What's the alternative to the Impact Zone

[wcw]

A lot of people (Myself included) that the Impact Zone makes TNA look small time and inferior to the product of the WWE. However the Impact Zone saves TNA money and what is the alternative to it.

Tour live arenas? 1- TNA can't really fill up an arena without giving away tickets. 2- It makes TNA talent have to travel more which hurts the draw of TNA to potential talent (Also it makes it hard to tape a show the next day if you have to travel to another arena.

Or and this is the only probable solution find a bigger place to shoot their shows. My only question is where in Florida (Which is where TNA operates) can they find an arena bigger then the Impact Zone?

I feel like if they can find a 3000-6000 capacity arena (How much the Impact Zone hold it can't be much more then 1500) to tape shows then they will have a much better presentation to their show which in the outset makes their product mean more and look like actual competition.

[AriadosMan]

Until TNA is a big enough draw to do mainstream tours (and that's an "if" rather than a "when") I don't think they have an alternative.

That said, shooting PPVs out of the Impact Zone makes TNA look like its audience is pathetically small. Even that's better than a big but mostly empty arena, though.

[wcw]

Mar 19, 2010 1:41:27 GMT -5 AriadosMan said:

Until TNA is a big enough draw to do mainstream tours (and that's an "if" rather than a "when") I don't think they have an alternative.

That said, shooting PPVs out of the Impact Zone makes TNA look like its audience is pathetically small. Even that's better than a big but mostly empty arena, though.

Is there a minor league hockey arena or a mid level concert arena they could find lease out the space every other Monday/Tuesday. I mean in any metro area there are mid level arenas that hold 3000-6000 or more (Think of just the lower bowl of a major arena)

I think giving away free tickets they could fill up a 3000-6000 capacity place 4 times a month. People like free things and they currently are able to easily get 1500ish people to fill up the Impact Zone.

[AriadosMan]

Mar 19, 2010 1:53:55 GMT -5 @wcw said:

Mar 19, 2010 1:41:27 GMT -5 AriadosMan said:

Until TNA is a big enough draw to do mainstream tours (and that's an "if" rather than a "when") I don't think they have an alternative.

That said, shooting PPVs out of the Impact Zone makes TNA look like its audience is pathetically small. Even that's better than a big but mostly empty arena, though.

Is there a minor league hockey arena or a mid level concert arena they could find lease out the space every other Monday/Tuesday. I mean in any metro area there are mid level arenas that hold 3000-6000 or more (Think of just the lower bowl of a major arena)

I think giving away free tickets they could fill up a 3000-6000 capacity place 4 times a month. People like free things and they currently are able to easily get 1500ish people to fill up the Impact Zone.

That would be a good idea if they could get it cheap, but I heard on this board that booking the smaller arenas is more expensive than booking the big ones (I really don't understand the logic in this, but...). IF TNA could somehow book an arena of the size you mentioned for its PPVs for an affordable price, I think it would work much better than the Impact Zone.

[wcw]

Mar 19, 2010 1:58:20 GMT -5 AriadosMan said:

Mar 19, 2010 1:53:55 GMT -5 @wcw said:

Is there a minor league hockey arena or a mid level concert arena they could find lease out the space every other Monday/Tuesday. I mean in any metro area there are mid level arenas that hold 3000-6000 or more (Think of just the lower bowl of a major arena)

I think giving away free tickets they could fill up a 3000-6000 capacity place 4 times a month. People like free things and they currently are able to easily get 1500ish people to fill up the Impact Zone.

That would be a good idea if they could get it cheap, but I heard on this board that booking the smaller arenas is more expensive than booking the big ones (I really don't understand the logic in this, but...). IF TNA could somehow book an arena of the size you mentioned for its PPVs for an affordable price, I think it would work much better than the Impact Zone.

I think that if you can guarantee an arena dates of 64 a year (Lets just say 52 impacts plus 12 PPV's) you could get them to come down of their asking price by a lot. I can't imagine a Minor League Hockey arena or just some random PAC or Concert arena cost that much more then Universal Studios in terms of asking price.

I think TNA has looked into this and if it was cost effective they would have done it.

[Bubble Lead]

Who really thinks that moving out of Orlando and shooting in real arenas is going to suddenly spike TNAs ratings, or ever have any effect on them at all?

What should TNA spend money on? A flashy set to compete with WWE razzle dazzle, or perhaps advertising to garner ratings and a fanbase whose money will provide them a flashy set later?

[Deleted]

I don't think they could actually fill big arenas, but going to places like the Hammerstein Ballroom/Manhattan Center, the ECW Arena, and other venues that are sort of a big deal on an indy level could probably draw sellout crowds of hardcore wrestling fans. The crowds might not be the size of WWE's but they'd be into the wrestling and do their chants and stuff.

[slickster]

Right now, TNA can only draw 1000 paid in the US. Add in comps and you might be able to do a 2500-seat building.

For those worried about TNA touring too much, remember that they are already doing 2 dates virtually every weekend. It's not as if they are working 5 days a month.

TNA needs to run events in ballrooms or smaller athletic facilities like ECW did. Since they're also alternating between live and taped TVs, iMPACT! should be done on the road.

Sunday PPV: Frontier Fieldhouse in Chicago Ridge, IL
Monday iMPACT: Muellner Building in Hart Park in Wauwatosa, WI (Milwaukee, WI)
Tuesday iMPACT Taping: Resch Center in Green Bay, WI

This means people will be on the road more each month, but it also means TNA can actually draw revenue from iMPACT gate receipts when they're outside of the Impact Zone.

[JMA]

Anything that moves away from the final days of WCW is a good thing.

[Rorschach]

Heh...it might just be me, but I think a TNA show from Club La Vela (that IS still in business right?) would kick seven types of ass.

Imagine Shark Boy stalking Madison from the pool! ;D

[Ken Ivory]

I think their best bet is to stay in the Impact Zone for now as it would be more cost effective than going on the road. The last thing TNA want to do is bleed money needlessly.

What they DO need to do though is go live EVERY Monday night. Is it any wonder this past Imact's ratings were down? It was pre-taped so fans knew what was gonna happen a week in advance!

[Dave at the Movies]

Mar 19, 2010 2:31:10 GMT -5 @therealoblivion said:

I don't think they could actually fill big arenas, but going to places like the Hammerstein Ballroom/Manhattan Center, the ECW Arena, and other venues that are sort of a big deal on an indy level could probably draw sellout crowds of hardcore wrestling fans. The crowds might not be the size of WWE's but they'd be into the wrestling and do their chants and stuff.

I think this is the best option. Hold a few Impacts at Hammerstein and even the ECW Arena and get into that Northeast rowdy indy wrestling crowd. I think it would be very good for TNA to hit those type of places first before they try to go to big arenas or metropolitan 5,000 seat areas.

[Red Impact]

Mar 19, 2010 2:27:13 GMT -5 Bubble Lead said:

Who really thinks that moving out of Orlando and shooting in real arenas is going to suddenly spike TNAs ratings, or ever have any effect on them at all?

What should TNA spend money on? A flashy set to compete with WWE razzle dazzle, or perhaps advertising to garner ratings and a fanbase whose money will provide them a flashy set later?

It's less about TV ratings and more about getting admission revenues.

[Apricots And A Pear Tree]

Mar 19, 2010 7:31:48 GMT -5 Dave at the Movies said:

Mar 19, 2010 2:31:10 GMT -5 @therealoblivion said:

I don't think they could actually fill big arenas, but going to places like the Hammerstein Ballroom/Manhattan Center, the ECW Arena, and other venues that are sort of a big deal on an indy level could probably draw sellout crowds of hardcore wrestling fans. The crowds might not be the size of WWE's but they'd be into the wrestling and do their chants and stuff.

I think this is the best option. Hold a few Impacts at Hammerstein and even the ECW Arena and get into that Northeast rowdy indy wrestling crowd. I think it would be very good for TNA to hit those type of places first before they try to go to big arenas or metropolitan 5,000 seat areas.

If they go to either of those places they better put on a really good show or else......
*Language*

[Back to being Cenanuff]

The casino that's being built here is putting in an MMA/boxing arena. That's probably the next step for TNA. If they can consistently fill a place that size, g'head.

[ICBM]

I know this may seem like suggesting a step back as far as a national product is concerned but if they elected to do more dates in the south over a two year period and started taping some of those for clip shows or even Impact it'd give you a foothold in a wide area with loyal fans willing to pay. I say the south because they will buy tickets to wrestling period. I am from the south and feel comfortable speaking for the rest of NASCAR land. Keep doing shows outside the area here and there (ST. Louis, NJ, TX, Minnasota) but develop a wide area of dependable arenas you can draw in. If they just tried to suddenly do Impact on the road it would triple expenses overnight and if it didn't work(fans not ready to accept it) than TNA could be out of buisiness inside of a year. They screwed themselves by doing TV first w/o road shows 7 years ago. but 7 years ago it was the only safe investment for JJ and JJ