erisi236
Fry's dog Seymour
... enjoys the rich, smooth taste of Camels.
Not good! Not good! Not good!
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Post by erisi236 on Sept 21, 2006 21:20:24 GMT -5
Or not  So sad that he took a 50% buyout from his WCW contract to get in on this angle only to end up getting squashed like no man has been squashed before. 
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AmandaJ
Don Corleone
My heart...after you broke it.
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Post by AmandaJ on Sept 21, 2006 21:27:31 GMT -5
I love the evil cackle after she slaps him the first time.
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Post by gsguy on Sept 21, 2006 21:27:55 GMT -5
Jobbing to Sara Calloway. Shame shame shame Page.
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Post by 2 time pro bowler Fred Dryer on Sept 22, 2006 0:05:22 GMT -5
It always bugged me how people act like he actually had a match with her, and suffered a clean loss. Triple H jobbed to JR under pretty much the exact same circumstances. But DDP was definetly buried in this fued, and I say that as a guy who hated DDP since I first saw him in '96.
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Post by HomewreckerEdge on Sept 22, 2006 0:08:07 GMT -5
For DDP I think every hour he plugged Kimberly's pipes ties for first as the greatest hour of his life
DDP>anyone
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The Raven
Hank Scorpio
Where The Raven flies, there's Jeopardy!: Sports Edition
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Post by The Raven on Sept 22, 2006 0:10:06 GMT -5
I remember marking out almost as hard as when Jericho pinned HHH for the belt in 2000. God they ruined this angle, poor DDP  |
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starkman
Don Corleone
Racism is NOT funny! Goodbye Imus! and Good Riddance
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Post by starkman on Sept 22, 2006 7:51:22 GMT -5
i never got why vince was so eager to destroy the carreers and pee on all the former wcw guys who were there to work and there to do well RIGHT after wcw failed.
You can honestly say that the only guys who were at the bitter end of WCW who got a proper push were rey mysterio (and even than it wouldn't have happened had eddie lived IMHO) and MAYBE booker T but he had to wade through some crap and now his world title reign is on a show no one gives a flying about.
everywhere else vince has found a way to humiliate all the wcw guys who came in...be it goldberg, DDP or Ric Flair.
And i'll say it right now...the way they treated DDP who at his peak was as over as austin as the take no crap bad ass face was worse than any treatment of dusty rhodes. Looking back at 2001-2002 maybe vince should have stuck to the first plan and just put wcw on the shelf.
The only guys ive seen who weren't vince creations who were really given a big push were:
Rey Mysterio (and that's in part cuz WCW did so much to bury him vince re-masking him was equal to a belt push to begin with)
Jericho (again cuz WCW was Fing up so badly it was taking candy from a baby)
Chris Benoit (the other radicalz were quickly set aside although eddie was strictly due to injury/drug problems and he got uberpushed when he returned and earned each win so if you wanna count him, go right ahead.)
RVD although one can argue that this doesnt count given the WWF ECW releationship throughout ECW's run.
everyone else they get a quickie push to lure them in then they get mashed over by the wwf guys and quickly sent packing (normally back where they came) I STILL can't fathom how vince "couldnt find a role" for RIC FN FLAIR in 1992-1993 after he dropped the strap to bret...hell id argue very well that flair was used more to get hennig over as a ME while injured even when he was in that great savage feud.
Really that IS the one thing that makes me mad about vince...i dont get the vengeful attitude...i think wcw would have been GONE by 1993 and the cartoon era wouldnt have happened had he used flair right.
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Post by mediamaven on Sept 23, 2006 11:08:28 GMT -5
I hated that he was jobbed out so badly to not just the Undertaker when he had the chance, but even his wife.
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Post by Cactus Jack on Sept 23, 2006 11:18:20 GMT -5
I did enjoy the KotR '01 shenanigans, though.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Sept 23, 2006 11:36:21 GMT -5
i never got why vince was so eager to destroy the carreers and pee on all the former wcw guys who were there to work and there to do well RIGHT after wcw failed. You can honestly say that the only guys who were at the bitter end of WCW who got a proper push were rey mysterio (and even than it wouldn't have happened had eddie lived IMHO) and MAYBE booker T but he had to wade through some crap and now his world title reign is on a show no one gives a flying about. everywhere else vince has found a way to humiliate all the wcw guys who came in...be it goldberg, DDP or Ric Flair. And i'll say it right now...the way they treated DDP who at his peak was as over as austin as the take no crap bad ass face was worse than any treatment of dusty rhodes. Looking back at 2001-2002 maybe vince should have stuck to the first plan and just put wcw on the shelf. The only guys ive seen who weren't vince creations who were really given a big push were: Rey Mysterio (and that's in part cuz WCW did so much to bury him vince re-masking him was equal to a belt push to begin with) Jericho (again cuz WCW was Fing up so badly it was taking candy from a baby) Chris Benoit (the other radicalz were quickly set aside although eddie was strictly due to injury/drug problems and he got uberpushed when he returned and earned each win so if you wanna count him, go right ahead.) RVD although one can argue that this doesnt count given the WWF ECW releationship throughout ECW's run. everyone else they get a quickie push to lure them in then they get mashed over by the wwf guys and quickly sent packing (normally back where they came) I STILL can't fathom how vince "couldnt find a role" for RIC FN FLAIR in 1992-1993 after he dropped the strap to bret...hell id argue very well that flair was used more to get hennig over as a ME while injured even when he was in that great savage feud. Really that IS the one thing that makes me mad about vince...i dont get the vengeful attitude...i think wcw would have been GONE by 1993 and the cartoon era wouldnt have happened had he used flair right. It simple why Vince was eagered on doing that. He just won the Monday Night War and ended the war between WCW and WWF. Vince at this point was on top of the world. After years of taking stabs at one another. After years of fighting to the number one stop. Finally beating the company who wanting to put the WWF out of business, He was successful. So what did Vince do? He brought in these WCW talent. Why he jobbed them out so bad? Because he wanted to proved a point. That the WCW stars were no match to the WWF superstars. The who alliance deal was to make WWF looked like the true dominate force over the WCW and ECW. The guys who got pushed were guy who were in the company long before ECW and WCW went down. RVD was about the only guy who came in from outside the company and got a push. Mainly becasue he was so popular by fans and so talented. Fans couldn't get enough of RVD. You may not agree with what he did. But that why he did it. |
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Beav
Hank Scorpio
OMG... I just realized I'm a Brony.
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Post by Beav on Sept 23, 2006 19:45:58 GMT -5
Poor, poor DDP...
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Post by The Electric Laser on Sept 23, 2006 23:03:36 GMT -5
DDP did get a WWE tag title reign and a European title reign and a high profile match with the Undertaker. He wrestled at a Wrestle Mania. Still, his finest hour had to be when he and Big Daddy Dink managed the Fabulous Freebirds from WCW in the early 1990s, you know...the version that saw Michael PS Hayes, Jimmy Jam Garvin, and Badstreet/Fantasia.
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Post by tmp2005 on Sept 24, 2006 5:48:38 GMT -5
This is really why I stopped watching wrestling for years. This kind of crap. I don't care if it wasn't a clean loss. It was at this point that I realized that no WCW wrestler was ever going to be booked legitimately again. It took an upstart Jarrett family promotion to lure me back.
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repomark
Unicron
For Mash Get Smash
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Post by repomark on Sept 24, 2006 7:07:20 GMT -5
I think the simple problem when the WWE brought DDP in he just did not get as over with the fans as they had hoped. You only have to hear the non reaction to his entrance at Invasion to see that DDP just was not getting over, hense the quick end to the Taker feud.
And as for DDP at his peak being as over as Austin.....I think perhaps that is a bit of an exaggeration. He was quite popular - but lets be honest as a t-shirt salesman or world wide star DDP left a lot to be desired when compared to Mr Williams. I think that statement was perhaps made through DDP tinted glasses so I wont mock too mercilessly.
I do agree DDP was misused in WWE - but I am not overly sure that the demand for DDP existed at the time. I was never a big DDP fan however, but I can understand being frustrated with someone you like not reaching the level you feel they are entitled. Personally I dont think DDP was all that talented as an in ring performer, but did enjoy his Christian match at WM18.
I do not think Vince was deliberately setting out to sabbotage DDP, I just think the stalker thing never took off as Vince had hoped. The follow up smiley DDP angle was even worse - but none of it was intentionally trying to destroy Mr Page's career, Vince just miscalculated as sadly he seems to be doing more often than not in the post WCW era.
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