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Post by THE Dinobot on May 22, 2005 21:27:30 GMT -5
Oh, and I had/have nothing against the special effects in Revenge of the Sith, due to it's supposed to be that way for when you watch all 6 parts back-to-back, you can tell the difference and what what damage the Wars had to do with everything.
Was it to much? Yes. But was meant that way. Did the first trilogy have alot of effects? No. Was meant to be that way.
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Post by rdreynolds on May 22, 2005 22:10:53 GMT -5
\ The Academy is pointless to listen to and take seriously what a greta film, director or anything else. Case in point, the most well known fact is that Martin Scorsese has yet to ever win the award, while nominated countless times, other hacks who have no clue as to what they're doing takes his prize. From Raging Bull, Goodfella, Gangs of New York and The Aviator, and many more, he's never won Best Director. Scorsese not winning may be wrong, but when you consider that ALFRED HITCHCOCK never won, that's a total crime. RD
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Post by rdreynolds on May 22, 2005 22:14:39 GMT -5
^^^LOL!!!!!!!!^^^ Two things that disappointed me about the prequels. No Bossk. No constipated British Imperial commanders. And call me a geek, but I took in a second viewing yesterday. I enjoyed it more this time around.. Ok, I may not have seen it THREE TIMES yet like you did, but I have to say that I did see it again tonight, and liked it a LOT more this time around. I think last time I was just sad that this was presumably the end (ie, no more SW movies) and that kind of put a damper on it. This time, the 2:20 or whatever absolutely flew by and I loved every minute of it. Still don't think it's as good as Empire, but it's excellent nonetheless. Cannot wait for the DVD release. RD
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Post by hobojoe on May 22, 2005 23:33:04 GMT -5
You're right. He SHOULD of won it for Meet The Feebles Oh, and Hobo, do you know the answer to the Poster question I asked in my above post? You seem to be the go-to guy here for Star Wars related info. I've heard a couple theories about the Revenge of the Jedi title. One was that it was a fake title all along to catch bootleggers, but that's probably bs because, like you said, official posters went out to theatres. Another one is that they changed the title to avoid confusion with the Star Trek 2, which was originally going to be called Vengence of Kahn instead of Wrath of Kahn. But I don't know how far along they got before the title was changed. About the Academy argument. criminey jeeze the Oscars. In addition to Scorsese and Hitchcock, Stanley Kubrick never won best director either. (Though he did win special effects for 2001, and Hitchcock won a lifetime acheivement award.) I do think Peter Jackson was deserving of an Oscar for Lord of the Rings if for no other reason than the huge scope of the project. There were so many ways he could have criminey jeezeed up LOTR and he didn't (I do have a few nitpicks about Return of the King, but that's just because I'm a Tolkein fanboy.)
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Post by G✇JI☈A on May 23, 2005 4:07:45 GMT -5
I thought Ep3 was excellent.
Annoyed that Jim Jim was not killed off. I mentioned this before in OTD but I was kinda hoping Jar Jar would go and live on Alderaan so we could presume he gets wiped out by the Death Star in Ep4 but sadley it was not to be.
According to the IMDB trivia section that in one version of the script there was to be a Han Solo as a Teenager living with the wookies on Kashyyyk. But thankfully that Idea was nicked. They left him as the Coralian Outlaw.
Other bits of Trivia:
George Lucas played a prank on Christopher Lee, where a puppet of Master Yoda was placed on set, complete with fangs
The original design of Anakin had him sporting a mohawk, a tattoo on his right arm and a shredded looking design to his Jedi robes. George Lucas said that it was "too much". The design was later changed to traditional robes and long hair in a pony-tail. Hayden Christensen thought it was "too pretty". Finally, they settled on the design similar to Obi-Wan's look in Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones (Glad they changed that. Don't want Anakin being the Rodzilla of the Galaxy)
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Post by pahurricane on May 23, 2005 11:44:44 GMT -5
I have just one big gripe after I got done seeing it. The Emperor knows that Yoda's alive and Vader knows Obi-Wan's alive and they spent absolutely ZERO time trying to track them down?
To quote the Hurricane... "What's up with that?"
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Post by EvilMasterBetty, Esq. on May 23, 2005 12:33:24 GMT -5
Well, he must have figured at that point that 2 Jedi were not really a threat to him, especially since he had Vader on his side.
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Post by TuneinTokyo on May 23, 2005 22:25:05 GMT -5
I felt this was the first Star Wars movie that felt like a Star Wars movie, I liked Chewbaca, I loved the end, and the battle scenes as a whole were spectacular. I do think the timing of the film was weird, leading to Anakin having to become evil too quick. Though I do believe the scene where he killed the younglins was intense, it felt it happened prematurely. I can't say the film should have been longer, but, He went from good to bad too easily, I was for a second, and literally one second, not buying it. Yeah, and it was for the sake of his family, but damn.
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Post by MadLinus on May 24, 2005 12:39:43 GMT -5
Overall, I thought the film was well done. The last two lightsabre battles were spectacular and the story did tie together very well. I did have a few problems with it tho...
As everyone mentioned before, Padme's attacking was atrocious. I didn't think it was that bad in the first two films, but this was end! It should have been done much better. But it wasn't completely her fault, as the script was just plain terrible for the love scenes ("you're breaking my heart, Anakin", I mean come on!).
I didn't know much about Grievious going into the film, except that he was supposed to be a badass (with 4 lightsabres how could you not be). But he looked more like a walking tilt-a-whirl. And after Obi-Wan schools him, it was a stupid blaster that killed this joke? I didn't think Jedi's even knew how to shoot a blaster. I thought this was a bit too much.
Finally, I didn't understand Anakin's heel turn (I'm sooo a wrestling fan) at all. You have the Emperor who is trying to act innocent and paralyzed when Anakin sees Windu attacking him, but when he reveals he is playing possum and blasts Windu out of the window (not to mention he now looks like the Michelin Man), Anakin suddenly decides he's not such a bad guy after all. And this really made no sense after Anakin reported Palpatine to Windu a few scenes before. He sure went to being confused to showing total allegiance rather quickly, don't ya think?
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Post by logicman69 on May 24, 2005 13:51:17 GMT -5
Here is my take on it, being a LONG time Star Wars fan.
Episode III. Freaking Awsome!!! I was amazed on how they tied everything together so well. What amazed me is that when I watched the origional trilogy the next day (like I'm sure we all did... or was that just my supreme geekiness) is how the focus of the story changed from Luke and the Rebelion to Vader. I can't wait till this one hits DVD so I can watch all of them in a row.
Rock
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Post by kidnotorious on May 24, 2005 18:23:26 GMT -5
MadLinus, Anakin's didn't believe Palpatine was innocent. On the contrary, Anakin was the one to tell Mace that Palpatine was the Sith Lord. However, Palpatine already put the idea that Padme could only be saved from death by the Dark Side. Yoda confirmed this idea with his "Mourn not the dead" speech. So when Mace realized that things had gone too far and Palpatine had too much power and had to be killed all Anakin saw was his chance to save Padme about to be taken away. So he disarms Mace, but had no idea the Palpatine still had enough left in him to launch Mace a mile out the window. Anakin is now royally screwed. He's an accomplice in the murder of the second highest Jedi Master. The Council had thier doubts about Palpatine and believed Anakin was too friendly with him. To make matters worse, Mace Windu was the most vocal against Anakin's friendship with Palpatine. All the circumstancial evidence points to Anakin being Palpatine's apprentice, and no one (save Obi Wan) would believe otherwise since Anakin still has to keep Palpatine alive. Given his options, he chose the one which gave him the best shot of saving Padme: He turned.
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Post by Hassan bin Sober on May 24, 2005 21:23:00 GMT -5
I have just one big gripe after I got done seeing it. The Emperor knows that Yoda's alive and Vader knows Obi-Wan's alive and they spent absolutely ZERO time trying to track them down? To quote the Hurricane... "What's up with that?" The Emperor doesn't know for sure Yoda is alive. They just couldn't find the body.
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Post by andre28bc on May 24, 2005 21:39:12 GMT -5
MadLinus, Anakin's didn't believe Palpatine was innocent. On the contrary, Anakin was the one to tell Mace that Palpatine was the Sith Lord. However, Palpatine already put the idea that Padme could only be saved from death by the Dark Side. Yoda confirmed this idea with his "Mourn not the dead" speech. So when Mace realized that things had gone too far and Palpatine had too much power and had to be killed all Anakin saw was his chance to save Padme about to be taken away. So he disarms Mace, but had no idea the Palpatine still had enough left in him to launch Mace a mile out the window. Anakin is now royally screwed. He's an accomplice in the murder of the second highest Jedi Master. The Council had thier doubts about Palpatine and believed Anakin was too friendly with him. To make matters worse, Mace Windu was the most vocal against Anakin's friendship with Palpatine. All the circumstancial evidence points to Anakin being Palpatine's apprentice, and no one (save Obi Wan) would believe otherwise since Anakin still has to keep Palpatine alive. Given his options, he chose the one which gave him the best shot of saving Padme: He turned. LOL, all I have to say is that I'm LOVING tthe mix of Star Wars lingo with Wrestling lingo. "He Turned" lol Just friggin funny as hell, good jorb (a H*R reference) all.
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Post by HoagieWithPastrami on May 24, 2005 23:33:51 GMT -5
Hahaha... I was talking about the flick with a fellow wrestling fan at a bar last weekend and we kept referring to the part where he slices Sam Jackson's arm off as the "Darth Vader heel turn".
Our friend, who doesn't watch wrestling, had NO idea what we were talking about at all!
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Post by andre28bc on May 24, 2005 23:35:41 GMT -5
Yes yes yes confuse the simpletons, confuse them ALL!
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Post by THE Dinobot on May 25, 2005 8:33:57 GMT -5
To bad it's not later revealed that Jar Jar was the true father of Luke and Leih. And then in Empire, when Vader told Luke, Luke could have just said 'messa donts thinks a sosa."
Eh, whatever.
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Post by MadLinus on May 25, 2005 12:06:50 GMT -5
Thanks, Kidnotorius, that does make sense. But couldn't Anakin just kill Palpatine himself. If he is the Chosen One, then he would have powers greater than even Yoda, so it is likely he would be the victor. He even teases this possibility when talking to Padme, so if he was thinking about it later, why didn't he just do it right there. And I imagine if he killed Palpatine after the Senator killed Windu that his status would be somewhat redeemed. Just my take on the whole thing.
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Post by HoagieWithPastrami on May 25, 2005 12:08:17 GMT -5
Get this, my dad went and saw the new Star Wars at the theatre.
He liked it, but he didn't know what was going on because he hadn't seen the first two flicks of the new trilogy.
So he borrows Episodes 1 & 2 off of my sister.
Yesterday, he's watching Episode 2 (presumably after watching Episode 1), and he says to me, "This movie's alright, but I wish it had that Jar Jar guy in it more. I like that guy, he talks funny!"
I told him he was the first person in the history of earth to ever make that statement.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 25, 2005 12:38:49 GMT -5
I wanted a Han Solo cameo as he's been my favorite character in the flicks, but other than that, great movie.
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Post by VeggieOverlord on May 25, 2005 16:55:55 GMT -5
Saw it on Friday. Loved it. Second only to Empire. Ewan McGregor was awesome as Obi Wan. I mean Oscar awesome. Ian McDiarmid was excellent as Palpatine as well. The only real black eye on the film were 90% of the exchanges between Anakin and Padme. Simply nauseating. But it was a small sacrafice for such an awesome movie.
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