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Post by Dave at the Movies on Feb 1, 2010 1:29:31 GMT -5
Seriously this would have been an awesome heel stable if it hadn't been for NWO.
The original incarnations of Dungeon were awful but by this point it was pretty sweet.
They had Meng, Barbarian, Hugh Morrus, Big Bubba, Konnan, Hart as manager, and Kevin Sullivan in a more serious leader role.
I think this is also why Raven's Flock didn't do as well as it could have.
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Post by noleafclover1980 on Feb 1, 2010 3:37:28 GMT -5
The problem with Raven's flock is they seemed like a bunch of jobbers who got their asses beat constantly for Raven.
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Post by jobsquad on Feb 1, 2010 4:09:25 GMT -5
Seriously this would have been an awesome heel stable if it hadn't been for NWO. The original incarnations of Dungeon were awful but by this point it was pretty sweet. They had Meng, Barbarian, Hugh Morrus, Big Bubba, Konnan, Hart as manager, and Kevin Sullivan in a more serious leader role. I think this is also why Raven's Flock didn't do as well as it could have. Ok, in my eyes as a pure mark then, WCW had the NWO, which was new, edgy, and just downright awesome. All other factions simply could not compare or were presented as victims/fed to the NWO. Plus the dungeon was not complete without the yeti:) |
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Post by Joe Neglia on Feb 1, 2010 4:41:01 GMT -5
The problem with Raven's flock is they seemed like a bunch of jobbers who got their asses beat constantly for Raven. Hell, some of them rarely had matches. I think I can count the number of actual matches Sick Boy and Lodi - combined - had on Nitro, Thunder and PPVs while with the Flock on one hand. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 1, 2010 5:30:44 GMT -5
The problem with Raven's flock is they seemed like a bunch of jobbers who got their asses beat constantly for Raven. Hell, some of them rarely had matches. I think I can count the number of actual matches Sick Boy and Lodi - combined - had on Nitro, Thunder and PPVs while with the Flock on one hand. Indeed. I love lackeys in wrestling, but man, don't give Raven more than they have time to do anything with. |
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Post by johnnyk9 on Feb 1, 2010 7:16:19 GMT -5
At the begining of 1997 Bubba Rogers goes to the NWO, then through out the year they would slowly disvolve and only the Faces of Fear and Jimmy Hart would remain until they parted ways
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Post by Joe Neglia on Feb 1, 2010 7:23:10 GMT -5
At the begining of 1997 Bubba Rogers goes to the NWO, then through out the year they would slowly disvolve and only the Faces of Fear and Jimmy Hart would remain until they parted ways Well, except for when they tried to beef it up again by bringing in Knobbs, Jerry Flynn and a couple others. It really wasn't the DoD anymore, but still the same essential stable. |
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Feb 1, 2010 10:32:35 GMT -5
The problem with Raven's flock is they seemed like a bunch of jobbers who got their asses beat constantly for Raven. Hell, some of them rarely had matches. I think I can count the number of actual matches Sick Boy and Lodi - combined - had on Nitro, Thunder and PPVs while with the Flock on one hand. What sucks is that they had Raven (great worker), Saturn (ditto) Kidman (coming into his own as a cruisrweight) and Riggs (decent enough) Those 4 alone (and maybe like one more flunky) would have been a pretty solid stable. When you add in like 3 or 4 more scrubs, it waters down the whole concept |
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Feb 1, 2010 13:02:36 GMT -5
Honestly I always though they should have done some type of Kevin Sullivan/Raven hybrid type of stable with Sullivan as the manager. it would have been awesome if the Flock had been darker and more Lost Boys type rather than just jobbers for the NWO.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Feb 1, 2010 14:14:24 GMT -5
I wanted to make the same thread, but I did the Faces of Fear one so I decided not to bog it down.
I agree totally....also I wish the Flock was HUGE!
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Post by toodarkmark on Feb 2, 2010 0:18:24 GMT -5
Honestly I always though they should have done some type of Kevin Sullivan/Raven hybrid type of stable with Sullivan as the manager. it would have been awesome if the Flock had been darker and more Lost Boys type rather than just jobbers for the NWO. Wow. I totally wanted him to do a Lost Boys/Goth thing back then too. Kevin Sullivan could be the dad. Raven would be Keifer. And I wanted Hugh Morrus, Kiddman, Chris Candido to be in it. I haven't thought about that since 97. We should book together. Oh and I hated the Dungeon of Doom but Meng and Barbarian should have done a assassins for hire thing. The DoD didn't make any sense. What did a mexican gangster, a big fat ex cop, two crazy island types, a joke manager and a crazy devilish guy have to do with each other? It just made no sense to me then. At least when he was trying to kill Hulkamania it was all Hulk friends turned to the "dark" side, but later it became like "Why?" |
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Post by Porky's Butthole on Feb 2, 2010 14:31:17 GMT -5
Seriously this would have been an awesome heel stable if it hadn't been for NWO. The original incarnations of Dungeon were awful but by this point it was pretty sweet. They had Meng, Barbarian, Hugh Morrus, Big Bubba, Konnan, Hart as manager, and Kevin Sullivan in a more serious leader role. I think this is also why Raven's Flock didn't do as well as it could have. Ok, in my eyes as a pure mark then, WCW had the NWO, which was new, edgy, and just downright awesome. All other factions simply could not compare or were presented as victims/fed to the NWO. Plus the dungeon was not complete without the YEH-TAAAAY:) Fixed for Tonyness.  |
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Post by mrjl on Feb 8, 2010 10:58:25 GMT -5
Hell, some of them rarely had matches. I think I can count the number of actual matches Sick Boy and Lodi - combined - had on Nitro, Thunder and PPVs while with the Flock on one hand. Indeed. I love lackeys in wrestling, but man, don't give Raven more than they have time to do anything with. I think Lodi had a legit injury almost immediately after joining the Flock |
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Post by skiller on Feb 8, 2010 19:06:55 GMT -5
The problem with Raven's flock is they seemed like a bunch of jobbers who got their asses beat constantly for Raven. Seriously, try to name five memebers of the flock who wren't Raven. |
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Feb 8, 2010 19:36:10 GMT -5
The problem with Raven's flock is they seemed like a bunch of jobbers who got their asses beat constantly for Raven. Seriously, try to name five memebers of the flock who wren't Raven. Kidman, Saturn, Reese, Riggs, Hammer, and Sick Boy come to mind. What do I win? |
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Post by skiller on Feb 8, 2010 20:38:19 GMT -5
Seriously, try to name five memebers of the flock who wren't Raven. Kidman, Saturn, Reese, Riggs, Hammer, and Sick Boy come to mind. What do I win? Who the hell is Hammer... Uh, anyway you win one of Kidman's fleas. |
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Post by Angus Mcloud on Feb 8, 2010 20:48:50 GMT -5
Kidman, Saturn, Reese, Riggs, Hammer, and Sick Boy come to mind. What do I win? Who the hell is Hammer... Uh, anyway you win one of Kidman's fleas. he was also known as Van Hammer The Flock being losers was always the selling point Raven took in losers making himself a good wrestler Raven never really suffered from having the losers around him and once a wrestler was no longer a loser they broke out on there own (Saturn,Kidman) |
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Post by Judas Heyman on May 23, 2010 10:05:10 GMT -5
Was Dungeon of Doom a take on Dungeons and Dragons, because it created so much controversy in the 80's. Maybe WCW wanted the 80's wrestling fans to tune into their shows as they would think...they are playing Dungeons and Dragons with Hulk Hogan!.WTF!   |
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Post by johnnyk9 on May 23, 2010 10:11:10 GMT -5
what about that leperchon charactor he should've been used more
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Post by toonami4life on May 23, 2010 15:38:59 GMT -5
The Leprechaun is probably where WWE got the idea for Hornswoggle.
Did anyone know why Konnan joined the Dungeon of Doom? He lost the U.S. title and then the next week or so he's with them
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