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Post by JMA on Oct 25, 2006 17:55:30 GMT -5
While Wrestlecrap is everywhere in today's professional wrestling, back in the old days it was far more rare. That doesn't mean it wasn't there, though. As you can tell by the title, the purpose of this thread is to name the earliest recorded Wrestlecrap. However, many of these gimmicks and angles have not been inducted, so you'll have to use your best judgment in deciding what is crap. Feel free to list as much crap as you want.
My choices:
Battman - Tony Marino puts on a Batman costume and becomes the WWWF's version of the Caped Crusader.
The Mummy - One of the earliest wrestling mummy gimmicks was done by Benji Ramirez (from 1962 to the early 70's). The gimmick has been re-used again and again but has NEVER gotten over.
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Post by starkman on Oct 25, 2006 18:13:04 GMT -5
The Scillians...Lou Albano in a mafia gimmick so stereotypical the real mob showed up in the locker room to tell em to tone their act down or else Hogan as a heel take 1: The grand wizard (a GENIUS of ring physcology who sadly passed away before vince Jr. took over so he wasnt as big as he coulda been) was the only thing that made this passable, check out that awful robe/cape he wears...eek! I know alot of people did this gimmick including legends like fritz von erich but Karl von Hess as a wrestling NAZI! Yikes. From all accounts bronko nagurski was overpushed because of his great fame and was often in no shape to wrestle especally as his carrer dragged on way too long in the 50s. Sam Sheppard: Convicted killer (man the fugitive is based on) who wrestles to make a buck after he is finally released basically using nothing but the fact that most of the crowd thought he was guilty of killing his wife. Basically a sideshow and he died shortly after from drinking problems (liver).
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Post by x on Oct 25, 2006 18:20:19 GMT -5
How about the Greeks? Wrestling naked in the first Olympic games.
Naked Mideon anyone?
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Post by starkman on Oct 25, 2006 18:21:43 GMT -5
How about the Greeks? Wrestling naked in the first Olympic games. Naked Mideon anyone? hahahahahaha GOD'S pro debut vs jacob if we go that far back
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Oct 25, 2006 19:04:10 GMT -5
Ok honest question. If this were 1950 would we be calling Georges(sp) George Wrestlecrap or not.I mean looking back he was a HUGE infulence but back then ....
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Post by hutter on Oct 25, 2006 19:06:34 GMT -5
Ricky Starr and his ballet shoes, prancing around and gyrating his hips. That was crap, circa the fabulous fifties.
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Post by JMA on Oct 25, 2006 19:17:54 GMT -5
Ok honest question. If this were 1950 would we be calling Georges(sp) George Wrestlecrap or not.I mean looking back he was a HUGE infulence but back then .... Gorgeous George could never be considered Wrestlecrap. He was over to the point that mainstream figures would mention him.
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Post by Alias on Oct 25, 2006 19:29:29 GMT -5
For UK 'Crappers:
Kat Wiesel anyone?
Then again, there were a fair few in the days of World of Sport, my mother watched that show, her reasoning for her fave stars today is cos of their looks (Edge, HBK and Jericho)
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Post by nisi on Oct 25, 2006 21:25:43 GMT -5
Sam Sheppard: Convicted killer (man the fugitive is based on) who wrestles to make a buck after he is finally released basically using nothing but the fact that most of the crowd thought he was guilty of killing his wife. Basically a sideshow and he died shortly after from drinking problems (liver). Good one Starkman, you beat me to this. The saddest thing is that Sheppard was almost certainly innocent and died a broken man. But the best thing about this gimmick was that his finisher was the mandible claw--the idea being that as a physician he knew how to disable his opponent with the right nerve. THAT'S Craptastic!
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Oct 25, 2006 21:53:31 GMT -5
Ok honest question. If this were 1950 would we be calling Georges(sp) George Wrestlecrap or not.I mean looking back he was a HUGE infulence but back then .... Gorgeous George could never be considered Wrestlecrap. He was over to the point that mainstream figures would mention him. I believe Gorgeous George was on the Dick Van D*ke show once.
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Post by Ass Dan on Oct 25, 2006 22:03:21 GMT -5
George Ringo, the wrestling Beatle. It says it all.
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Oct 25, 2006 22:17:20 GMT -5
Wasn't there a lot of wrestling bears back in the 1950s?
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Post by starkman on Oct 26, 2006 18:17:22 GMT -5
Ricky Starr and his ballet shoes, prancing around and gyrating his hips. That was crap, circa the fabulous fifties. easy there! he was the first attempt at a gay FACE and about the only one to successfully pull it off even 40 years later (remember billy and chuck were originally supposed to be faces)
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Oct 26, 2006 18:23:48 GMT -5
I had a manager last summer who swears that, about 20 years ago, he had a friend who was blind. The friend wrestled. In a Batman suit. As "Blind as a Batman" [Krankor laugh]HA HA HA HA HA HA![/Krankor laugh]
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Post by Cactus Jack on Oct 26, 2006 18:40:27 GMT -5
Goliath jobbing to David.
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Post by Dr.Frank N. Furter on Oct 27, 2006 0:37:54 GMT -5
George Ringo, the wrestling Beatle. It says it all.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Oct 27, 2006 0:54:31 GMT -5
Two definite early contenders would be the wrestling "freaks" and Jack Pfeiffer's roster of imitaions.
The freaks were the physically different-looking men, of course. The blimps, the geeks, and obviously, the various "Angels." French Angel, Swedish Angel, Super Swedish Angel (Tor Johnson). They were wrestling's answer to the carnival sideshow.
Pfeiffer (who had a good hand in the freak department too) often promoted, during the 40s and 50s, whole cards of nothing but guys whose names kinda sounded like big stars. Instead of Buddy Rogers, it'd turn out to be someone named Bummy Rogers (no joke). It'd be akin to promoting a card today featuring Hulk Hagan, Stephen Austin and Samoa Moe.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Oct 27, 2006 1:12:03 GMT -5
Actually, it was Freddie Blassie who managed heel Hogan. And he was over in the feud with Andre, but was fired by Vince Sr. for doing Rocky III because he felt it exposed kayfabe.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Oct 27, 2006 1:25:31 GMT -5
Actually, it was Freddie Blassie who managed heel Hogan. And he was over in the feud with Andre, but was fired by Vince Sr. for doing Rocky III because he felt it exposed kayfabe. Not true. Hogan was already gone from WWWF when he did Rocky III, and was already working for the AWA at the time. He left WWWF and signed with AWA in '81 after a tour in Japan, and did Rocky III in 1982.
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Post by Jason Todd Grisham on Oct 27, 2006 1:45:24 GMT -5
The freaks were the physically different-looking men, of course. The blimps, the geeks, and obviously, the various "Angels." French Angel, Swedish Angel, Super Swedish Angel (Tor Johnson). They were wrestling's answer to the carnival sideshow. DAMNIT YOU BEAT ME! So now I have to scramble... I'd have to say going from the King's Sport to a cheap sideshow that exploited people's prejudices. Like there was the nazi, the landlord, the irish... ect.
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