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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Sept 16, 2005 11:19:02 GMT -5
Jeff Jarrett won the world title back from Raven, thanks to America's Most Wanted at a BCW show.
Please tell me that you are as mad about this title change as I am.
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Post by invaderdave on Sept 16, 2005 12:12:22 GMT -5
Before anyone goes off, in the defense of my company of fanship choice, and my favorite booker, here:
There. It wasn't TNA's fault completely. It's not Scott D'Amore or Mike Tenay, or even Jeremy Borash if you can believe that.
It was Spike TV and their belief that Jeff Jarrett is a draw.
Yeah...my brain splattered all over the floor at the thought of it too.
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Post by Rocket N. Nine on Sept 16, 2005 12:24:01 GMT -5
Before anyone goes off, in the defense of my company of fanship choice, and my favorite booker, here: There. It wasn't TNA's fault completely. It's not Scott D'Amore or Mike Tenay, or even Jeremy Borash if you can believe that. It was Spike TV and their belief that Jeff Jarrett is a draw. Yeah...my brain splattered all over the floor at the thought of it too. Figures. Spike isn't all bad, but this is a network that thinks an entire day of shows about trucks is good TV. |
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Post by rdreynolds on Sept 16, 2005 21:17:08 GMT -5
Jeff Jarrett won the world title back from Raven, thanks to America's Most Wanted at a BCW show. Please tell me that you are as mad about this title change as I am. I'm not sure it's even possible for someone to be as annoyed about it as I am. I really hate seeing TNA's future jeopardized because of Jarrett's ego. Ridiculous. RD |
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Sept 16, 2005 22:25:51 GMT -5
Before anyone goes off, in the defense of my company of fanship choice, and my favorite booker, here: There. It wasn't TNA's fault completely. It's not Scott D'Amore or Mike Tenay, or even Jeremy Borash if you can believe that. It was Spike TV and their belief that Jeff Jarrett is a draw. Yeah...my brain splattered all over the floor at the thought of it too. They figured since everyone at the test audience hated him that he was playing heel well. |
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Post by tamuthetongantiger on Sept 16, 2005 23:33:22 GMT -5
Um Wrestlecrappers, and I am being serious here... please help me and answer my question. What's a Jeff Jarrett? Thanks for your help. P.S. Seriously, what is one of those? Before anyone goes off, in the defense of my company of fanship choice, and my favorite booker, here: There. It wasn't TNA's fault completely. It's not Scott D'Amore or Mike Tenay, or even Jeremy Borash if you can believe that. It was Spike TV and their belief that Jeff Jarrett is a draw. Yeah...my brain splattered all over the floor at the thought of it too. |
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Post by dirtyvicar on Sept 17, 2005 15:36:10 GMT -5
Um Wrestlecrappers, and I am being serious here... please help me and answer my question. What's a Jeff Jarrett? Thanks for your help. P.S. Seriously, what is one of those? You should get on you knees and pray to whatever supreme being you worship, and thank him if you truly do not know. A Jeff Jarrett is a kind of minature version of the gold goblin Hulk Hogan. Albeit one in smaller size, smaller muscles, lesser talent(if that is possible), lesser charisma, but almost as big or bigger ego. There, that about sums it up. Fellow crappers feel free to add anything I missed. ;D Excelsior, Dirtyvicar |
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Post by Paul Servo on Sept 17, 2005 17:40:28 GMT -5
I don't think his ego is THAT big. I saw entertain some fans outside a WCW PPV as the wrestlers were entering the areana (him and Mongo cut an impromptu promo which had the intellectual level of 'your mamma' jokes, but it was still amusing nonetheless. And like some of the wrestlers *cough*Savage*cough*Steiner*cough* he could have just not acknowledged the crowd (side note, the best reaction that day was from James Vandenberg, I changed his name like those that chant "Daryl" to heckle Daryl Strawberry, and he had a big ass grin, raised the roof and did this little "yeah, I'm cool" dance).
But back to Jarrett, with any luck, this will only be until the Styles match. That does seem like a bigger draw.
TNA seems to know what they are doing in that they actually gave Raven the belt for a while. He showed he can run with it, and he'll get it again
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Post by tamuthetongantiger on Sept 18, 2005 2:09:37 GMT -5
It's funny but I think this says something about where wrestling has been the last five years... yeah, I know who Jarrett is in the abstract but if I bumped into him on the street tomorrow, I wouldn't recognize him and I've never seen him wrestle. I just kind of missed the late 90s. But, I still like wrestling and if I like it enough to post at places like this then I'm a more "hardcore" fan than TNA will need as it enters the mainstream via Spike.
I'm certainly going to give the TNA show a shot or two and I'm curious to see people I've heard great things about like Samoa Joe and AJ Styles. But it seems to me, and this probably isn't a radical point of view, that TNA is at a place where it has to make wrestlers into draws and is not at a place where it has drawing names. So some Spike execs wanted Jarrett to be champ? Okay, I guess. But for me, who they have as champ is immaterial. I'm going to try watching their show because I'm curious and like wrestling. At that point, they'll either convince me that they have performers that I care about or they won't. Who they have as champ, given that they have a roster full of people that I've mostly never seen before (unless they were recently in WWE) is, at this point, not the main issue.
I guess I'd just be kind of shocked it anyone tunes into the early shows just because Jarrett is champ. Right now, I think, to a general audience full of people who don't, sadly read Wrestlecrap.com or Wrestlingobserver.com or anything like that, TNA has to hope that it being a wrestling show will be the big draw. Then, they very quickly have to make people like me care to the point where we would never post something like "What's a Jeff Jarrett?"
Like I said, I'm going to give them a chance and that's something I wasn't willing to do during their PPV only days. But they should be less worried about who goes into the show as champ than they should be about what characters they can push who will make me tune in again after I give them a shot.
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Post by CrOaT.... on Sept 18, 2005 3:24:36 GMT -5
im definetely gonna watch tna mainly for the carzy x-division matches regardless of jeff jarrett as champ
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Post by mlsq42 on Sept 18, 2005 4:08:37 GMT -5
Um Wrestlecrappers, and I am being serious here... please help me and answer my question. What's a Jeff Jarrett? Thanks for your help. P.S. Seriously, what is one of those? You should get on you knees and pray to whatever supreme being you worship, and thank him if you truly do not know. A Jeff Jarrett is a kind of minature version of the gold goblin Hulk Hogan. Albeit one in smaller size, smaller muscles, lesser talent(if that is possible), lesser charisma, but almost as big or bigger ego. There, that about sums it up. Fellow crappers feel free to add anything I missed. ;D Excelsior, Dirtyvicar Dude! That's so wrong! You have to mention the Guitar. His whole deal is over the Guitar, despite not having a storyline excuse for it in about 7 years. |
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Post by BigAl on Sept 18, 2005 6:46:31 GMT -5
It was Spike TV and their belief that Jeff Jarrett is a draw. Yeah...my brain splattered all over the floor at the thought of it too. If tey wanted to draw WWE audience, should they hand the belt to Kevn Nash? He was a WWF world champ for one friggin year, 3 times WCW world champ, and was more widely known to regular wrestling tv viewers than jarrett!!!! |
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Post by Feyrhausen on Sept 18, 2005 8:28:12 GMT -5
Doesnt Jeff Jarrett look like the kind of guy you expect to see in Wal-Mart on a Saturday morning wearing jeans and a wife beater, flanked by a 300 pound wife in a mumu and a mess of barefoot kids in overalls.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Sept 18, 2005 8:31:46 GMT -5
Doesnt Jeff Jarrett look like the kind of guy you expect to see in Wal-Mart on a Saturday morning wearing jeans and a wife beater, flanked by a 300 pound wife in a mumu and a mess of barefoot kids in overalls. Better yet, I can see Jeff Jarrett WORKING at Wal-Mart on a Saturday morning |
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Post by dirtyvicar on Sept 18, 2005 14:11:04 GMT -5
Doesnt Jeff Jarrett look like the kind of guy you expect to see in Wal-Mart on a Saturday morning wearing jeans and a wife beater, flanked by a 300 pound wife in a mumu and a mess of barefoot kids in overalls. Better yet, I can see Jeff Jarrett WORKING at Wal-Mart on a Saturday morning LOL! ;D |
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Post by dirtyvicar on Sept 18, 2005 14:12:40 GMT -5
You should get on you knees and pray to whatever supreme being you worship, and thank him if you truly do not know. A Jeff Jarrett is a kind of minature version of the gold goblin Hulk Hogan. Albeit one in smaller size, smaller muscles, lesser talent(if that is possible), lesser charisma, but almost as big or bigger ego. There, that about sums it up. Fellow crappers feel free to add anything I missed. ;D Excelsior, Dirtyvicar Dude! That's so wrong! You have to mention the Guitar. His whole deal is over the Guitar, despite not having a storyline excuse for it in about 7 years. Sorry, I musta blocked the guitar from my memory.  |
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Post by Wheresmy5bucks on Sept 18, 2005 15:01:12 GMT -5
The Guitar is only remotely entertaining about Jarret.
However, Raven once smashed a kitchen sink over the head of DDP...
So Raven even beats Jarret in the absurd weaponry.
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Post by mlsq42 on Sept 18, 2005 18:51:05 GMT -5
Well, by that logic the ECW Fanbase beats every wrestler in history combined.
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Post by GenerationX7 on Sept 18, 2005 20:58:14 GMT -5
Jarret is the greatest champion...FOR ME TO POOP ON!
In all seriousness. I think Jarret regaining a title at another promotion is the worst thing anybody has ever came up with. The match should've been non title but no. Jarret wanted things his way. I don't think TNA management agreed to this. This is something Jarret wanted and he did whatever he had to do get things his way. Personally, I think TNA booking will be forced by TNA management to have Jarret drop the title to Raven, but Jarret will do exactly the opposite. Things are going to go down hill for TNA and it will lead to its closing. When TNA closes its doors, we can all blame Jarret and his ego for forcing us to watch WWE crap again.
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Post by dirtyvicar on Sept 20, 2005 13:06:22 GMT -5
The Guitar is only remotely entertaining about Jarret. However, Raven once smashed a kitchen sink over the head of DDP... So Raven even beats Jarret in the absurd weaponry. When it comes to gimmick weapons, and suchone shouls remember the words of Mick Foley, from his autobiography. "If you carry a whip and don't crack it the fans will realize that you can't use it. " Likewise if you carry a guitar and don't play it, the fans will know and react as such. The one thing I newer understood is why his opponents never seemed to realize that he was going to hit them with it. You'ld think after a few weeks the jobbers and other midcarders would smarten up. All Raven was doing to DDP was introduce DDP to the way they do things in the ECW( I wonder who Raven p***ed off to have to be in the ring with DDP). |
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