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Post by Trent Valentine on Jun 7, 2010 9:01:26 GMT -5
It seems her face run...didn't go as planned. The Beautiful People seemed to almost always come out on every encounter they had, especially Velvet Sky. And now that Tara is gone, there isn't much for Angelina to feud with other than TBP. Hell, she won the Knockouts Title by pulling the damn thing out of a box. I can picture Velvet and Madison kicking out Lacey and sending Miss Love in to take her place..which is what everyone here expected.
More importantly, Angelina is a LOT better as a heel Knockout. I can't buy her as a goody goody face.
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Post by comahan on Jun 7, 2010 9:42:12 GMT -5
Well she was never a goody goody face, she was still sort of a bitch, just toward TBP this time.
That said, yea, Id really prefer if she did. Shes a fantastic heel.
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Post by bigbossman on Jun 7, 2010 9:56:05 GMT -5
Yeah. Face Angelina sucks.
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Post by Celgress on Jun 7, 2010 10:11:05 GMT -5
Yes, face Angelina sucks imo.
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Jun 7, 2010 10:13:46 GMT -5
Maybe she could be a face if she didn't use the same BP stuff as Comahan says. Nothing about her actions that screams face either.
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Post by bob on Jun 7, 2010 10:21:40 GMT -5
definately
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Post by vivix on Jun 7, 2010 14:10:00 GMT -5
Yeh let her out LVE as not deserving the spot and let her/velvet be tag champs.
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Post by peltier on Jun 7, 2010 14:16:12 GMT -5
I think being banned from the USA for those few months may have ruined her momentum.
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Post by sabu on Jun 7, 2010 14:44:29 GMT -5
Angelina is a better heel.
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Post by Raja Lion on Jun 7, 2010 15:24:22 GMT -5
If Mickie comes in to be the big name face, you almost have to put Angelina back as a heel, as the KO division is seriously depleted in the face rankings.
What Id do was book Mickie to come in and Angelina friends her up and then turns on her.
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Jun 7, 2010 17:03:51 GMT -5
I think being banned from the USA for those few months may have ruined her momentum. It certainly stalled it out....she just hasn't been the same since coming back then the injury and all.....it seems her ship may have already sailed. I think turning her heel with TBP would feel stale...the group as a whole feels stale. But, with the rumors of wanting to turn LVE face that would allow Angelina to maybe turn heel....going to TBP doesn't make sense to me after their feud. |
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Post by renzino on Jun 7, 2010 17:59:49 GMT -5
I think being banned from the USA for those few months may have ruined her momentum. It certainly stalled it out....she just hasn't been the same since coming back then the injury and all.....it seems her ship may have already sailed. I think turning her heel with TBP would feel stale...the group as a whole feels stale. But, with the rumors of wanting to turn LVE face that would allow Angelina to maybe turn heel....going to TBP doesn't make sense to me after their feud. I agree that Angelina works best as a heel but I don't think it would make any sense for her to rejoin TBP at this point. In fact I kind of wish they would just disband TBP as a whole. Because like you said they have gotten kind of stale. Especially if they do go through with LVE's face turn. Just have Velvet and Madison just go their seperate ways. They can both stay heel. Besides I really want to see Velvet on her own anyway I'm just tired of seeing her as part of a team or group. I think she will be fine on her own despite what people think. |
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Post by ICBM on Jun 7, 2010 18:39:19 GMT -5
yes. next thread please
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Post by veldfire on Jun 9, 2010 1:40:54 GMT -5
Her face run really didn't have an opportunity to get off the ground. She was booked very weakly, especially for someone so over. Her arm injury and Tara's departure gives booking another chance to get their act together.
Keep her as a face for now. A witty, sarcastic face. Start booking her to fight her own battles and have at least moderate success doing so. Plus, give her quality solo mic time.
Down the road, a heel turn and possible reunion with TBP or Velvet at least is still there to be done.
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Post by thatguybayne on Jun 9, 2010 4:08:49 GMT -5
Angelina Love's face turn is so much like Edge's face turn it's not funny. Turn her heel again but don't realign her with TBP because they're beyond stale. I remember back in the day TNA apologising for the whole X-Division/Jackass thing and maybe they need to do that again with the Knockouts division and then relaunch the division. They pride themselves on listening to the fans but they're obviously not listening where the Knockouts are concerned.
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Post by ldavis on Jun 9, 2010 8:03:07 GMT -5
I dunno with LVE supposedly turning face and Madison as Knockouts champ, maybe a Angelina and Velvet reunion would be ok. The New BP members separate from the original guard might open some possibilities.
I don't know if Angelina can work as a face or not, I think with the right angle she might have a shot. Hell Terry Funk turned Ric "Dirtiest Player in the Game" Flair face for a while. The problem was this feud with the BP was nowhere near the right angle.
It was just completely wrong on so many first levels. First off when Angelina was gone, nobody was sitting around saying "God I hope she comes back so she can feud with Velvet and Madison." Everybody was saying "God I hope she comes back so LVE can be kicked to the curb and we can get the real BP back."
They decided not to do that though, but to make it worse the feud is just stupid. Who are you supposed to get behind in it?
Angelina? First thing she does when she comes back is acts like she's still cool with the BP before attacking them all from behind. A face move this is not. Then she keeps challenging the various BP members, but why is she even mad at them? Cause they replaced her? They kinda had to since they didn't know when she'd be back or even if she'd be back. Not saying it was a great move, but it is defendable.
It's not like they got her fired, or tried to prevent her from coming back, or ran her down the whole time she was gone or any other of a 100 real motives you could have for a feud.
Hell they did an interview with Velvet Sky that completely highlighted the problem with this feud. They asked her about the feud with Angelina and her response with this:
"We don't have a problem with Angelina. She's the one who has a problem with us."
Now if Velvet was being disingenous heel there things would be going ok, but no she was accurately portraying how the whole feud had gone.
Nobody's going to get over as a face being booked that way.
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Post by renzino on Jun 9, 2010 14:13:52 GMT -5
I dunno with LVE supposedly turning face and Madison as Knockouts champ, maybe a Angelina and Velvet reunion would be ok. The New BP members separate from the original guard might open some possibilities. I don't know if Angelina can work as a face or not, I think with the right angle she might have a shot. Hell Terry Funk turned Ric "Dirtiest Player in the Game" Flair face for a while. The problem was this feud with the BP was nowhere near the right angle. It was just completely wrong on so many first levels. First off when Angelina was gone, nobody was sitting around saying "God I hope she comes back so she can feud with Velvet and Madison." Everybody was saying "God I hope she comes back so LVE can be kicked to the curb and we can get the real BP back." They decided not to do that though, but to make it worse the feud is just stupid. Who are you supposed to get behind in it? Angelina? First thing she does when she comes back is acts like she's still cool with the BP before attacking them all from behind. A face move this is not. Then she keeps challenging the various BP members, but why is she even mad at them? Cause they replaced her? They kinda had to since they didn't know when she'd be back or even if she'd be back. Not saying it was a great move, but it is defendable. It's not like they got her fired, or tried to prevent her from coming back, or ran her down the whole time she was gone or any other of a 100 real motives you could have for a feud. Hell they did an interview with Velvet Sky that completely highlighted the problem with this feud. They asked her about the feud with Angelina and her response with this: "We don't have a problem with Angelina. She's the one who has a problem with us." Now if Velvet was being disingenous heel there things would be going ok, but no she was accurately portraying how the whole feud had gone. Nobody's going to get over as a face being booked that way. You sumed up the whole Angelina / TBP feud very well. That's what I thought when Angelina attacked them after hugging before their match. It wasn't face like at all and she never gave a real reason for being mad with them other than they placed her. She didn't make it clear if she was mad about being replaced by LVE or Velvet replacing her as the leader of TBP? She never made it clear at all. If I had to side with anyone honestly I would side with Velvet. One of the main things I hated about the feud was how bad they made Velvet look. The whole thing about her running away screaming before being hit by Angelina and being to afraid to hit her with an object was just ridiculous. Angelina should be the last person that Velvet should be afraid of her. If anything Velvet should know Angelina's strengths and weaknesses in and out being that they were former best friends. Also it was just hard to believe that these two women like Taz pointed out during the Leather & Lace match who was like sisters hate each other that much now. The main thing that gets me is if TNA never wanted Angelina and Velvet to have a real match, why have them feud in the first place? With the way things are nothing was settled between them. I guess when Angelina returns she will feud with TBP again. Even though personally I don't want to see it at all since they dropped the ball so badly on it the first time. Also like I said before maybe in the next month maybe the TBP can finally disband. Because I want to see what Velvet can do on her own. |
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Post by perucho1990 on Jun 9, 2010 15:12:01 GMT -5
^ Because thats easy way to get heat from the crowd especially in the Impact Zone since they cheer for everyone., Look at Orton last year, Vince turned him into a cowardly heel, and he got good heat from the crowd during the feud with Hunter and Cena.
I agree TNA botched the feud, Angelina beat up Velvet everytime , and then BP comes to help Velvet, it was the same for like 3-4 weeks in a row, and the people stopped caring.
And the ice of the cake was the report of their match in a house show, it was reported that it sucked.
You want to see Velvet in singles competition? She will be the Rosa Mendez of KO division (jobber).
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Post by renzino on Jun 9, 2010 15:37:06 GMT -5
You know what I'm not even going to respond to that because once again your just tring to start something.
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Post by perucho1990 on Jun 9, 2010 15:41:03 GMT -5
Butthurt, again?
You already mentioned earlier that TNA doesnt want/isnt fan of Velvet wrestling singles matches, remember the last time she got "pushed" in singles competition?
Buried by Taylor, the way OJ got buried by Benoit.
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