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Post by barryhorowitz4ever on Jul 25, 2005 14:14:04 GMT -5
we all know movies like bodyslam, and anything staring hulk are terrible, but there is something about the business that makes it perfect for documentaries. beyond the mat and wrestling with shadows are both great. i hope there is more stuff like that in the future  |
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Post by jobber2thestars on Jul 25, 2005 18:09:47 GMT -5
Because the stuff that goes on backstage is usually much more entertaining than the storylines in the ring. Its also a look into the personal lives of the people that are built up to be larger than life, sadly we often see that they are all too human when faced with their addictions.
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Post by superborracho6000 on Jul 25, 2005 22:47:05 GMT -5
Not about real rasslin', but the doc. "Girl Wrestler" is pretty good. It's about this junior high girl wrestling at school in Texas, not being able to compete 'cuz she has to wrestle other girls by rule, getting owned by wrestling dudes, guys beeyatching about how colleges are cutting wrestling to comply with Title IX, etc. They showed it on PBS. Wasn't the Verne Gagne movie inducted into the crap a documentary tho?  |
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Post by vampirebadger on Jul 26, 2005 5:09:51 GMT -5
has anyone seen 101 reasons not to be a pro wrestlers i saw the trailers it looked quite good.
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Post by jobber2thestars on Jul 26, 2005 21:05:17 GMT -5
I saw the one about the girl and hated it. She wanted to be treated as an equal, but clearly was not. The second that she started to lose or lost, she began to cry. There are plenty of other female wrestlers that the film could of focused on, not one that always crys.
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Post by rdreynolds on Jul 26, 2005 21:21:54 GMT -5
Maybe they're better because they treat us with respect, like we have a brain in our heads...unlike some promoters.
But hey, that's how I've been able to host a site for 5 years called WrestleCrap, so what do I know? 8)
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Post by hobojoe on Jul 27, 2005 1:07:44 GMT -5
The problem with non-documentary wrestling movies are that they're always kayfabed and structured like other sports movies, with the hero triumphing over adversity and winning the big match.
This doesn't work for wrestling movies because it's not realistic. Take Ready to Rumble for example. The two doofuses and Jimmy King attack DDP (I think?) the night of the big match and all of a sudden they're in the main event. In real life no one would book a renagade ex-employee who snuck backstage to attack a wrestler. (present Matt Hardy scenario not withstanding)
And even if we could believe this, everyone knows the results of wrestling matches are predetermined. So any realistic scenario would involve knowing the result of the big match beforehand and would be anti-climactic.
Buying the premis of any wrestling film involves the presumption that wrestling is "real", and even the biggest marks haven't bought that for 10 years.
Surely it's possible to make a realistic fictional wrestling film, but not using the convential dramatic formula typically associated with sports movies. It would require something different, and I doubt anyone in Hollywood has enough respect for wrestling fans to take the time to do so.
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Post by sexualvanilla on Aug 6, 2005 2:00:21 GMT -5
I've always thought that a great movie can be done about wrestling that's not kayfabed, and more like a movie like Raging Bull than say Friday Night Lights. Raging Bull was about the guy himself, Jake LaMotta, and his relationships and dealings with his family and friends with boxing being a backdrop and occasionally moving the plot in a certain direction. There's even a scene where Jake's instructed to throw a fight, bnut in a less legal way than wrestling. A movie about a wrestler and the toll the business can take on the body and what it's like, combined with it being a study on the character could be really good
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Post by chrislatimer2005 on Aug 6, 2005 5:29:06 GMT -5
i own every documentary ever done on wrestling that i possibly can.
101 reasons is only on us release.
and they all pretty good but how awesome was the monday night wars
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Post by Creamstick on Aug 6, 2005 12:00:20 GMT -5
I'm sure I posted in this thread - maybe on one of the other forums here then.
Oh well.
Anyway - I watched Raging Bull again the other night, and one little bit I'd never noticed before put a smile on my face - Just before Jake tanks the title match, the promoter (wearing a sharp suit and a white pompadour hairdo) asks Jake (not in so many words) if he's going to throw the fight, as the bookmaking is going funny. Of course, jake answers in the negative.
Then, as the promoter is leaving, Jake calls him 'Vince'.
Of course, the title fight is at MSG - it's Vince Senior!!!
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Post by hobojoe on Aug 6, 2005 12:25:49 GMT -5
I've always thought that a great movie can be done about wrestling that's not kayfabed, and more like a movie like Raging Bull than say Friday Night Lights. Raging Bull was about the guy himself, Jake LaMotta, and his relationships and dealings with his family and friends with boxing being a backdrop and occasionally moving the plot in a certain direction. There's even a scene where Jake's instructed to throw a fight, bnut in a less legal way than wrestling. A movie about a wrestler and the toll the business can take on the body and what it's like, combined with it being a study on the character could be really good That could definitely work. |
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Post by superborracho6000 on Aug 6, 2005 18:26:46 GMT -5
The Jake Roberts Story
How many great drug movies could be made about wrestling?
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Post by barryhorowitz4ever on Aug 7, 2005 19:12:58 GMT -5
i felt sorry for poor dennis stamp watching beyond the mat  |
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