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Post by -Lithium- on Aug 16, 2006 0:20:58 GMT -5
I have a few friends, online and real life that arent wrestling smarks...they generally talk about the storylines, not why they are happening but the stories themselfs...
Now they arent like complete marks that cheer the good guys and boo the bad...but whenever they talk wrestling, its usually markish stuff like did Wrestler A have the right to do that...
Now, as a smark...can you sit there and talk kinda "markish" like that?
I can for one, seeing as Im inbetween(I can usually enjoy a show without worrying whats going on backstage and workrate and all that other crap)
Its fun actually...
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Post by Milkman Norm on Aug 16, 2006 0:49:49 GMT -5
yeah because that's the fun of the story. When I get into a story I can be very markish and I imagine most others feel the same way
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Aug 16, 2006 1:35:53 GMT -5
I don't actually know that many people who watch wrestling, but this one guy I talk to switches between talking like its real and its fake, sometimes in the same conversation, saying things like he knows its all "pre-determined" but then goes into serious conversations about how Undertaker just needs to work out how to get Khali off his feet, and that "Randy Orton was obviously scared of the Undertaker."
I enjoy talking about wrestling, but when it comes to talking indepth about storylines? Nah, can't do it.
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Post by Baixo Astral on Aug 16, 2006 1:59:23 GMT -5
Yeah, those silly marks... I wish they'd just get out of wrestling, so the rest of us can just watch it dwindle away to something that only takes place in high school gyms in peace.
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Post by TripleMerc on Aug 16, 2006 6:34:36 GMT -5
Depends on who I'm talking with and about what angle we're talking about, really.
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Post by Red 'n' Black Reggie on Aug 16, 2006 7:20:28 GMT -5
the big shows gonna get you
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Post by hoppinghorace1 on Aug 16, 2006 12:38:41 GMT -5
Heres my description of a scene from Pulp Fiction Smark style.
A bunch of generic no-name jobbers sit around eating junk food in an apartment when Samuel L Jackson and John Travolta, who actors I really mark for come through the door. Jackson then cuts a wicked promo on Ezekiel 25:17(The path of the righteous man) and then he and Travolta start shooting on the jobbers who all job cleanly. One of the jobbers who was hiding then comes out, cuts a short promo and starts shooting on Travolta and Jackson. Travolta and Jackson no-sell the jobbers offence and then start shooting on him. The jobber jobs cleanly and Travolta and Jackson leave the apartment.
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efarns
Don Corleone
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Post by efarns on Aug 16, 2006 13:07:48 GMT -5
That was terrible. Does anybody get over? Does the scene build any heel heat for Travolta? What kind of gimmick is Jackson using? And you've gotta throw in an un-funny reference to Travolta's former gimmick as a disco dancer. There's gotta be a stable in this story somewhere. There's gotta be a build to the big blowoff down the line. And this is a work, so nobody in the scene is shooting. They are working their shots.
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Post by hoppinghorace1 on Aug 16, 2006 13:39:29 GMT -5
That was terrible. Does anybody get over? Does the scene build any heel heat for Travolta? What kind of gimmick is Jackson using? And you've gotta throw in an un-funny reference to Travolta's former gimmick as a disco dancer. There's gotta be a stable in this story somewhere. There's gotta be a build to the big blowoff down the line. And this is a work, so nobody in the scene is shooting. They are working their shots. Apologies, I stand corrected ;D ;D ;D
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The OP
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
changed his name
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Post by The OP on Aug 16, 2006 14:17:34 GMT -5
I don't actually know that many people who watch wrestling, but this one guy I talk to switches between talking like its real and its fake, sometimes in the same conversation, saying things like he knows its all "pre-determined" but then goes into serious conversations about how Undertaker just needs to work out how to get Khali off his feet, and that "Randy Orton was obviously scared of the Undertaker." I enjoy talking about wrestling, but when it comes to talking indepth about storylines? Nah, can't do it. You would hate watching wrestling with me then, cause that's exactly what I do, the back and forth thing. I agree with Raven Michaels though, I think it makes watching a lot more fun. Different strokes I guess.
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Post by ajdynon on Aug 16, 2006 15:33:40 GMT -5
Heres my description of a scene from Pulp Fiction Smark style. A bunch of generic no-name jobbers sit around eating junk food in an apartment when Samuel L Jackson and John Travolta, who actors I really mark for come through the door. Jackson then cuts a wicked promo on Ezekiel 25:17(The path of the righteous man) and then he and Travolta start shooting on the jobbers who all job cleanly. One of the jobbers who was hiding then comes out, cuts a short promo and starts shooting on Travolta and Jackson. Travolta and Jackson no-sell the jobbers offence and then start shooting on him. The jobber jobs cleanly and Travolta and Jackson leave the apartment. Ripped off Eddie Guerrero and Booker T's Wrestlemania 21 promo.
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efarns
Don Corleone
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Post by efarns on Aug 16, 2006 15:36:03 GMT -5
I've come almost full circle to the point where I can almost slip back into being a mark. My "smark chip" only usually kicks in when something completely illogical or dumb overrides my markdom. For example: When John Cena gets beat up for fifteen minutes, does three weak moves and wins another match, my "mark" limits are stretched to the breaking point and I go smarky. But I found that wrestling isn't really any fun if I keep my brain switched on all the way.
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Post by hoppinghorace1 on Aug 16, 2006 17:42:26 GMT -5
Heres my description of a scene from Pulp Fiction Smark style. A bunch of generic no-name jobbers sit around eating junk food in an apartment when Samuel L Jackson and John Travolta, who actors I really mark for come through the door. Jackson then cuts a wicked promo on Ezekiel 25:17(The path of the righteous man) and then he and Travolta start shooting on the jobbers who all job cleanly. One of the jobbers who was hiding then comes out, cuts a short promo and starts shooting on Travolta and Jackson. Travolta and Jackson no-sell the jobbers offence and then start shooting on him. The jobber jobs cleanly and Travolta and Jackson leave the apartment. Ripped off Eddie Guerrero and Booker T's Wrestlemania 21 promo. No I didn't, It's just that Pulp Fiction was the first movie that came into my head before I wrote that post, believe it or not. I didn't even get to see Wrestlemania 21 due to my shitty freesat system.
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Post by hoppinghorace1 on Aug 16, 2006 17:53:12 GMT -5
That was terrible. Does anybody get over? Does the scene build any heel heat for Travolta? What kind of gimmick is Jackson using? And you've gotta throw in an un-funny reference to Travolta's former gimmick as a disco dancer. There's gotta be a stable in this story somewhere. There's gotta be a build to the big blowoff down the line. And this is a work, so nobody in the scene is shooting. They are working their shots. To answer your questions Travolta and Jackson got over as the no-name jobbers they shooted on put them over. Jackson and Travolta are a heel hag team with a black shirt and tie gangster gimmick. Travolta and Jackson got plenty of heel heat due to the unmerciful way they "shot " on the jobbers. Travolta did have a bad disco dancer gimmick but Jackson had a worse gimmick in a comedy tag team with Emilio Estevez working for a 2nd rate promotion called Loaded Weapon 1. Travolta and Jackson were working in a stable controlled by their manager Marcellus Wallace. The storyline is that the stable of generic jobbers tried to do a screwjob on Marcellus Wallace so the team of Jackson and Travolta were sent over to sort them out. You were right though, it was all a worked Vince Russo style shoot.
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midicai
Samurai Cop
Did i mention the porthole defoggers?
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Post by midicai on Aug 16, 2006 17:55:58 GMT -5
sometimes i can slip into markdom with my friend, but his mum is a total mark who cheers faces, boos heels, and i said i dont particularly want cena to win the belt back yet, and she said "but hes worked so hard for it!" i had to literally run into her kitchen so she wouldnt hear me laughing my arse off.
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Post by LuchaBoyWC on Aug 17, 2006 0:46:28 GMT -5
my best shot from one of my blogs on the new ECWs
3. Influence: Smackdown crowd,Cena (nuff) signs, WWE stars that have never stepped in an ECW ring, now i know some marks will say
"Actually sir that is incorrect, Ric Flair can clearly be spotted in Section G,row 12, Seat 23K on ECW The Night The Line Was Crossed....Oh yeah, approxamatley 1079 raindrops fell into the ring at the WWF 1984 outdoor house show in Puerto Rico....and when Yokozuna threw powder during matches in the early 90's WWF, the 10th grain of powder actually evaporates into the bolded word "GORP" if you slow the tape down"
Marks, where the hell was i??
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kevinhardy
Dennis Stamp
Because I can become a better Champion than this person.
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Post by kevinhardy on Aug 18, 2006 15:21:51 GMT -5
I can talk carny
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infrared
Don Corleone
Better than your favourite band.
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Post by infrared on Mar 5, 2007 19:25:48 GMT -5
Yeah, "Cena, Cena, Cena."
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Just Jay
Unicron
DIESEL!?!?!
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Post by Just Jay on Mar 5, 2007 20:51:15 GMT -5
I've got to level with you guys. I think being a "smark" ruins the whole experience of wrestling. Period. My nephew knows as much as I do, but chooses to enjoy it for what it is. So instead of complaining about how a useless person Mark Henry is, I'd like to think that Mark Henry is a dominant beast that has yet to return and resume his reign of terror on SD!. That doesn't mean I'm going to automatically like Lashley, but instead of saying "why the hell are they giving that man such a push?" I'm able to think "Jeez! That guy's unstoppable" Whenever i talk wrestling with my nephew. I don't know, its just a hell of a lot funner that way.
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Sajoa Moe
Patti Mayonnaise
Did you get that thing I sent ya?
A man without gimmick.
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Mar 5, 2007 20:55:23 GMT -5
godberg iz theh best cuz eh won a lot fo tmatches and he had his wining wstreka
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