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Post by Head Detective Aaron Enigma on Sept 9, 2006 18:34:47 GMT -5
Alright, I don't know about you guys, but I am sick about one simple thing.
Why are 3 out of the 4 main champions (King Booker, Edge, Nitro) winning all their matches by cheating, or getting DQ'd?
Those 3 all have a woman beside them that gets them DQ'd when they are about to lose. I don't get it. It's not helping their credibility, especially Nitro's.
I don't hate Edge or King Booker, but I know they can wrestle, so why do they need to resort to cheating. Heels have the power to win without cheating, look at Kennedy, he's a heel technically and he never wins by cheating. He did get some DQ wins but still.
I'm just getting sick of all the DQ matches and the cheating. WWE Creative needs to realize that we don't want to see every match won by cheating or DQ.
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Post by Magneto on Sept 9, 2006 18:36:30 GMT -5
You're taking it too serious. Nitro is about to lose the title next Sunday and chances are Edge will too.
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Post by Indigocrates on Sept 9, 2006 18:38:22 GMT -5
I totally agree with you, I just don't see Edge, Nitro and Booker as credible champs anymore. It's a shame too, since they're good wrestlers and deserve better title runs than what they have now...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2006 18:40:11 GMT -5
They may be overusing the valet's interference, but the cheating isn't a big deal. Why have Edge win clean? He'll get more heat and look like a cowardly heel if Lita interfers. The fans need to hate him, not respect him for his toughness. Making him look ultra tough right now would be a mistake.
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Post by Friday Night Kearney! on Sept 9, 2006 18:41:23 GMT -5
There's too much interences/DQ'n in WWE it sometimes ruins a decent match.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Sept 9, 2006 19:20:50 GMT -5
They may be overusing the valet's interference, but the cheating isn't a big deal. Why have Edge win clean? He'll get more heat and look like a cowardly heel if Lita interfers. The fans need to hate him, not respect him for his toughness. Making him look ultra tough right now would be a mistake. or he could gain heel heat while still looking tough, which would be better for everybody |
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Post by fes1 on Sept 9, 2006 19:40:44 GMT -5
Its in the script, dont tell anybody.
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Post by American Nightmare on Sept 9, 2006 19:45:41 GMT -5
heels win by cheating. the whole point of psycology is to make the face look almost unbeatable, but that the only way a heel can gain the advantage is through underhanded tactics. A great example is Flair vs Sting (or anybody for that matter).
So in that respect, i think it is fine that they win by cheating.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Sept 9, 2006 20:28:43 GMT -5
Actually, I kind of think it bizarrely annoying that 3 out of the 4 champs have valets who usually result in the DQs. It's like UnCreative is trying even LESS than usual.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2006 20:55:58 GMT -5
In the WWE, heels almost always cheat to win.
Nothing new there.
Occasionally they're pretty weak though. Like the Booker/Batista match where Sharmell just runs in the ring and flails around being stupid causing a DQ win...that was incredibly lame.
If they're gonna cheat, at least have it be cheating leading to hitting the finisher or a rollup or something...
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Post by acropolis619 on Sept 9, 2006 21:02:07 GMT -5
I don't mind when a heel uses a weapon or grabs the tights or whatever as much as I dislike the valets and lackeys coming out and getting him DQ'd. Before the Evolution run I was a pretty big Triple H mark, but after ppv after ppv of ric flair or whoever simply doing a run in with the 4th evolution member (sledgy), I turned on ol' Paul and almost went against the entire WWE during that year. I'm only now getting used to cheerin' for trips again, and i'm once again gettin pretty sick of the same damned finish to every match. At least the Edge/Cena thing is TLC so we won't have to worry too much THERE.
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Post by x on Sept 9, 2006 21:09:29 GMT -5
Heels are supposed to cheat to win. If they were good and followed all of the rules then they wouldn't be heels.
In a feud you have to either keep it really even (I.E. Best of 7 feuds) or have a heel get a whole bunch of cheap wins and then have the face win clean at the big event. If a heel won clean in a title match then the feud would be pointless because it wouldn't make sense. A heel should only win clean if he is higher up on the card or is getting put over in the feud.
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Post by Rick Mad on Sept 9, 2006 21:12:16 GMT -5
Did Triple H as a heel always have to cheat to win?
Yes, he did sometimes, but not NEAR to the extent that Edge and etc. do. Especially big PPV matches. And Triple H is seen as one of the best heels in the business, generally, and everything. So.. yeah.
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Post by acropolis619 on Sept 9, 2006 21:20:10 GMT -5
Did Triple H as a heel always have to cheat to win? Yes, he did sometimes, but not NEAR to the extent that Edge and etc. do. Especially big PPV matches. And Triple H is seen as one of the best heels in the business, generally, and everything. So.. yeah. I don't know dude, I remember that from the inception of Evolution all the way to the Nash Heel in a Cell, Trips didn't get a single clean win in a ppv. |
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Post by Dean-o on Sept 9, 2006 22:02:51 GMT -5
Heels cheat. It's what they do. They want the crowd to hate them, not say "You know, Edge can take on anybody without a worry. I'm going to start supporting him" you know?
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