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Post by machomuta on Jun 28, 2010 5:52:21 GMT -5
Hogan sucked badly. He had about two moves I can see that you know nothing about wrestling. Ric Flair, Cena. Rock and Bret Hart must be bad too then
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Post by dlg3000 on Jun 28, 2010 7:15:36 GMT -5
Lou albano or gorilla monsoon. and would Jim duggan be considered a "legend"? As far as Jim Duggan goes, I consider him a legend.
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Post by dsriggs on Jun 28, 2010 7:42:33 GMT -5
There's your answer right there!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2010 7:51:36 GMT -5
Does Mr. Pogo count as a bad wrestler? He was ballsy, but does he know any wrestling holds? Pogo's interesting in that he actually had a decent amateur background and trained at the New Japan Pro Wrestling Dojo. He teamed with Kendo Nagasaki and was a "normal" wrestler for a full seventeen years before he started doing death matches.
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Post by Jobes on Jun 28, 2010 8:17:21 GMT -5
The most popular wrestler of all time was a TERRIBLE worker.
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Post by FrankGotch on Jun 28, 2010 9:40:46 GMT -5
The most popular wrestler of all time was a TERRIBLE worker. Hogan was actually very good in the ring for a man his size. When he dumbed down his style to clotheslines, body slams, and brawling he was just doing what the audience wanted him to do. Fans didn't want to see Hogan using arm bars, wrist locks, and doing hip tosses. They wanted to see Hogan beat people up, so thats what he did.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jun 28, 2010 11:32:01 GMT -5
Hogan sucked badly. He had about two moves I can see that you know nothing about wrestling. Ric Flair, Cena. Rock and Bret Hart must be bad too then Drop the attitude.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jun 28, 2010 13:32:12 GMT -5
With Hogan, I think Jake Roberts said it best. "He was as good as he needed to be."
If you check out his Japanese stuff, he could bust out the killer moves and move technical stuff if necessary. But back in the states, if you can do the the standard "big heel beats down face, face starts to hulk up, fights back, and pins heel" and still get a huge response from the crowd, why mess with it? The idea was to get the crowd into his work, believe the story of the match, and buy tickets. In that respect he was phenomenal.
Hulk's stuff with Savage and Warrior in particular was awesome because the laid it out and as a result, everyone knew how to play their parts.
In fact his work really didn't suffer until he got to WCW, and got so insecure to the point where he didn't sell his opponent's offense, and his in match comebacks meant much less. Hulking up doesn't mean much if the crowd didn't buy you were in any real danger. Then when he turned heel and actually had to do more offense instead of just selling with the occasional comeback... well he definitely started looking a bit dubious in ring.
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Post by mydixiewrecked on Jun 28, 2010 13:39:37 GMT -5
Warrior, easily Warrior
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Post by brackus on Jun 28, 2010 13:40:39 GMT -5
Andre the Giant without a doubt. Sure, he was handicapped because of his size, but Big Show manages to show dropkicks even though he has the same size. Hey, look how fast Yokozuna was. The "Warrior had to adjust his speed to Andre".sastory shows how immoble Andre was.
People mentioning Warrior as the worst worker is ridicoulus. They probably never watched the WmVI main event or Warrior vs Rude at SummerSlam89.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jun 28, 2010 13:42:58 GMT -5
Andre's a mixed case, because his best work when he was younger and more agile was either not taped, or the footage is lost.
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Post by mydixiewrecked on Jun 28, 2010 13:48:16 GMT -5
Andre the Giant without a doubt. Sure, he was handicapped because of his size, but Big Show manages to show dropkicks even though he has the same size. Hey, look how fast Yokozuna was. The "Warrior had to adjust his speed to Andre".sastory shows how immoble Andre was. People mentioning Warrior as the worst worker is ridicoulus. They probably never watched the WmVI main event or Warrior vs Rude at SummerSlam89. 1. don't make assumptions, I've seen been watching wrestling since the very early 80, I saw both SS89 and WMVI dozens of times each, 2 it sounds like you're are the one that is basing his opinion on late 80's Andre, as he was actually quite mobile and got around the ring just fine in his hayday 1. don't make assumptions, I've seen been watching wrestling since the very early 80, I saw both SS89 and WMVI dozens of times each, 2 it sounds like you're are the one that is basing his opinion on late 80's Andre, as he was actually quite mobile and got around the ring just fine in his hayday
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Jun 28, 2010 13:48:33 GMT -5
Andre the Giant without a doubt. Sure, he was handicapped because of his size, but Big Show manages to show dropkicks even though he has the same size. Hey, look how fast Yokozuna was. The "Warrior had to adjust his speed to Andre".sastory shows how immoble Andre was. People mentioning Warrior as the worst worker is ridicoulus. They probably never watched the WmVI main event or Warrior vs Rude at SummerSlam89. Andre in his younger days, before the health problems really started to bring him down, was quite mobile and athletic for a man of his size. I've seen both of those Warrior matches and plenty of others, and I'd still probably vote for him, if I considered him a legend.
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Post by The only Buzz Sawyer mark ever on Jun 28, 2010 13:51:01 GMT -5
It's definitely Big Daddy. Everyone - I mean *everyone* in the UK knows who Big Daddy is today, and wrestling has been off terrestrial TV since 1988. I think that qualifies him as a legend. As for his work, check out this suckfest: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSro4l_0cE
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Post by FrankGotch on Jun 28, 2010 13:52:20 GMT -5
This question only has one real answer BIG DADDY.
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Post by don on Jun 28, 2010 14:47:05 GMT -5
I've got to go with Mil Mascaras. The guy was is the Hulk Hogan of Mexico, but I have never seen him in anything even remotely decent. He is one of the most horrible wrestlers I've ever had the dissatisfaction of wrestling. When you couple that with his alleged ego according to Chris Jericho and Mick Foley in their respective biographies, and I think he should win this hands down.
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Post by Triple Kelly on Jun 28, 2010 18:17:40 GMT -5
Snuka, hands down.
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on Jun 28, 2010 19:52:06 GMT -5
Hogan sucked badly. He had about two moves and all his matches followed the same format- beatdown, hulk-up, second wind for the win. That being said, the dude had A LOT of charisma and iconic status, both in WWF and in nWo (at least for the first year). For a guy like Hogan, it would make no sense to do high-flying/technical maneuvers because not only would it do unnecessary damage to his body, but heck let's face it: Hogan's character in the US would be a little goofy. That being said, Hogan's knowledge of technical wrestling is deceptive. Go to Youtube and look for Hogan's Japan matches. You'll be shocked.
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Post by Son of a Pregnant Dog on Jun 29, 2010 1:30:44 GMT -5
It's definitely Big Daddy. Everyone - I mean *everyone* in the UK knows who Big Daddy is today, and wrestling has been off terrestrial TV since 1988. I think that qualifies him as a legend. As for his work, check out this suckfest: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSro4l_0cEWow, that may be the worst match I've ever seen.
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Post by rose on Jun 29, 2010 3:15:49 GMT -5
I don't know if he's considered a legend, but I'd say Stone Cold Steve Austin. I mean, I always enjoyed his persona: he could cut amazing promos, and he was always entertaining. But, with the exception of maybe two matches (WM XIII and WM XIV), I found him to be really limited. Then again, I don't much care for brawlers.
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