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Post by jakemcclain on Feb 22, 2010 0:05:23 GMT -5
What feuds in wwe are remotely interesting? Randy Orton is destroying Sheamus, and Sheamus is playing honky tonk man with the heavyweight title. CM Punk is an awesome heel, and HHH destoyed his whole character by a few humorous one liners, then blowing heel momentum by pitching him out just as CM was getting over. WWE tournaments are crap. You get Carlito vs HHH first round. In TNA you get Anderson vs Angle. You never know who wins that match. The E has got to improve or Vince will start getting concerned. So getting kicked out of the rumble killed Punk completely and tournaments are extremely important. Did I miss something? No, getting kicked out doesn't get you killed, otherwise Undertaker would be dead the minute Maven got the surprise elimination. I'm talking about HHH talking about not smoking, drinking, and doing drugs also, and blasting Punk's gimmick in the process. Counter that with CM getting all this momentum, and HHH just killing it dead throwing him out right away. Oh, and tournaments done RIGHT are extremely important. WWE's predictable tournament formats are irritating. TNA's are unpredictable, exciting, and fun.
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Post by hollywood on Feb 22, 2010 0:44:34 GMT -5
TNeh?
That's what Vince'd say if he were Canadian. Yup.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2010 0:56:45 GMT -5
BRING ME A SMALL CUBAN CHILD FOR I AM HUNGRY!
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Post by dpg on Feb 22, 2010 8:40:40 GMT -5
The WWE is in a similair position to before the monday night wars, it's the biggest promotion by far with the most money, however instead of having WCW as it's opponants it has TNA. Now TNA doesn't have the cash or recognition that WCW had, but it is better run. Despite some peoples claims on here it's booking team seems much more settled and interested in pushing the youngsters (AJ, Abyss, Dinero, Anderson) plus it makes a small profit. Hogan coming in hasn't been the apocalypse as some people have claimed too, in fact he's helped a great deal with storylines, as has Bischoff. Having two well known guys put over little known youngsters has done a great deal for them, just look at Eric Young over the past few weeks. He's now seen as a major player because Hogan's said how great he is and he's Nash's best bud. The WWE won't have TNA coming close to them for years, but while TNA doesn't have Ted's millions or TNT's mainstream cable exposure, it has a better backroom and a much more interested owner.
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Post by Bram wants to 'urt you on Feb 23, 2010 13:49:30 GMT -5
I'm Vince McMahon and (although I'd never show it) I'm secretly trying to find out who I need to fire for not copyrighting the whole mic-dropping-from-the-rafters/saying your surname twice schtick.
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Post by valley22 on Feb 23, 2010 15:27:35 GMT -5
If Im Vinnie Mac...
A. Book myself to make out with divas B. Not worry about TNA, but when certain guys contracts come up, throw a ton of cash at them. C. Go old school..put on killer Free shows on NBC the nights of TNA PPVs.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Feb 23, 2010 18:06:22 GMT -5
WWE and TNA's fanbases converge a little, but there's still a lot of segregation between them- so for the time being, whatever acclaim or criticism WWE programming receives won't be due to any pressure TNA is putting on them.
TNA's ding a good job growing in their own right- but "their own right" are the key words. They still need to become established enough to where someone who doesn't follow wrestling could think of them alongside WWE, if pro wrestling came up in a conversation.
Not only that, the two companies' marketing strategies are pretty different. WWE has its eye on a younger audience and people who may never have seen a wrestling show before, whereas TNA is focused on a (somewhat) older crowd along with long-time wrestling devotees. That wasn't the case with WWF and WCW in the 90's- both promotions were more balanced in their appeal to specific demographics.
And I like a bit of Britney as well as some Waits.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 24, 2010 8:08:00 GMT -5
If WWE is Britney, though, what is TNA? Mandy Moore? Vitamin C? I don't think they're Christina, at least not quite yet.
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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Feb 24, 2010 9:44:38 GMT -5
If WWE is Britney, though, what is TNA? Mandy Moore? Vitamin C? I don't think they're Christina, at least not quite yet. I don't know, have they started broadcasting in Spanish?
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Post by dpg on Feb 24, 2010 12:43:59 GMT -5
If WWE is Britney, though, what is TNA? Mandy Moore? Vitamin C? I don't think they're Christina, at least not quite yet. I don't know, have they started broadcasting in Spanish? They've had a spanish announce team for a few years now, back when LAX started if not before.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 24, 2010 12:53:01 GMT -5
I don't know, have they started broadcasting in Spanish? They've had a spanish announce team for a few years now, back when LAX started if not before. I think he was more making a joke at Aguilera's expense.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2010 3:04:42 GMT -5
If I was Vince McMahon and I had to take some course of action against TNA instead of just ignoring them, I'd probably just round up my money and a few potential investors and buy it out. From there, move everyone who's already a big star who can actually move to Raw or SmackDown, send the rest that's any good to FCW awaiting entry into NXT, and sell the blood of folks like the Nasty Boys periodically then pay them with what money's earned from it.
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Post by toddpolt on Feb 25, 2010 4:16:39 GMT -5
Congratulations you're rich! ;D But seriously if you are Vince McMahon, are you scared even in the least bit about TNA? I don't think TNA can be a threat to WWE right now, but given time I think TNA could maybe worry Vince a little bit, especially if they have solid numbers on Monday nights. So, do you think Vince is/will be scared of TNA? Yeah it could. And how long have people said that TNA could? Way too many years perhaps.
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Post by machomuta on Feb 25, 2010 9:57:59 GMT -5
Once again, the money argument. By that reasoning Britney Spears is a better musician than Tom Waits. She certainly sells more, and more people buy her albums, there for she MUST be better. If Tom Waits is the better musician, why isnt he selling more albums then Spears?
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Post by poi zen rana on Feb 25, 2010 11:12:50 GMT -5
Music industry being all about musicianship is as silly a premise as wrestling being solely about in ring talent.
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Feb 25, 2010 11:18:43 GMT -5
If WWE is Britney, though, what is TNA? Mandy Moore? Vitamin C? I don't think they're Christina, at least not quite yet. I don't know, have they started broadcasting in Spanish?
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Post by Clarence "Showstealer" Mason on Feb 25, 2010 11:29:01 GMT -5
No I'm not scared or concerned, nor should I be yet. TNA's rating for their number one show barely beats our number 4. And most WWE fans hate TNA so even with the move to Monday nights 90-95% of our viewership is safe
I'm far more concerned with UFC, they're the ones holding pay per views on the same weekend as us and outdrawing us 2-1
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Post by tarheelfan on Feb 25, 2010 20:59:33 GMT -5
No, and he shouldn't. WWE is light years ahead of TNA right now. Don't believe me, go book a Dome show for TNA and see how "full" the show is. Then go watch WWE sell 55,000+ tickets for Wrestlemania. See WWE's "bad" show constantly double the ratings of the so-called "way better" TNA show. See WWE's products constantly outsell TNA's products by a large, large number. (T-shirts, videos, video games). WWE, even in bad years, is making huge profits. They have a great track record with television networks and will probably always have a home. Until TNA can start traveling the country, filling arenas constantly with 5000+ fans every show, get 10000+ fans constantly for every PPV and start having TNA products having comparable sales to WWE, it really isn;t worth Vince's time to worry about TNA. One day TNA may pose a threat to Vince, right now, they are not. Opinions on which show is better doesn't mean a thing because its all subjective. The main, and only, thing to look at is $$$, which WWE makes plenty of. I stopped reading this thread at this post because I agree 100 percent here on these mentioned reasons why TNA is not a threat to the WWE currently. The WWE may be putting out a quite frankly garbage product IMHO but the bottomline is that they are not hurting on the business side of things which frankly is all that matters.
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