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Post by JMA on May 14, 2007 1:57:19 GMT -5
Since its inception the new ECW has been...polarizing (at best). It even became the Gooker Award runner-up. There's been a backlash against the product (and not just from old ECW fans), yet there are also fans who truly like it. Based on this information, do you think the brand will ever be inducted into WrestleCrap?
I'm not asking if you think it SHOULD or SHOULDN'T be inducted. I'm asking if you think it WILL be eventually. I say "eventually" because the show could, in theory, undergo massive changes in the future and become completely different than its current incarnation.
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Post by Agent P on May 14, 2007 2:02:23 GMT -5
When/if the show ever gets cancelled.
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Post by What? on May 14, 2007 3:24:20 GMT -5
Nah. I don't think a whole promotion should ever be inducted. It's had good points and bad points just like any other. The entire WWE didn't get inducted just because of Katie Vick.
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Post by mikedh on May 14, 2007 3:39:58 GMT -5
Its one hour show has been pretty good for some time now. I would say since Smackdown is going downhill its been consistantly the best.
As for if it will or not? If it gets canned then I say yes.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2007 11:38:51 GMT -5
Probably not, not the whole show.
It could have easily been back during Gooker time, but they've had some improvements lately that move it out of wrestlecrap status at the least.
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Post by kawalimus on May 14, 2007 13:09:41 GMT -5
WHy is ECW so bad? Because it's not a carbon copy of old ECW? I think they are doing really good things with Burke, Monty Brown, CM Punk. The title scene sucks but hopefully that will change soon when one of those three gets it. It reminds me of very early Monday Night Raw, an hour show with some good wrestling and the promos are kept fairly short.
Now you have Vince saying that in-ring fundamentals will be focused on in the coming year and I think ECW will keep being a solid show. And doesn't the ownder of this site say that he doesn't induct things while they're going on because it could possibly get better?
It's also funny that people whined and cried about Heyman leaving when the show has steadily improved since his departure. He wanted Big Show to tap to CM Punk's anaconda vice which was a stupid idea.
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Post by Dynamite Kid on May 14, 2007 13:29:38 GMT -5
It's had a few moments which have redeemed it to a minor extent in my eyes. The extreme rules eight-man tag match genuinely captured the spirit of the old ECW, and for that, I forgive most of the brand.
I think that Vinne Mac having the title will be inducted eventually.
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Post by What? on May 14, 2007 13:31:30 GMT -5
I think that Vinne Mac having the title will be inducted eventually. And deservedly so.
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Post by Macho Dude Handy Damage on May 14, 2007 13:34:43 GMT -5
Ï don't think the entire promotion as a whole will be inducted, but I do think that RD will do something like he did with TNA, and induct more or less an entire time period in the promotion.
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Post by What? on May 14, 2007 13:35:37 GMT -5
I don't remember that, can anyone refresh my memory?
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Post by ALT333 on May 14, 2007 15:30:51 GMT -5
RD inducted the "early years", which included a bunch of really, really, REALLY bad gimmicks and angles like The Johnsons and Cheex.
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Post by r. on May 14, 2007 15:35:49 GMT -5
WHy is ECW so bad? Because it's not a carbon copy of old ECW?\ but why bother even calling it ecw then?, its so far removed form anything that even remotly resembles the old ecw. and Extreme Rules will no doubt be a factor for WWE cw possible induction.
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Post by American Nightmare on May 14, 2007 15:46:57 GMT -5
the first show should absolutely be inducted. It crapped all over not just the legacy of ECW, but all the people tuning in to see what was promised, a new product.
And think about it people, its dropped over a full point in ratings in less than a year. That takes work.
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Post by erwxcalibur on May 14, 2007 16:29:26 GMT -5
it absolutely deserves to be inducted, and this comes from an attitude era wwe mark so im only a casual ecw fan.
it is a complete retardation of what the company was orignally trying to accomplish. saying that is being nice considering that by definition retarted requires you to actualy possess a characteristic of something original.
whether or not its the on screen material, the backstage politics, or the fan's response to the action, I'd love to see some sort of ECW Lite induction.
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Post by kawalimus on May 14, 2007 17:10:05 GMT -5
WHy is ECW so bad? Because it's not a carbon copy of old ECW?\ but why bother even calling it ecw then?, its so far removed form anything that even remotly resembles the old ecw. and Extreme Rules will no doubt be a factor for WWE cw possible induction. It's done better at advertising their mid/undercard guys than Heat/Velocity's ever hoped to accomplish. It's working.
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Post by American Nightmare on May 14, 2007 18:01:48 GMT -5
but why bother even calling it ecw then?, its so far removed form anything that even remotly resembles the old ecw. and Extreme Rules will no doubt be a factor for WWE cw possible induction. It's done better at advertising their mid/undercard guys than Heat/Velocity's ever hoped to accomplish. It's working. advertising them as main eventers? Im sorry, but nobody is going to buy Rene Dupree, Bobby Lashley, Terkay, and even Dreamer and Sandman as main eventers just because they are on a big show. As the ratings have shown, the people watch and say "why are these guys here?"
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Post by ICBM on May 14, 2007 18:11:30 GMT -5
It should but won't. I think RD wants a job at WWE
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Post by kawalimus on May 14, 2007 18:20:10 GMT -5
It's done better at advertising their mid/undercard guys than Heat/Velocity's ever hoped to accomplish. It's working. advertising them as main eventers? Im sorry, but nobody is going to buy Rene Dupree, Bobby Lashley, Terkay, and even Dreamer and Sandman as main eventers just because they are on a big show. As the ratings have shown, the people watch and say "why are these guys here?" Holy crap what is wrong with you? I'm talking about guys like Punk, Burke, and Monty Brown. You mentioned a guy that's been released and a guy that never gets on TV. Sandman and Dreamer were only main eventers in old ECW and aren't really meant to be huge title threats. I didn't even say anything abou tmain eventers, I said advertise the talent. Punk, Burke, and Brown are GREATLY benefiting from ECW much more than they would if they were on Heat or Velocity.
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Post by r. on May 15, 2007 19:37:00 GMT -5
and coencidently all new talent has subsequently turned heel, and you have to keep in mind heat is internet only now so it does'nt reach those without comp's. but really the money would be better spent on pushing them in there other brands.
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Post by Hassan bin Sober on May 15, 2007 19:57:41 GMT -5
I demand 'extreme' in the Extreme Championship Wrestling. It has rarely been so. Induct it.
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