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Post by greeby on May 20, 2010 0:08:35 GMT -5
ECW alumni on Raw: Sheamus, The Miz, John Morrison, Mark Henry, Evan Bourne, Ezekiel Jackson, The Hart Dynasty, William Regal, Vladimir Kozlov, Yoshi Tatsu, Zack Ryder, Goldust, Alicia Fox, The Bella Twins, Natalya
Total: 17 out of 35
ECW alumni on Smackdown: CM Punk, Christian, Big Show, Jack Swagger, Kofi Kingston, Kane, Matt Hardy, Chavo Guerrero, The Dudebusters, Vance Archer, Tyler Reks, Kelly Kelly, Layla, Tiffany, Rosa Mendes
Total: 16 out of 29
Grand Total: 33 out of 64
Reason I bring this up is I remember how eager WWE was to write ECW off as a failure and wanted to sweep it out of the way. Now with NXT's first season reaching the finale, the network wants the show wrapped up in double-quick time. Only one guy has a realistic hope of being a star on the main roster, although they may try bringing along some of the others. Both of which will undermine the credibility of the concept.
I don't mind that ECW is gone, but the way it was ended smacked of ingratitude
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Post by Arturo Classico on May 20, 2010 0:17:07 GMT -5
Well I wouldn't call any of those people Alumni of "ECW". The only ones I would consider to be part of ECW is anyone in ECW from 1993-2001. Those are the only people that matter the rest were just on the nationally televised OVW/DSW/FCW.
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Post by poontangler on May 20, 2010 0:27:43 GMT -5
Well I wouldn't call any of those people Alumni of "ECW". The only ones I would consider to be part of ECW is anyone in ECW from 1993-2001. Those are the only people that matter the rest were just on the nationally televised OVW/DSW/FCW. QFT. And sadly, they're all long gone now. And I forget if it was RD or Blade, but I totally agree: Sandman being McMahon's son would have been a license to print money.
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Post by Jason on May 20, 2010 0:38:28 GMT -5
Chris Jericho and Rey Mysterio are the only two left who participated in the actual ECW. Unless I'm forgetting somebody...
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Post by Free Hat on May 20, 2010 0:43:46 GMT -5
Chris Jericho and Rey Mysterio are the only two left who participated in the actual ECW. Unless I'm forgetting somebody... Isn't Joey Mercury coming back soon? He was in the old ECW for a short time.
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Post by Arturo Classico on May 20, 2010 1:01:52 GMT -5
Chris Jericho and Rey Mysterio are the only two left who participated in the actual ECW. Unless I'm forgetting somebody... Isn't Joey Mercury coming back soon? He was in the old ECW for a short time. Yeah thats pretty much it now Jericho, Dean Malenko, Mysterio, Dusty Rhodes, Mercury and I guess you could say Styles as I believe he is still employed by the company. But the only ones that wrestle anymore is Jericho, Mysterio and Mercury.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on May 20, 2010 1:57:39 GMT -5
I gotta disagree. I consider anyone who was on the rebirth of ECW to be an alumnus of ECW.
Thus, I consider Punk and friends to all be ECW alumni.
With that said, I think ECW was severely under-rated. Show wasn't bad at all and it did a fantastic job of building and creating new talent and also did a good job of helping older stars (Big Show).
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2010 2:38:02 GMT -5
Isn't Joey Mercury coming back soon? He was in the old ECW for a short time. Yeah thats pretty much it now Jericho, Dean Malenko, Mysterio, Dusty Rhodes, Mercury and I guess you could say Styles as I believe he is still employed by the company. But the only ones that wrestle anymore is Jericho, Mysterio and Mercury. There's also Lawler.
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Post by barley96 on May 20, 2010 3:50:20 GMT -5
Well I wouldn't call any of those people Alumni of "ECW". The only ones I would consider to be part of ECW is anyone in ECW from 1993-2001. Those are the only people that matter the rest were just on the nationally televised OVW/DSW/FCW. This a million times!
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on May 20, 2010 6:47:24 GMT -5
So Tyler Reks will get the invite to the ECW reunions in Philly?
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Post by Raja Lion on May 20, 2010 6:50:25 GMT -5
I gotta disagree. I consider anyone who was on the rebirth of ECW to be an alumnus of ECW. . The rebirth of ECW was not Gordon or Heyman's ECW. It was a WWE creation. The only thing it has ties to the original ECW is the name and some of the workers that worked for both at some point. Once WWE re-launched it, it was its own entity and was treated as such. It was just another Raw or Smackdown and not a seperate federation. WWE does not consider the men who held the title prior to WWE owning it alumni (except for the ones who worked there afterwards), therefore neither can we, but they do recognize the lineage. ECW/WWECW. Just as WCW prior to Turner owning it was not a company and was just the name of an NWA affiliated TV show that ran on TBS. WCW is a Turner creation (1988) out of the ashes of JCP.
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Post by Mayonnaise on May 20, 2010 9:50:49 GMT -5
I gotta disagree. I consider anyone who was on the rebirth of ECW to be an alumnus of ECW. . The rebirth of ECW was not Gordon or Heyman's ECW. It was a WWE creation. The only thing it has ties to the original ECW is the name and some of the workers that worked for both at some point. Don't forget both were funded by Vince as well.
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Post by alexk on May 20, 2010 11:31:27 GMT -5
With that said, I think ECW was severely under-rated. Show wasn't bad at all and it did a fantastic job of building and creating new talent and also did a good job of helping older stars (Big Show). Kinda like the original ECW, to an extent...
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Post by lildude8218 on May 20, 2010 11:37:30 GMT -5
WWE does not consider the men who held the title prior to WWE owning it alumni (except for the ones who worked there afterwards), therefore neither can we, but they do recognize the lineage. ECW/WWECW. Just as WCW prior to Turner owning it was not a company and was just the name of an NWA affiliated TV show that ran on TBS. WCW is a Turner creation (1988) out of the ashes of JCP. www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/history/ecwchampionship/
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Post by Raja Lion on May 20, 2010 11:42:17 GMT -5
WWE does not consider the men who held the title prior to WWE owning it alumni (except for the ones who worked there afterwards), therefore neither can we, but they do recognize the lineage. ECW/WWECW. Just as WCW prior to Turner owning it was not a company and was just the name of an NWA affiliated TV show that ran on TBS. WCW is a Turner creation (1988) out of the ashes of JCP. www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/history/ecwchampionship/"but they do recognize the lineage"
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Post by lildude8218 on May 20, 2010 11:44:21 GMT -5
It's the SAME company. Someone else bought it and did what he wanted with it. Just like when George Steinbrenner bought the Yankees. It's not a different team.
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Post by alexk on May 20, 2010 11:44:21 GMT -5
WWE does not consider the men who held the title prior to WWE owning it alumni (except for the ones who worked there afterwards), therefore neither can we, but they do recognize the lineage. ECW/WWECW. Just as WCW prior to Turner owning it was not a company and was just the name of an NWA affiliated TV show that ran on TBS. WCW is a Turner creation (1988) out of the ashes of JCP. www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/history/ecwchampionship/He did say they recognize the lineage. However, notice that the title history there only goes through when it was the ECW World Heavyweight Championship? I remember a few (maybe several months) ago when they recognized the more complete history of the belt, even up through its days as the Eastern Championship Wrestling (ECW) Championship, when Jimmy Snuka (sp?) was the first champion I believe.
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Post by lildude8218 on May 20, 2010 11:48:08 GMT -5
Eastern Championship Wrestling and Extreme Championship Wrestling were two different companies. Eastern Championship Wrestling went out of business (Gordon's words in that famous promo) and they started up a new company.
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Post by Raja Lion on May 20, 2010 11:48:49 GMT -5
It's the SAME company. Someone else bought it and did what he wanted with it. Just like when George Steinbrenner bought the Yankees. It's not a different team. Its not the same company. WWE bought the right to ECW's tape library and the intellectual properties. The new ECW was a WWE creation and was an attempt to recreate that in their own mold. It was not a seperate show with its own touring schedule or anything like that as it ran the way Superstars does now and Heat used to. It was all run by WWE and was a brand name, not a company. ECW (1992-2001) was a completely seperate entity, as was WCW before they folded, and as TNA is now, even if Vince was funneling cash to Heyman during the War, it was not Vince's company. So if WWE decided to make a new WCW show today, would that be the same company as it was back before Turner sold it?
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Post by losthead on May 20, 2010 11:49:23 GMT -5
Sheamus, Jack Swagger, CM Punk, The Hart Dynasty, Kofi Kingston
All were built up on ECW. Three are credible main eventers who were/are World Champions, and the other three were/are tag team champions (and Kofi was Intercontinental).
Plus it launched The Miz and John Morrison into superstars and future main eventers. Made Mark Henry credible again, and even gave Matt Hardy a shot in the arm.
ECW WAS A REAL BIG FAILURE CAUSE THERE WERENT ENOUGH CHAIR SHOTS
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