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Post by Sad sack ass fruitbooty on Dec 10, 2007 16:04:08 GMT -5
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Dec 10, 2007 16:10:16 GMT -5
Man, big Kev really was always bad in the ring.
Ron was working his butt off to carry the chicken-legged goof. Whose idea was it to put him in those bright yellow tights? Big muscular torso on matchsticks.
Did they sign off the gimmick or did Oz just disappear until he was repackaged as Vinnie Vegas?
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Post by hypnoticgenes on Dec 10, 2007 16:19:13 GMT -5
Whats with Simmons' jerri curl?
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Post by Cheeba on Dec 10, 2007 19:01:32 GMT -5
I always thought that Oz's match with Simmons was his last also, but apparently it wasn't. He appeared in the opening battle royal at this show: www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJkYljiGa5w |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 11, 2007 7:56:43 GMT -5
Whats with Simmons' jerri curl? That was his hair style at the time. |
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Post by Jared Has Been Enlightened :) on Dec 11, 2007 11:55:21 GMT -5
Man, big Kev really was always bad in the ring. Ron was working his butt off to carry the chicken-legged goof. Whose idea was it to put him in those bright yellow tights? Big muscular torso on matchsticks. Did they sign off the gimmick or did Oz just disappear until he was repackaged as Vinnie Vegas? He's 7' 330 pounds, he's not suppose to be a great wrestler. He's suppose to be an ass kicker, which he was. Of course he also happens to be one of the 10 most charismatic wrestlers of all-time. |
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Dec 11, 2007 12:10:58 GMT -5
Man, big Kev really was always bad in the ring. Ron was working his butt off to carry the chicken-legged goof. Whose idea was it to put him in those bright yellow tights? Big muscular torso on matchsticks. Did they sign off the gimmick or did Oz just disappear until he was repackaged as Vinnie Vegas? He's 7' 330 pounds, he's not suppose to be a great wrestler. He's suppose to be an ass kicker, which he was. Of course he also happens to be one of the 10 most charismatic wrestlers of all-time. I`m not denying he is charismatic and had an influence on the industry like few others. I don`t expect him to be Bret Hart or Shawn Michaels, but I do expect a big man "asskicker" to have a decent moveset, and some intensity to sell his character. He is slow and unreliable without another wrestler to carry him. Jim Cornette summed it up best when he was talking about helping Glen Jacobs to be fake Diesel. "I only had to teach him 5 moves, 6 if you count stopping to push his hair back" I`m a workrate and skill mark I admit, but I`m a huge admirier of other big men, such as Undertaker and Andre. I just have never thought much of Nash in ring. I can`t think of one match of his that was good to watch without a superior wrestler carrying him. |
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Post by fg76 on Dec 11, 2007 12:54:32 GMT -5
Nash used to have the persona and selling skills, ala Hogan, but in a heel way. I think he still had it in WCW sometimes, and could have gotten it back in 2003 if he wanted it, but basically 'coasted' thru his last year since Vince wouldn't elevate him anyways.
I mean check out his matches with Sid. Maybe bad by the workrate freaks, but Nash carried those matches with fast paced brawling hands down and his overdramatic selling of Sid's powerbomb.
The Mable match (Summerslime - er Slam 95) was an abortion, btw, but I blame it more on Nash was unable to even put his finisher on Mable. The Bulldog match (IYH in October 1995) was boring, but I've see Taker/Austin matches that were just as bad and got better ratings from Scott Keith. Sure Bret and Shawn were truly the only ones to get something really great out of the guy, but his match with Goldberg was good (albeit a bad marketing move) and the Road Wild Hogan match was acceptable for a Hogan match.
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Dec 11, 2007 13:04:58 GMT -5
Nash used to have the persona and selling skills, ala Hogan, but in a heel way. I think he still had it in WCW sometimes, and could have gotten it back in 2003 if he wanted it, but basically 'coasted' thru his last year since Vince wouldn't elevate him anyways. I mean check out his matches with Sid. Maybe bad by the workrate freaks, but Nash carried those matches with fast paced brawling hands down and his overdramatic selling of Sid's powerbomb. The Mable match (Summerslime - er Slam 95) was an abortion, btw, but I blame it more on Nash was unable to even put his finisher on Mable. The Bulldog match (IYH in October 1995) was boring, but I've see Taker/Austin matches that were just as bad and got better ratings from Scott Keith. Sure Bret and Shawn were truly the only ones to get something really great out of the guy, but his match with Goldberg was good (albeit a bad marketing move) and the Road Wild Hogan match was acceptable for a Hogan match. I think that comes down to preferences and is a case of horses for courses. I only ever liked his matches with Bret and Shawn. Not a fan of any of his WCW matches on a technical level, but his initial NWO era matches did have great storytelling and psychology, so I got a real kick out of that. Austin and Taker didn`t have great chemistry, but they were more versatile than Nash, and both have more on an in-ring presence in my mind. As I say though, that comes down to personal preferences  |
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