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Post by Kris Kobain on Mar 25, 2010 0:53:44 GMT -5
Sting was sort of like both Hogan and Warrior rolled into one....he was blonde and hailed from Venice Beach like the Hulkster...and had the face paint and wildman mannerisms of the Warrior. Sting and Warrior were a tag team called The Blade Runners in the '80s. They wore face paint then too.
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Post by Rorschach on Mar 25, 2010 0:58:05 GMT -5
Sting was sort of like both Hogan and Warrior rolled into one....he was blonde and hailed from Venice Beach like the Hulkster...and had the face paint and wildman mannerisms of the Warrior. Sting and Warrior were a tag team called The Blade Runners in the '80s. They wore face paint then too. Yep...I was aware of that. I was just saying how for being in separate federations and everything.....Sting and Hogan/Warrior shared a lot of the same quirks. Not a "rip off" at all....more like just merely similar is all.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Mar 25, 2010 1:04:44 GMT -5
for a while Goldberg was given the nickname The Phenom in wcw.
Though to be fair I'm sure Vitor Belfort had that nickname before the undertaker had it .
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Post by Trent Valentine on Mar 25, 2010 8:16:56 GMT -5
Terry Funk, Arn Anderson, Paul Orndorf and Larry Z formed a group to feud with the nWo..they called themselves "The Old Age Outlaws." Which was stupid as hell..how are you going to take a group seriously when they refer to them as old..thats like a couple of old fogies coming from an Old Folks Home looking to kick your ass.
Not to mention that the name was a blatant ripoff of The New Age Outlaws who were popular at the time.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Mar 25, 2010 11:57:01 GMT -5
for a while Goldberg was given the nickname The Phenom in wcw. Though to be fair I'm sure Vitor Belfort had that nickname before the undertaker had it . Wasn't Superfly Jimmy Snuka also called The Phenom? I'm almost positive Gorilla Monsoon called him that before The Undertaker was around.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Mar 25, 2010 12:24:05 GMT -5
WWE bring in Hell in a Cell in 97. WCW in 00 bring in "cage heat" Same as Cell in a Cell. I think WWE copyed the Peoples Champion from DDP. WCW in 96 starts the Crusierweight Divison. 97 WWE starts the LightWeight Divison. Despite the ENTIRE concept of Hell in a Cell being a WarGames cage on steroids. Ok Hell in a Cell and War Games are not the concept. War Games went around TWO rings. Hell in a Cell was only one ring. People say it was War Games on Steroids but he was not. You look at Hell in a Cell and then look at Sold Out 00 when Kidman faced the Wall. Later it was used in a match between Steiner and Booker T. They where the same Cage. Neither one of those cages could fit another ring in it. The only reason people say it was that because it was made with same stuff and both had roofs. Hell in a Cell was not the same concept for being for one ring that went around the ring side area and Never was a match about two Teams that where the teams entered on at a time and it was about submisson and not pins. While War Games was a regular cage set up as in against the apron. Was always about Two Teams up until 98 where it became 3 teams. War Games on Steroids would taken the Two rings and then gone around the ring side area instead of ring arpon only.
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Mar 25, 2010 12:58:50 GMT -5
Terry Funk, Arn Anderson, Paul Orndorf and Larry Z formed a group to feud with the nWo..they called themselves "The Old Age Outlaws." Which was stupid as hell..how are you going to take a group seriously when they refer to them as old..thats like a couple of old fogies coming from an Old Folks Home looking to kick your ass. Not to mention that the name was a blatant ripoff of The New Age Outlaws who were popular at the time. Very close, but they were actually feuding with the Natural Born Thrillers.
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Post by quantum on Mar 25, 2010 13:17:17 GMT -5
I would say D.X was a rip off of NWO as was the WWF 'Attitude Era' a type of rip off the NWO invasion WCW take over.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Mar 25, 2010 14:59:37 GMT -5
Terry Funk, Arn Anderson, Paul Orndorf and Larry Z formed a group to feud with the nWo..they called themselves "The Old Age Outlaws." Which was stupid as hell..how are you going to take a group seriously when they refer to them as old..thats like a couple of old fogies coming from an Old Folks Home looking to kick your ass. amazingly enough during an episode of thunder mike tenay messed up big time by calling them The New Age Outlaws.
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Post by saintturgeon on Mar 25, 2010 15:25:27 GMT -5
Terry Funk, Arn Anderson, Paul Orndorf and Larry Z formed a group to feud with the nWo..they called themselves "The Old Age Outlaws." Which was stupid as hell..how are you going to take a group seriously when they refer to them as old..thats like a couple of old fogies coming from an Old Folks Home looking to kick your ass. Not to mention that the name was a blatant ripoff of The New Age Outlaws who were popular at the time. I remember watching Nitro, and hearing Tony Schiavone say "Old Age outlaws.... I like the sound of that" Would the WCW hardcore championship count?
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Post by wahoowah11 on Mar 25, 2010 15:32:39 GMT -5
Couldnt the hell in the cell be a rip off of the WCW Thunderdome cage that they used in the 90's?
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Post by DavidArquette on Mar 25, 2010 17:01:43 GMT -5
I'm gonna say that the WCW Hardcore title was a big rip off, as were most of the matches for the title. WWF's hardcore matches felt spontaneous whereas WCW's seemed planned from start to finish and gave them that 2nd rate rip off feel.
WWF definately copied the Cruiserweight division by creating the Lightheavyweight Championship. That started off really well and had potential but they made the title worthless during '99.
Also didn't WCW have a Women's title at some point?
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Post by quantum on Mar 25, 2010 17:22:41 GMT -5
I'm gonna say that the WCW Hardcore title was a big rip off, as were most of the matches for the title. WWF's hardcore matches felt spontaneous whereas WCW's seemed planned from start to finish and gave them that 2nd rate rip off feel. WWF definately copied the Cruiserweight division by creating the Lightheavyweight Championship. That started off really well and had potential but they made the title worthless during '99. Also didn't WCW have a Women's title at some point? Yes WCW did have a womens championship which was held at one point by Oklahoma To be fair though both WWF and WCW Hardcore/Attitude style was a rip off of (the original) ECW.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Mar 25, 2010 17:35:10 GMT -5
Couldnt the hell in the cell be a rip off of the WCW Thunderdome cage that they used in the 90's? Yes and no. I think it did spark the idea as that cage did go around the ringside area like Hell in a Cell. But it didn't have a fully closed roof. I guess you could say War Games and Thunderdome where the two sparks to create it. WWE just mixed the two together. But Cage Heat was a complete ripoff of HIAC because they look completely the same. Now the womans title as someone brought it up. Now thats an interesting story. Because they kinda stole that from each other back and forth. WWE had it then it was gone. mid 90's WWE brought it back. Then WCW stole it when they signed Madusa. Then WWE then no longer had one for two years. Then WWE brought theres back in 98. While in 97 WCW's went gone after Madusa lost the retirement match. Late 99 WCW looked like they where going to bring the belt back. With Mona as the top woman. There was a series of womans matches but no title ever came from it.
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Post by agent817 on Mar 25, 2010 18:03:06 GMT -5
I'm gonna say that the WCW Hardcore title was a big rip off, as were most of the matches for the title. WWF's hardcore matches felt spontaneous whereas WCW's seemed planned from start to finish and gave them that 2nd rate rip off feel. WWF definately copied the Cruiserweight division by creating the Lightheavyweight Championship. That started off really well and had potential but they made the title worthless during '99. Also didn't WCW have a Women's title at some point? Well, I will hand it to WCW that their hardcore championship belt was done to look like an original belt, unlike the WWF one, which was nothing more than the old WWF title (The one used until 1998) but broken up and hand the world "Hardcore" written on tape. Looking back, I wasn't too crazy about the hardcore matches in WCW. Sure, like someone else mentioned, the Attitude Era and the hardcore division was basically inspired by ECW, but WCW's hardcore matches felt like typical garbage matches. Whereas in the WWF, they may have used weapons and such, but it seemed a little stupid how in WCW, there were loads of weapons like tables and other junk in the ring as the match went on. Of course, Raven's Rules matches seemed a little different in my opinion. Also, WCW did have a women's DIVISION, but not a title. I remember the main ones of that roster were Mona and Madusa. They also had other ones who were basically unknown like Lil' Jeannie and Brandi Alexander.
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Mar 25, 2010 18:20:20 GMT -5
The design of the WCW Hardcore Championship was actually a ripoff of the ECW style, which was so blatant that it may instead be considered an "homage." And they did differentiate themselves from the WWF, as by 2000 they were doing the "24/7" comedy matches, whereas WCW was giving wrestlers longer reigns (by comparison) and actually built up the title as something worth having. Granted, that didn't last long.
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Post by agent817 on Mar 25, 2010 18:39:09 GMT -5
You know something, it had been so long since I had seen that belt that I totally forgot what it looked like. Good thing you put that up and it is rather obvious that it was a knock off of the old ECW titles and I don't just mean the world title but also the TV title and the tag belt, but then again, during that time, they did make their belts look a little more "extreme", especially the chainlink fence design on the tag titles. Anyway, it was a little different from when ECW had their TV title look so similar to the old WWF title belt, and the tag titles look like the old IC belt.
Of course, with the hardcore title, I remember the bookers made Norman Smiley into the most reluctant champion that he wanted to lose but couldn't.
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Post by Mesousa on Mar 25, 2010 20:02:06 GMT -5
Booker T's character became a Rock rip-off in 2000. DON'T HATE DA PLAYA, HATE DA GAME. Triple H: Huh?
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Post by chaimwitz on Mar 25, 2010 20:11:42 GMT -5
Booker T's character became a Rock rip-off in 2000. DON'T HATE DA PLAYA, HATE DA GAME. Triple H: Huh? and with that angle went the wwe's credibility
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Mar 25, 2010 21:33:50 GMT -5
Asya being a ripoff of Chyna. Why you'd wanna ripoff Chyna of all people, I'll never know. This suggests a bit of ignorance of how much impact Chyna had. She wasn't always a scary drug porn star.
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