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Post by Orange on Feb 18, 2010 23:43:15 GMT -5
Congratulations you're rich! ;D But seriously if you are Vince McMahon, are you scared even in the least bit about TNA? I don't think TNA can be a threat to WWE right now, but given time I think TNA could maybe worry Vince a little bit, especially if they have solid numbers on Monday nights. So, do you think Vince is/will be scared of TNA?
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Post by sphere on Feb 18, 2010 23:47:17 GMT -5
The only way that TNA would worry Vince is if Vince buys TNA and it fails like WWE's ECW.
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Post by Krimzon on Feb 18, 2010 23:49:27 GMT -5
Scooby & Shaggy wouldn't even be afraid of TNA if they owned the WWE.
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Post by Michael Coello on Feb 18, 2010 23:49:54 GMT -5
No, of course not, cause I'M VINCE MCMAHON, DAMMIT!!!!
Seriously, though, he probably isn't worried, but he probably will either keep an eye on or have someone else keep an eye on them to make sure nothing serious happens, in case. If all the rumors of Vince being so competitive backstage, you'd think he'd welcome this.
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Post by jobsquad on Feb 18, 2010 23:50:27 GMT -5
Yes, from an eventual ratings standpoint, I am terrified. I am watching Raw get lower ratings despite having all the stars working with each other. I am seeing my daughter literally flush our show down the toilet, and I am wondering what is going to happen this time, seeing as how I have to be TV PG while the other promotion does not.
But I also know it will take a long time for TNA to reach my current ratings level, so hopefully something goes right and I connect with more people, thus increasing my advantage. But I know I have 2 years to do something, or at least get someone talented behind creative in order to get things going again.
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Post by barley96 on Feb 19, 2010 0:16:03 GMT -5
It is very possible that TNA could grow like WCW did. So yes I would be a little worried and I would try to kill TNA before they can hurt WWE.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Feb 19, 2010 0:38:13 GMT -5
No the biggest threat to WWF was Ted Turners checkbook. Vince has the bigger checkbook now. While some wrestlers may play the role of Sting or Taker and remain loyal to the company that made them in the end the man with the money gets what he wants. Heck it isn't even just money. Want to fade into an announcer role after wrestling? WWE has spots open TNA has a line. Get behind JB and Don West. Want guaranteed TV time? WWE 2 2 hour shows plus superstars plus NXT. Want to be on the biggest PPV? Welcome to Wrestlemania. If anybody looks to be a breakout boom starting star Vince has enough to lure them away in almost every case. Unless it ends up being a Kennedy or Lashley who may have beef with Vince.
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Post by jakemcclain on Feb 19, 2010 0:56:40 GMT -5
He isn't, but if I was him, I'd be concerned.
They've lost a million viewers since last year, and Hogan's TNA is constantly putting on top quality shows.
When TNA does a tournament, you seriously don't know who will win. 1st round matches are like Anderson vs Angle. When WWE does a tournament, a first round match is HHH vs Carlito. Gee, I wonder who will win THAT one!
TNA keeps these shows up, it's going to get VERY interesting.
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Post by wcw on Feb 19, 2010 1:05:27 GMT -5
If I am Vince McMahon I am not scared but more concerned. Not that I should be in the near future as TNA is not really a threat in the next year or so. BUT I do consider TNA something that could hurt my market share down the line.
If my kid fans who I have built up for almost the last 4 years look to graduate to a more edgy product that TNA can provide I might loose some of my market share.
Now I doubt unless TNA does all the right moves that at least for the next we won't see TNA come within a full one and a half rating points of RAW.
So no I am not scared but I do feel a sense of concern that I could be facing some sort of competition that will make me a less dominant number 1.
Also I know a lot will say that Vince has the bigger check book BUT keep in mind the WWE is a corporation they do have to be very fiscally sound as a company. Vince actually has a boss in his shareholders. While TNA is a private company they can take short term losses in order to build a brand.
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Post by Thank You Shawn on Feb 19, 2010 1:31:32 GMT -5
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Post by Professor Chaos on Feb 19, 2010 2:30:43 GMT -5
He's not, but he should be. TNA is much more entertaining to me than RAW anymore, thanks to DVR I can watch both so dunno if ratings wars even matter much anymore. For a show that goes from 9-11 on weeknights though I think they're kidding themselves if they think the main demographic watching is 8 years old. Teenagers and Adults are probably gonna prefer the more adult oriented TNA. I was actually in shock when Pope kept calling Flair a dick.... I don't remember anyone even saying that in the attitude era WWF.
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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Feb 19, 2010 8:54:45 GMT -5
He's not, and he shouldn't be. It's only a matter of time and bullets before TNA shoots itself in the foot. TNA becoming real competition for the WWE would take a damn miracle at this point. You remember the USFL? They had the good sense not to go head to head against the NFL. TNA's taking an awful huge risk by going to Monday nights. Granted, the risk is lessened by people DVRing one show or another, and DVR ratings still count, but the point is, TNA will never beat the WWE.
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Post by Objection! on Feb 19, 2010 9:23:18 GMT -5
I want to just say in respect to the adult oriented TNA, I NEVER and I mean EVER thought I'd see a wrestler go to the ring with a male escort and a female escort. But I did last night when Orlando Jordan went to the ring. I really have to give TNA props for the sheer balls of putting him forward as a bisexual, when others would cover it up. It could make for interesting fued fodder.
Has this been done before and I just haven't seen it?
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Post by jakemcclain on Feb 19, 2010 9:39:43 GMT -5
He's not, and he shouldn't be. It's only a matter of time and bullets before TNA shoots itself in the foot. TNA becoming real competition for the WWE would take a damn miracle at this point. You remember the USFL? They had the good sense not to go head to head against the NFL. TNA's taking an awful huge risk by going to Monday nights. Granted, the risk is lessened by people DVRing one show or another, and DVR ratings still count, but the point is, TNA will never beat the WWE. The USFL DID fail, regardless. Guess what man, to make something of yourself in life, you have to take some major risks. TNA's done all it can do in the near decade they've been around, and now it's time to take it to the monster. Vince will HAVE to put on a top quality show eventually. Hogan's shows are far superior in talent, storylines, and quality of matches. Yup, they are far smaller, but people are starting to take notice.
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Post by BxB on Feb 19, 2010 9:46:37 GMT -5
TNA right now is as big a risk to WWE as ECW was to WWF, back in the attitude era. Their ratings are simply too low for me to get worried, if I was Vince. And seeing how poor TNA is with promoting their product (they didn't even mention they were going back to the Thursday time slot on Jan 4th) I wouldn't need to worry for a while.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2010 9:49:58 GMT -5
TNA needs to get on a better network first. If it does, then it would be time to worry.
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Post by Full of IT. on Feb 19, 2010 9:59:03 GMT -5
He's not, and he shouldn't be. It's only a matter of time and bullets before TNA shoots itself in the foot. TNA becoming real competition for the WWE would take a damn miracle at this point. You remember the USFL? They had the good sense not to go head to head against the NFL. TNA's taking an awful huge risk by going to Monday nights. Granted, the risk is lessened by people DVRing one show or another, and DVR ratings still count, but the point is, TNA will never beat the WWE. The USFL DID fail, regardless. Guess what man, to make something of yourself in life, you have to take some major risks. TNA's done all it can do in the near decade they've been around, and now it's time to take it to the monster. Vince will HAVE to put on a top quality show eventually. Hogan's shows are far superior in talent, storylines, and quality of matches. Yup, they are far smaller, but people are starting to take notice. Yup. Last night I finally got to sit down and watch the whole show from start to finish which is something I haven't been able to do since their live monday broadcast. I have to say that not once did I change the channel and I was genuinely interested the whole two hours. I felt like I was 15, 16 again watching a WRESTLING program. Beat downs and SAVES (something I don't think WWE does much anymore), run ins, interesting and passionate characters, story lines with emotion, etc. If they keep this up I think I'm finally ready to board the TNA train. WWE hasn't been able to hold my interest for more than 5 or 10 minutes lately.
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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Feb 19, 2010 10:06:23 GMT -5
He's not, and he shouldn't be. It's only a matter of time and bullets before TNA shoots itself in the foot. TNA becoming real competition for the WWE would take a damn miracle at this point. You remember the USFL? They had the good sense not to go head to head against the NFL. TNA's taking an awful huge risk by going to Monday nights. Granted, the risk is lessened by people DVRing one show or another, and DVR ratings still count, but the point is, TNA will never beat the WWE. The USFL DID fail, regardless. Guess what man, to make something of yourself in life, you have to take some major risks. TNA's done all it can do in the near decade they've been around, and now it's time to take it to the monster. Vince will HAVE to put on a top quality show eventually. Hogan's shows are far superior in talent, storylines, and quality of matches. Yup, they are far smaller, but people are starting to take notice. Actually, no he won't. He could put Chris Jericho out there reading his 1003 moves, and he'd still get triple the ratings of the ADD-booked TNA. Time and bullets, guy.
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Post by Soultastic on Feb 19, 2010 10:08:23 GMT -5
If I were Vince McMahon I wouldn't be scared, but I would destroy TNA as fast as possible. Better safe than sorry
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Post by Natalya's Ass Fanboy on Feb 19, 2010 10:13:32 GMT -5
He's not, and he shouldn't be. It's only a matter of time and bullets before TNA shoots itself in the foot. TNA becoming real competition for the WWE would take a damn miracle at this point. You remember the USFL? They had the good sense not to go head to head against the NFL. TNA's taking an awful huge risk by going to Monday nights. Granted, the risk is lessened by people DVRing one show or another, and DVR ratings still count, but the point is, TNA will never beat the WWE. The USFL never put on anywhere near the product that the NFL did. TNA is better than the WWE, and not by a small margin. That's why your analogy fails.
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