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Post by -Lithium- on Sept 11, 2006 18:20:41 GMT -5
To know that wrestling will prolly never be as big or as exciting as it was in the Attitude Era?
They just had so many huge stars then and had something for everyone.
Come on, Carlito is no where as exciting as The Rock, Orton is no HHH(2000), and Cena got nothing on Austin. Dont forget we also had Taker, Angle, Kane, and Mankind. All the great tag teams were around...
It just sucks to know we most likely wont ever have something as intense and exciting as Austin stomping on the top of a HIAC on a RAW and stuff like that.
God I wish I was older then so I coulda really experienced and have a better memory of it...
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Post by Friday Night Kearney! on Sept 11, 2006 18:23:02 GMT -5
It could get hot again & the future looks very bright for Wrestling but WWE basically owns Wrestling in the US & UK so it's really whatever they do.
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Post by -Lithium- on Sept 11, 2006 18:24:09 GMT -5
Sure it can get hot, but I seriously doubt the characters of today can match up to those of the Attitude Era...
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Post by peopleschamp on Sept 11, 2006 18:25:40 GMT -5
Lack of Competition has dampened the enthusiasm. The Monday Night Wars Made Wrestling Hot Without a Doubt and Spawned the Talent.
With WWE Monopolising the Market, it wont be until a Federation comes around again that has the money and the TV Time to Compete with them that it begins to pick up that momentum again.
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Post by EJS on Sept 11, 2006 18:30:09 GMT -5
No it is not. Especially since that's likely untrue. And really because I don't care how many people watch the shows.
The attitude era was good, but I didn't really care for how matches on Raw were usually super short. At least now there's longer matches (though Raw does fall back into that 3 minute match trend a lot more than Smackdown does).
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Post by MiLo Duck on Sept 11, 2006 18:32:23 GMT -5
Ofcourse it can be good again. Vince can't go on for ever.
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Sept 11, 2006 18:34:00 GMT -5
There won't be another Attitude era, true. But there will be something down the road that could equal or excell the Attitude era and get everybody right back into it. In the meantime there are several indy feds that are fun and have great matches. Japan is loaded with 'em. Youtube is your friend.
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Post by gorydaze on Sept 11, 2006 18:34:22 GMT -5
Not really, IMO match quality is better in 2006 overall than it was in 1999. People complain about squash/short matches nowadays but that's really all there was in 1999.
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Post by peopleschamp on Sept 11, 2006 18:35:54 GMT -5
Some Would Say Thursday Nights Altered Wrestling too with the addition of wCw Thunder and WWF Smackdown! Though Thunder may have overexposed and watered down the wCw Talent Pool, Smackdown! Certainly helped to Maintain the Attitude Era.
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Post by EJS on Sept 11, 2006 18:39:01 GMT -5
Not really, IMO match quality is better in 2006 overall than it was in 1999. People complain about squash/short matches nowadays but that's really all there was in 1999. For sure. And nowadays theres a ton more wrestling at your disposal on the internet than there was back then, both of the legal and illegal variety. |
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Post by gorydaze on Sept 11, 2006 18:42:17 GMT -5
The promo's aren't as good, and arguably the storylines aren't either. But you had your share of crap in the Attitude era as well. Horrendous main events with nothing but punch/kick ad nauseum. Wacky storylines like the Higher Power. If today is filled with crap, which it arguably is, you can say the same for 1999 and even 1998. 1999 more specifically though.
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Post by s2k on Sept 11, 2006 18:48:25 GMT -5
I find it odd how the two biggest boom periods in wrestling history focused more on storylines than actual wrestling matches ('80's and Attitude), yet there are people here saying 2006 is better because of more wrestling.
Longer wrestling matches is not going to start a boom period. That's what indy fans think. Pure wrestling talent has never drawn a dime in the mainstream wrestling boom periods. It has always been about over the top characters that the audience could identify with (Hogan, Piper, Andre, Savage, Austin, Rock, NWO, Goldberg, etc).
The thread starter is correct in that there are no breakout stars on the horizon, mainly because all of them probably came up through OVW and have been molded to fit the WWE style. Not to mention a lot of new talent are being saddled with one note punchline gimmicks that will run their course within 6 months. Why is there no mid-card or no capable main event? Look at the characters the WWE puts out there. There's no long-term depth to any of them.
I don't see a boom period anywhere in sight. Mainstream wrestling is NOT cyclical. There's no guarantee that another RockNWrestling or Attitude Era is on the horizon.
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Post by eightyeight on Sept 11, 2006 18:49:12 GMT -5
I loved the attitude era as I was around 14/15 at the time during the peak of it, and it was a great time for wrestling.
Whether as to it could ever be as good again, only time will tell.
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Post by EJS on Sept 11, 2006 18:50:34 GMT -5
I find it odd how the two biggest boom periods in wrestling history focused more on storylines than actual wrestling matches ('80's and Attitude), yet there are people here saying 2006 is better because of more wrestling. Longer wrestling matches is not going to start a boom period. That's what indy fans think. Pure wrestling talent has never drawn a dime in the mainstream wrestling boom periods. It has always been about over the top characters that the audience could identify with (Hogan, Piper, Andre, Savage, Austin, Rock, NWO, Goldberg, etc). The thread starter is correct in that there are no breakout stars on the horizon, mainly because all of them probably came up through OVW and have been molded to fit the WWE style. Not to mention a lot of new talent are being saddled with one note punchline gimmicks that will run their course within 6 months. Why is there no mid-card or no capable main event? Look at the characters the WWE puts out there. There's no long-term depth to any of them. I don't see a boom period anywhere in sight. Mainstream wrestling is NOT cyclical. There's no guarantee that another RockNWrestling or Attitude Era is on the horizon. I'm the people saying that, and I also said I don't give a crap about wrestling getting "popular" again. |
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Post by gorydaze on Sept 11, 2006 18:52:42 GMT -5
yea, that's something that kinda sucked. When everyone and their brother was into wrestling, it kind of lost its luster for me. Even kids who would bash on it would turn around and be talking about Raw some day. So I'm with Hades in that I really don't care if it becomes hugely popular again. I'm happy with the product right now. Not as happy as I could be, but it's really not that bad.
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Post by s2k on Sept 11, 2006 18:54:12 GMT -5
I'm the people saying that, and I also said I don't give a crap about wrestling getting "popular" again. If you enjoy the current WWE product, you won't have to worry about wrestling getting popular again. |
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Post by EJS on Sept 11, 2006 18:57:22 GMT -5
I don't enjoy everything about it, just like I didn't enjoy everything about it in 1998.
I'm just not someone who thinks 1998 was anywhere near perfect either. And the fact that it was more popular back then doesn't matter to me.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Sept 11, 2006 19:24:30 GMT -5
They tried to close the US patton office in the early 1900s because there was no way nothing else could be invented.........think about it.
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Post by bwo4life on Sept 11, 2006 20:12:44 GMT -5
The whole reason the product was better back at that time was because there were 2 major companies (possibly a third depending on who you ask) pushing to have dominance. Until another federation rises that can compete with Vince (which is no time soon, sorry TNA) we will not have a period like that Attitude era.
But outside of Vince-land, I think the indy scene is better. We have groups like RoH, CZW, CHIKARA, IWA: Mid-South, etc., who are pushing US wrestling in a good direction.
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