Tooncrap: Simpsons Pilot

[forgottensinpwf]

Still technically on vacation, but here's a look at perhaps the darkest moment in the history of the Simpsons to tide you over.

Yep, even darker than "the Principal and the Pauper"

tooncrap.blogspot.com/2010/08/some-enchanted-evening-original-version.html

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

I thought you were inducting "Kill The Alligator And Run" there for a minute.

[forgottensinpwf]

Aug 11, 2010 21:18:35 GMT -5 EoE: Well There's Your Problem said:

I thought you were inducting "Kill The Alligator And Run" there for a minute.

Oh trust me, there are plenty of bad eps that could be inducted, and if I actually do so, that could be one of them. Though I didn't think it was that bad an episode.

[legendkiller1985]

Isn't this on the season 1 box set? If memory serve me correctly alot of it is like "There's No Disgrace like Home."

[forgottensinpwf]

Aug 11, 2010 21:27:19 GMT -5 legendkiller1985 said:

Isn't this on the season 1 box set? If memory serve me correctly alot of it is like "There's No Disgrace like Home."

Yep, it's from the Season 1 DVD.

Here's the whole clip (Commentary version)

[legendkiller1985]

ahhhh...i thought it looked familiar.

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Aug 11, 2010 21:18:35 GMT -5 EoE: Well There's Your Problem said:

I thought you were inducting "Kill The Alligator And Run" there for a minute.

WORST EPISODE EVER

[Threadkiller [Classic]]

Having watched the first two seasons on DVD, I seriously am amazed that the show ever got the chance to grow. I really don't think it can be attributed to being a matter of cultural perspective/time either. The show was just outrageously bad, in my opinion. Of course, it became a cultural milestone once they got away from being an animated version of The Family Circus. But until then? Man, it was like bad Dennis the Menace.

[celticjobber]

Since they're the seasons I remember watching as a kid (I was banned by my parents from watching the show around season 3 or so), I actually like the first 2 of seasons of the Simpsons the best.

And the bad art and animation is easily excusable for the pilot, it's hardly "crap".

[forgottensinpwf]

It's crap when it pretty much was the deciding point on if the show was even going to go to air PERIOD.

when James L. Brooks says that it's "s***" then you know it can't be good. It deserves it's spot.

[forgottensinpwf]

Aug 11, 2010 23:41:32 GMT -5 Matt Dunn said:

Didn't it only get better because they fired Klasky Csupo and re-did the pilot and the rest of the season with someone else and moved it back in the season?

Yes, it was remade and aired as the season finale.

[Orange]

Man they look horrible here I laughed at "Well, as realistic as a cartoon about yellow skinned humans with bulgy eyes and massive overbites could be at least."

[thesam07]

Man, those shots at 3.26 and 3.33 are possibly the worst poses of Marge ever.
People complain about Season 1 animation, but this proves it could of looked a lot worse.

[default]

Aug 11, 2010 23:01:37 GMT -5 Threadkiller [Classic] said:

Having watched the first two seasons on DVD, I seriously am amazed that the show ever got the chance to grow. I really don't think it can be attributed to being a matter of cultural perspective/time either. The show was just outrageously bad, in my opinion. Of course, it became a cultural milestone once they got away from being an animated version of The Family Circus. But until then? Man, it was like bad Dennis the Menace.

I'll agree with that for the most part. However, I still think Bart the General was just a great, great episode. It definitely could've been animated better, but at least it wasn't atrocious as the pilot.

[forgottensinpwf]

Aug 12, 2010 0:09:56 GMT -5 @thesam07 said:

Man, those shots at 3.26 and 3.33 are possibly the worst poses of Marge ever.
People complain about Season 1 animation, but this proves it could of looked a lot worse.

The sad thing is both those remained in the remade episode. I guess someone liked massive ass Marge.

[Sir Woodrow]

Oh dear lord James L Brooks is right.

[Futureraven: Beelzebruv]

Aug 12, 2010 0:30:29 GMT -5 default said:

Aug 11, 2010 23:01:37 GMT -5 Threadkiller [Classic] said:

Having watched the first two seasons on DVD, I seriously am amazed that the show ever got the chance to grow. I really don't think it can be attributed to being a matter of cultural perspective/time either. The show was just outrageously bad, in my opinion. Of course, it became a cultural milestone once they got away from being an animated version of The Family Circus. But until then? Man, it was like bad Dennis the Menace.

I'll agree with that for the most part. However, I still think Bart the General was just a great, great episode. It definitely could've been animated better, but at least it wasn't atrocious as the pilot.

And the first Sideshow Bob episode, there's a reason they brought him back.

[forgottensinpwf]

Aug 12, 2010 7:04:56 GMT -5 Futureraven: Beelzebruv said:

Aug 12, 2010 0:30:29 GMT -5 default said:

I'll agree with that for the most part. However, I still think Bart the General was just a great, great episode. It definitely could've been animated better, but at least it wasn't atrocious as the pilot.

And the first Sideshow Bob episode, there's a reason they brought him back.

I always liked "There's No Disgrace Like Home", even though it's so vastly different from what the show would become (Lisa as a troublemaker, Marge as a drunk, and Homer as the one embarrased by his family)

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FSin, in addition to the sh***y animation here, bear in mind that the people who made the animations (kinda like the guys shown at the sweatshop in "Itchy and Scratchy: The Movie") actually snuck in jokes themselves. Jokes that if were to be shown, the show would've been cancelled almost immediately.

You see, that very movie that they would watch in that episode, "The Happy Little Elves Meet Fuzzy Bear", there was a scene that they made in which the bear ripped off a head of an elf and licked its blood. I learned that from, of all places, a copy of "Uncle John's Bathroom Reader".

Now, because this footage (from the First Season DVD set) only shows a little bit, we don't see it (thankfully), but is in mentioned in commentaries from both this and for the revised episode.

[forgottensinpwf]

Aug 12, 2010 6:30:50 GMT -5 Sir Woodrow said:

Oh dear lord James L Brooks is right.

And Gabor Csupo was wickedly wrong.