want people to use as not telling them is worse then telling them, but if you have a bit more depth i would be interested in reading. Actually, I mainly thought of the gimmick because I've been listening to that song a lot (it's my ringtone right now). Most indies I've been to see don't have a big roster, but if they've been around more than a few months, they'll have an early roster of total local scrubs who fall by the wayside - you'd have him do his crazy crap to them for a few shows, before moving on to real roster members. Think of it as being RoH, and he starts off in matches with Special K members, Dunn and Marcos, etc. Of course, eventually, he does it the wrong person, and gets the attention of a name wrestler - if there was any way for it to be an incoming star who'd do a shocking job, that'd be awesome. Of course, as is usually my problem, it's only thought through to a certain point - there is no motivation - if someone could come up with one, that'd be great. For some reason, I'm thinking of Falling Down, with him being a guy who fell through the cracks in society ("Not Economically Viable"), and was driven crazy by it. |
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Post by Chainsaw on Apr 28, 2010 15:06:43 GMT -5
A few years back, Ohio-based wrestler Ray Rowe actually attempted to work a gimmick similar to the one proposed above. For those who have no idea who I'm talking about, he's this guy: Rowe can best be described as a combination of ECW-era Taz and Doug Williams, only covered in tattoos. His finishers are the Chaos Theory and a running knee to the back of the head referred to as the "Death Rowe." Each show, he would come out wearing the black hat and the bandanna, annihilate his opponent, and leave. Sometimes he would take the person "with him," sometimes he wouldn't. After a month or two of this, Rowe would finally run into an opponent that he could not completely dominate. At that point, someone a person an identical black cap/bandanna combo would pop out of the crowd to help him. Afterward, the person would then "disappear into the crowd." The "victim" would then get the Death Rowe and be drug off. According an interview with Ray Rowe, the people doing the run-ins would not actually be wrestlers. Instead, his "army" - it had a name, but I honestly don't remember what it was - would be a combination of plants in the audience and fans that he knew well. The general idea was anyone, even the person you were talking to in the ticket line, could be in league with him, thereby "blurring the line" between wrestling and reality. It would, in theory anyway, also make Rowe look even more like a monster. Sadly, the angle was scrapped after the promoter (I think it was for Ohio Indy AIW, but don't quote me) wanted to turn it into the NWO. Sounds a little bit like what the AOTF was doing with it's fans before they officially went public. Not the kidnapping thing, but the thing with the fans. And reading this, it makes me wish there was a Patrick Bateman gimmick out there, kind of a mix between The Million Dollar Man and Raven. |
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Post by Azrael from Outerspace on Apr 28, 2010 16:11:28 GMT -5
Sadly, the angle was scrapped after the promoter (I think it was for Ohio Indy AIW, but don't quote me) wanted to turn it into the NWO. Too late. While i like your idea in principle (i think you can find a better song) it just wouldn't work in any company with a small roster. I mean how many guys does this dude abduct before somebody steps up to stop him? Is he a porn torturer where he just gets kicks from watching guys squirm? I understand the imagination would be what you want people to use as not telling them is worse then telling them, but if you have a bit more depth i would be interested in reading. Actually, I mainly thought of the gimmick because I've been listening to that song a lot (it's my ringtone right now). Most indies I've been to see don't have a big roster, but if they've been around more than a few months, they'll have an early roster of total local scrubs who fall by the wayside - you'd have him do his crazy crap to them for a few shows, before moving on to real roster members. Think of it as being RoH, and he starts off in matches with Special K members, Dunn and Marcos, etc. Of course, eventually, he does it the wrong person, and gets the attention of a name wrestler - if there was any way for it to be an incoming star who'd do a shocking job, that'd be awesome. Of course, as is usually my problem, it's only thought through to a certain point - there is no motivation - if someone could come up with one, that'd be great. For some reason, I'm thinking of Falling Down, with him being a guy who fell through the cracks in society ("Not Economically Viable"), and was driven crazy by it. I don't mind the song, the Kill Bill soundtrack is great. I just think for a gimmick like this you need something a bit more dark. As for the idea, i can dig it but if you're going down a serial killer path then the people he abducts after matches should all fit a certain build like guys with blond hair or who are 5'10 and 3/4. I do think you could pull it off but this guy would have to be built up strong. But if you got into the psychology of it this could be interesting. |
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Post by Baixo Astral on Apr 29, 2010 4:06:31 GMT -5
No, he's not supposed to be a serial killer, as such - just a violent sociopath, possibly even schizo.
And I tried to go with something atypical for wrestling, mainly cos I'm sick of the standard rock/metal wrestling music.
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Post by Azrael from Outerspace on Apr 29, 2010 12:51:52 GMT -5
No, he's not supposed to be a serial killer, as such - just a violent sociopath, possibly even schizo. And I tried to go with something atypical for wrestling, mainly cos I'm sick of the standard rock/metal wrestling music. Violent sociopath sounds like a serial killer to me  . Of course it's a wrestling character but it sounds like wrestling is just a break between torturing animals and humans. I don't know, i got your idea in my head and took it another direction lol. I like it though just from the psychology stand point. I hear you on the music, i'd probably just change it up with a piece from Planet Terror as that sound track has some awesome stuff on it. |
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Post by Ash Whenzday on Apr 29, 2010 20:35:23 GMT -5
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