Most underrated Marvel Movie?

[The poster with no name]

For me I have to say DareDevil. I watch it everytime it is on.

[The Genesis of KoOS]

Ghost Rider

[AFN: Judge Shred]

Fantastic Four. It does more right than it does wrong, but all people can focus on is Sue and Doom.

[itputsthelotion]

Tough question. I think Punisher 2004 has some great qualities to it but is still flawed in every way.

But I don't think it's the most underrated.

[Deleted]

First Punisher movie. And the Blade trilogy.

[hollywood]

Punisher starring Thomas Jane

It absolutely captures the essence of Punisher comics in that era, with Frank as the supreme badass of all existence yet you can't help but feel totally heartbroken for the guy. It's also one of the only modern day westerns I've seen...and if it isn't, it's certainly one of the best. I've rewatched Marvel movies I enjoyed but were considered failures, and I still can't find any real fault with it. Just a great movie that deserved more notice than it got.

EDIT: I corrected that...cuz it's so easy to forget the Dolph Lundgren one.


Daredevil

This film wasn't perfect. But I'll say this, Ben Affleck was the best part of it...even though the hatred tends to get thrown at him the most. He played the role phenomenally well, and I really don't even like the guy. If anything, this film was evidence that (usually) it's a bad idea to cast a well-known actor in a superhero role. (Although, Iron Man kinda suggests otherwise).

My biggest problem was probably the Kingpin. While I like Michael Clark Duncan a lot, he's just not a great choice for a villain. I'm not sure what it is about him, but it's hard to see him as the bad guy. He's just so generally likeable, his face is gentle, and his baritone voice is more comforting than menacing. He tried his best, and God love him for it, but he's just not good as a despicable, corporate mobster.

Also, I found it a little bit on the racist side that they opted for hip-hop and rap as Kingpin's default soundtrack when we're introduced to him. The guy dresses in million dollar suits, uses zero street slang, and has an affinity for roses. If anything, his office should be filled with Beethovan, Mozart or something else classical. It just really felt like the only reason they selected that soundtrack was because Duncan was African American, because it didn't reflect on his character at all.

[Turd Ferguson]

When everyone says first Punisher movie, you guys mean the 2004 Thomas Jane version, right? Not the 1989 Dolph Lundgren one.

But yeah, Thomas Jane's Punisher was a really, really good movie.


Also, the first Blade was awesome.

[YAKMAN is ICHIBAN]

Aug 13, 2010 10:50:21 GMT -5 hollywood said:

(Although, Iron Man kinda suggests otherwise).

This has less to do with his star power, and more to do with him being perfect for the part, especially since it is pretty much himself (aside from the genius inventor part).

Iron Man really turned him into a hot commodity again.

[hollywood]

Aug 13, 2010 11:19:25 GMT -5 YAKMAN is ICHIBAN said:

Aug 13, 2010 10:50:21 GMT -5 hollywood said:

(Although, Iron Man kinda suggests otherwise).

This has less to do with his star power, and more to do with him being perfect for the part, especially since it is pretty much himself (aside from the genius inventor part).

Iron Man really turned him into a hot commodity again.

Good point. I guess that just proves me even more correct.

[W?Y]

Aug 13, 2010 10:50:21 GMT -5 hollywood said:

Punisher starring Thomas Jane

It absolutely captures the essence of Punisher comics in that era, with Frank as the supreme badass of all existence yet you can't help but feel totally heartbroken for the guy. It's also one of the only modern day westerns I've seen...and if it isn't, it's certainly one of the best. I've rewatched Marvel movies I enjoyed but were considered failures, and I still can't find any real fault with it. Just a great movie that deserved more notice than it got.

EDIT: I corrected that...cuz it's so easy to forget the Dolph Lundgren one.


Daredevil

This film wasn't perfect. But I'll say this, Ben Affleck was the best part of it...even though the hatred tends to get thrown at him the most. He played the role phenomenally well, and I really don't even like the guy. If anything, this film was evidence that (usually) it's a bad idea to cast a well-known actor in a superhero role. (Although, Iron Man kinda suggests otherwise).

My biggest problem was probably the Kingpin. While I like Michael Clark Duncan a lot, he's just not a great choice for a villain. I'm not sure what it is about him, but it's hard to see him as the bad guy. He's just so generally likeable, his face is gentle, and his baritone voice is more comforting than menacing. He tried his best, and God love him for it, but he's just not good as a despicable, corporate mobster.

Also, I found it a little bit on the racist side that they opted for hip-hop and rap as Kingpin's default soundtrack when we're introduced to him. The guy dresses in million dollar suits, uses zero street slang, and has an affinity for roses. If anything, his office should be filled with Beethovan, Mozart or something else classical. It just really felt like the only reason they selected that soundtrack was because Duncan was African American, because it didn't reflect on his character at all.

I endorse everything this man says.

[YAKMAN is ICHIBAN]

Elektra








Nah just kidding. Elektra was terrible.

[Drillbit Taylor]

Howard the Duck.

[Deleted]

Aug 13, 2010 11:49:24 GMT -5 W?Y said:

Aug 13, 2010 10:50:21 GMT -5 hollywood said:

Punisher starring Thomas Jane

It absolutely captures the essence of Punisher comics in that era, with Frank as the supreme badass of all existence yet you can't help but feel totally heartbroken for the guy. It's also one of the only modern day westerns I've seen...and if it isn't, it's certainly one of the best. I've rewatched Marvel movies I enjoyed but were considered failures, and I still can't find any real fault with it. Just a great movie that deserved more notice than it got.

EDIT: I corrected that...cuz it's so easy to forget the Dolph Lundgren one.


Daredevil

This film wasn't perfect. But I'll say this, Ben Affleck was the best part of it...even though the hatred tends to get thrown at him the most. He played the role phenomenally well, and I really don't even like the guy. If anything, this film was evidence that (usually) it's a bad idea to cast a well-known actor in a superhero role. (Although, Iron Man kinda suggests otherwise).

My biggest problem was probably the Kingpin. While I like Michael Clark Duncan a lot, he's just not a great choice for a villain. I'm not sure what it is about him, but it's hard to see him as the bad guy. He's just so generally likeable, his face is gentle, and his baritone voice is more comforting than menacing. He tried his best, and God love him for it, but he's just not good as a despicable, corporate mobster.

Also, I found it a little bit on the racist side that they opted for hip-hop and rap as Kingpin's default soundtrack when we're introduced to him. The guy dresses in million dollar suits, uses zero street slang, and has an affinity for roses. If anything, his office should be filled with Beethovan, Mozart or something else classical. It just really felt like the only reason they selected that soundtrack was because Duncan was African American, because it didn't reflect on his character at all.

I endorse everything this man says.

I also endorse this post.

[The Summer of Muskrat XVII]

Aug 13, 2010 10:50:21 GMT -5 hollywood said:

Punisher starring Thomas Jane

It absolutely captures the essence of Punisher comics in that era, with Frank as the supreme badass of all existence yet you can't help but feel totally heartbroken for the guy. It's also one of the only modern day westerns I've seen...and if it isn't, it's certainly one of the best. I've rewatched Marvel movies I enjoyed but were considered failures, and I still can't find any real fault with it. Just a great movie that deserved more notice than it got.

EDIT: I corrected that...cuz it's so easy to forget the Dolph Lundgren one.


Daredevil

This film wasn't perfect. But I'll say this, Ben Affleck was the best part of it...even though the hatred tends to get thrown at him the most. He played the role phenomenally well, and I really don't even like the guy. If anything, this film was evidence that (usually) it's a bad idea to cast a well-known actor in a superhero role. (Although, Iron Man kinda suggests otherwise).

My biggest problem was probably the Kingpin. While I like Michael Clark Duncan a lot, he's just not a great choice for a villain. I'm not sure what it is about him, but it's hard to see him as the bad guy. He's just so generally likeable, his face is gentle, and his baritone voice is more comforting than menacing. He tried his best, and God love him for it, but he's just not good as a despicable, corporate mobster.

Also, I found it a little bit on the racist side that they opted for hip-hop and rap as Kingpin's default soundtrack when we're introduced to him. The guy dresses in million dollar suits, uses zero street slang, and has an affinity for roses. If anything, his office should be filled with Beethovan, Mozart or something else classical. It just really felt like the only reason they selected that soundtrack was because Duncan was African American, because it didn't reflect on his character at all.

This. I loved Punisher (2004) and thought Daredevil was a damn entertaining film

[Legion]

Aug 13, 2010 10:50:21 GMT -5 hollywood said:

Punisher starring Thomas Jane

It absolutely captures the essence of Punisher comics in that era, with Frank as the supreme badass of all existence yet you can't help but feel totally heartbroken for the guy. It's also one of the only modern day westerns I've seen...and if it isn't, it's certainly one of the best. I've rewatched Marvel movies I enjoyed but were considered failures, and I still can't find any real fault with it. Just a great movie that deserved more notice than it got.

EDIT: I corrected that...cuz it's so easy to forget the Dolph Lundgren one.


Daredevil

This film wasn't perfect. But I'll say this, Ben Affleck was the best part of it...even though the hatred tends to get thrown at him the most. He played the role phenomenally well, and I really don't even like the guy. If anything, this film was evidence that (usually) it's a bad idea to cast a well-known actor in a superhero role. (Although, Iron Man kinda suggests otherwise).

My biggest problem was probably the Kingpin. While I like Michael Clark Duncan a lot, he's just not a great choice for a villain. I'm not sure what it is about him, but it's hard to see him as the bad guy. He's just so generally likeable, his face is gentle, and his baritone voice is more comforting than menacing. He tried his best, and God love him for it, but he's just not good as a despicable, corporate mobster.

Also, I found it a little bit on the racist side that they opted for hip-hop and rap as Kingpin's default soundtrack when we're introduced to him. The guy dresses in million dollar suits, uses zero street slang, and has an affinity for roses. If anything, his office should be filled with Beethovan, Mozart or something else classical. It just really felt like the only reason they selected that soundtrack was because Duncan was African American, because it didn't reflect on his character at all.

I agree with all this, although I would add that John Travolta didnt work for me in Punisher, for the same reason as you give for MCD not working as Kingpin - Travolta will always be his early roles, and doesn't work for me as a meant to be seriously taken bad guy.

[lovingway]

Aug 13, 2010 11:10:07 GMT -5 Turd Ferguson said:

When everyone says first Punisher movie, you guys mean the 2004 Thomas Jane version, right? Not the 1989 Dolph Lundgren one.

But yeah, Thomas Jane's Punisher was a really, really good movie.


Also, the first Blade was awesome.

I hope they do mean the 89 version I like it

[Bub (BLM)]

Aug 13, 2010 10:50:21 GMT -5 hollywood said:

Punisher starring Thomas Jane

It absolutely captures the essence of Punisher comics in that era, with Frank as the supreme badass of all existence yet you can't help but feel totally heartbroken for the guy. It's also one of the only modern day westerns I've seen...and if it isn't, it's certainly one of the best. I've rewatched Marvel movies I enjoyed but were considered failures, and I still can't find any real fault with it. Just a great movie that deserved more notice than it got.

EDIT: I corrected that...cuz it's so easy to forget the Dolph Lundgren one.


Daredevil

This film wasn't perfect. But I'll say this, Ben Affleck was the best part of it...even though the hatred tends to get thrown at him the most. He played the role phenomenally well, and I really don't even like the guy. If anything, this film was evidence that (usually) it's a bad idea to cast a well-known actor in a superhero role. (Although, Iron Man kinda suggests otherwise).

My biggest problem was probably the Kingpin. While I like Michael Clark Duncan a lot, he's just not a great choice for a villain. I'm not sure what it is about him, but it's hard to see him as the bad guy. He's just so generally likeable, his face is gentle, and his baritone voice is more comforting than menacing. He tried his best, and God love him for it, but he's just not good as a despicable, corporate mobster.

Also, I found it a little bit on the racist side that they opted for hip-hop and rap as Kingpin's default soundtrack when we're introduced to him. The guy dresses in million dollar suits, uses zero street slang, and has an affinity for roses. If anything, his office should be filled with Beethovan, Mozart or something else classical. It just really felt like the only reason they selected that soundtrack was because Duncan was African American, because it didn't reflect on his character at all.

I agree with both of these. I'd also like to add that the director's cut of Daredevil is phenomenal.

Also, I've seen a lot of people hate on Colin Farrell as Bullseye, and it makes me think they've never read a comic with Bullseye in it before. Farrell NAILED him.

[jamofpearls]

I still stand by my love for the Tom Jane Punisher, and Daredevil movie.

[Junkenstein]

Daredevil wasn't terrible or anything, it just could have been so much better and overall it felt like a massive missed opportunity.

As for the topic, I've always enjoyed Hulk '03. It's still flawed and Norton's was still the superior movie, but I can admire what Ang Lee was trying to do. Really strong cast also.

[AFN: Judge Shred]

Aug 13, 2010 12:43:02 GMT -5 Legion said:

Aug 13, 2010 10:50:21 GMT -5 hollywood said:

Punisher starring Thomas Jane

It absolutely captures the essence of Punisher comics in that era, with Frank as the supreme badass of all existence yet you can't help but feel totally heartbroken for the guy. It's also one of the only modern day westerns I've seen...and if it isn't, it's certainly one of the best. I've rewatched Marvel movies I enjoyed but were considered failures, and I still can't find any real fault with it. Just a great movie that deserved more notice than it got.

EDIT: I corrected that...cuz it's so easy to forget the Dolph Lundgren one.


Daredevil

This film wasn't perfect. But I'll say this, Ben Affleck was the best part of it...even though the hatred tends to get thrown at him the most. He played the role phenomenally well, and I really don't even like the guy. If anything, this film was evidence that (usually) it's a bad idea to cast a well-known actor in a superhero role. (Although, Iron Man kinda suggests otherwise).

My biggest problem was probably the Kingpin. While I like Michael Clark Duncan a lot, he's just not a great choice for a villain. I'm not sure what it is about him, but it's hard to see him as the bad guy. He's just so generally likeable, his face is gentle, and his baritone voice is more comforting than menacing. He tried his best, and God love him for it, but he's just not good as a despicable, corporate mobster.

Also, I found it a little bit on the racist side that they opted for hip-hop and rap as Kingpin's default soundtrack when we're introduced to him. The guy dresses in million dollar suits, uses zero street slang, and has an affinity for roses. If anything, his office should be filled with Beethovan, Mozart or something else classical. It just really felt like the only reason they selected that soundtrack was because Duncan was African American, because it didn't reflect on his character at all.

I agree with all this, although I would add that John Travolta didnt work for me in Punisher, for the same reason as you give for MCD not working as Kingpin - Travolta will always be his early roles, and doesn't work for me as a meant to be seriously taken bad guy.

Thanks to Face/Off I can see Travolta as a villain just fine.

I also did love Ang Lee's Hulk. He nailed the psychological side from Peter David's run on the comics.