WWHHHD
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Post by WWHHHD on May 16, 2010 21:10:29 GMT -5
Let's go with Sting and Goldberg.
Oops WWE only.
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Post by soultsukino on May 16, 2010 21:14:07 GMT -5
The eugene turn was it for me. That just didn't work and NO ONE cared
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MolotovMocktail
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Post by MolotovMocktail on May 16, 2010 21:18:04 GMT -5
Actually, this one made sense. Ahmed was unable to win the title, so he blamed his own shortcomings on racism rather than own up to it. It was his face turn a month later that made no sense. The reason for the turn wasn't the problem. It was the ass backwards logic that he'd align himself with the guys who'd intentionally gone out of their way to make his life hell. But I agree that the face turn afterwards made him out to be an unsympathetic little bitch. Well, leading up to the turn, Ahmed's promos about Faarooq started to become, "I may not like you, but I do respect you", after they had destroyed each other over the past few months. And Faarooq was starting to get into his head, constantly reminding him that the WWF had never had a black champion. So it was more like he didn't like Faarooq personally, but he had the right idea of standing up to the white establishment who he was told was responsible for his inability to reach the top. I thought about that one too, until I read it as Angle being aligned with Vince and the WWF all along, and being used as the mole to sabotage the Alliance during the final Survivor Series match. So it wasn't really a turn, more of a double swerve.
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Post by noleafclover1980 on May 16, 2010 21:29:05 GMT -5
Ahmed Johnson just looked stupid by the end of his turn. He joins the NOD, then gets his ass beat by them not long after with the NOD basically being "Dude, you're a dumb ass. We hate you, and this was all a trick to get your guard down to kick your ass more. Dumbass"
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Ben Wyatt
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Post by Ben Wyatt on May 16, 2010 21:32:14 GMT -5
Angle turning heel and joining the Alliance during the Invasion. Then somehow being the heel AFTER helping beat the Alliance. God my brain hurts
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on May 16, 2010 21:34:01 GMT -5
Angle turning heel and joining the Alliance during the Invasion. Then somehow being the heel AFTER helping beat the Alliance. God my brain hurts No wonder so many people stopped watching around that time.
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Matt Dunn
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Post by Matt Dunn on May 16, 2010 21:49:23 GMT -5
Austin AND Angle in 2001: Let's see, Austin's heel turn. It's stupid mainly because 1)he sided with Vince, who he supposedly hated and 2)he sided, on the next night's RAW, with the guy who hired someone to try to kill him. Makes A LOT of sense. Then, he turns face the night after the alliance was vanquished while HE was part of that team and ANGLE, who was also team alliance, helped WWF to win but HE was still a heel. Got that?
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luiscurse
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Post by luiscurse on May 16, 2010 22:05:28 GMT -5
Vince as the higher power. This I wanted to post the video but couldn't find but the worst one in recent memory is Eugene. Thats right they tried to turn the lovable mentally retarded fan favorite into a mentally retarded bad guy. This Austin AND Angle in 2001: Let's see, Austin's heel turn. It's stupid mainly because 1)he sided with Vince, who he supposedly hated and 2)he sided, on the next night's RAW, with the guy who hired someone to try to kill him. Makes A LOT of sense. Then, he turns face the night after the alliance was vanquished while HE was part of that team and ANGLE, who was also team alliance, helped WWF to win but HE was still a heel. Got that? and oh gawd this!! ;D Not exactly a heel turn, but I never got the point of Undertaker burying Paul Bearer in Sea-ment back in 04.
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Post by RI Richmark on May 16, 2010 22:13:55 GMT -5
Wow! I forgot a lot of these. But here's one I remember.
In 2002 Ric Flair was the face owner of RAW. Vince McMahon brings in the NWO to oppose him. Months later after a few arguments with Steve Austin, Flair turns heel and aligns with the NWO just to recreate Austin vs evil boss angle #672.
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Post by cobrafan on May 16, 2010 22:20:12 GMT -5
Stone Cold's. I'm sorry...but it just didn't make much sense. I know they tried to explain it but it was just nonsensical. What hurt it even more is when he sided with HHH.
They must have known the first turn was bad which is why they turned him again during the whole InVasion storyline...and that one was even worse!
Angle's didn't make any sense either. Wouldn't clocking heel Austin with the belt ensuring team WWF won at Survivor Series make him a babyface? The next night he was the same old heel while Austin magically became a face again despite the fact that 24 hrs before he was out to put WWF out of business...that made no sense what so ever.
It's like they gave up on giving an explanation to the conclusion after months of storylines.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on May 16, 2010 22:55:07 GMT -5
Eddie Guerrero in 2003 turning on Tajiri
Eddie was white hot as the lying, cheating, stealing babyface. Crowds had no interest in booing Eddie, especially the growing Latino fanbase on Smackdown. May have been the most no-sold turn in history.
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Post by waluigi on May 16, 2010 23:01:27 GMT -5
Angle turning heel and joining the Alliance during the Invasion. Then somehow being the heel AFTER helping beat the Alliance. God my brain hurts That was just everything returning to status quo. Think about it, Austin turned face IMMEDIATELY after Survivor Series that year.
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Post by Hugh Mungus on May 16, 2010 23:10:22 GMT -5
In Austin's defense, it was HIS idea to turn heel to refresh his character, because he felt that his character was going stale. Jim Ross compares it to trying to get John Wayne to play a Nazi.
And in the buildup to WM17, it made sense, because it showed that Austin was desperate to do whatever it takes to win the WWF Title, even if it means siding with Mr. McMahon.
And around the time, I think that HHH was teasing a face turn after WM17, and had he not get injured, we would see a face HHH against a heel Austin at Summerslam 2001.
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Post by cabbageboy on May 16, 2010 23:28:19 GMT -5
I don't even think the Eddie 2003 angle with Tajiri was even a heel turn. What did Eddie do that wasn't already doing?
To me, this begins with Tatanka in 1994. This is the grand daddy of all bad WWF heel turns. The guy was a popular babyface, he insisted that Lex Luger was a dirtbag that wasn't really into his pro American schtick and was really in with Dibiase. Then at Summerslam 1994 it was revealed that Tatanka was really on Dibiase's payroll and he did the heel turn instead of Luger (who is a more natural heel).
The problem is that Tatanka did nothing different in his act. He still dressed as the same Indian and all that, just now as a heel. It was a terrible, career killing heel turn. What's sadder is that Tatanka made his little comeback a few years ago on Smackdown and WWE tried yet AGAIN to turn him heel and of course it didn't work and he was released. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on May 16, 2010 23:38:10 GMT -5
I don't even think the Eddie 2003 angle with Tajiri was even a heel turn. What did Eddie do that wasn't already doing? I do remember him feuding with Benoit and having the first WWE US title match where Eddie did play the heel, and continued to do so against Benoit and Tajiri.
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Post by The Genesis of KoOS on May 16, 2010 23:41:36 GMT -5
And around the time, I think that HHH was teasing a face turn after WM17, and had he not get injured, we would see a face HHH against a heel Austin at Summerslam 2001. I'm thinking it would have been a slow burn leading to Austin/HHH at WM X8.
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Post by David Otunga: Eternian at Law on May 17, 2010 0:01:50 GMT -5
I don't know if this counts as a heal turn but it was one of the worst lines I can recall.
The post Flair retirement angle where Batista blamed HBK and HBK faked the knee injury to win their match.
It was terrible were we really supposed to hate HBK for faking an injury to win a match that Batista clearly looked like an ass for starting a feud based on something Flair WANTED HBK to do?
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Post by jamielowndes {N} on May 17, 2010 1:13:24 GMT -5
I don't know if this counts as a heal turn but it was one of the worst lines I can recall. The post Flair retirement angle where Batista blamed HBK and HBK faked the knee injury to win their match. It was terrible were we really supposed to hate HBK for faking an injury to win a match that Batista clearly looked like an ass for starting a feud based on something Flair WANTED HBK to do? That wasnt a heel turn, that was just HBK using gamesmanship to win a match. He got called for it by Jericho, and THAT was the heel turn, when SRS Jericho was born. On its own, it seems redundant, but factor the bigger picture in with Jericho and it gets a lot better.
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AriadosMan
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Post by AriadosMan on May 17, 2010 1:19:49 GMT -5
In terms of making me not care about the individual involved, Rikishi, with Shad Gaspard as a close #2
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bob
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Post by bob on May 17, 2010 1:21:54 GMT -5
Linda, Rikishi, Austin, JR
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