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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jul 24, 2010 15:14:55 GMT -5
So the WWF was obviously in the shitter at the time. Still it did produce some good material with Bret Hart vs. Diesel and some nice stuff from Shawn Michaels and Razor Ramon.
WCW debuted Nitro, which was like a better produced version of Raw at the time. Still, the company had a lot of crap with the Dungeon of Doom and the nWo not yet realized.
I think ECW would be a strong candidate. Although 1997-2000 was probably the company's peak in popularity, 1995-1996 was probably its peak in terms of content. Aside from the obvious hardcore stuff, there was also a slew of technical wrestlers, high flyers and veterans that had either not been snatched up by the big two yet or were no longer valued by the companies.
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Post by h on Jul 24, 2010 15:49:16 GMT -5
The WWF. What is obvious to some is obviously wrong to others.
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Post by DavidArquette on Jul 24, 2010 16:20:59 GMT -5
I don't like the 'Golden years' of ECW, WCW was pretty much wrestlecrap during '95, but I thought it was a good year for WWF. A lot of top guys like Michaels, Nash, Bret, and Undertaker were on the roster, as well as a strong mid card with Owen, Bulldog, Kid, Hall and Sid. In Your House made it's debut that year, as did Triple H, Austin, Goldust and others.
It's one of my favourite years in WWF.
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Post by repomanfan on Jul 24, 2010 16:39:47 GMT -5
SMW.
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Post by Judas Heyman on Jul 24, 2010 23:46:20 GMT -5
WCW was great in 1995...with talent like Sting, Flair, Hogan, Luger, Savage, Pillman etc..they had a world class roster. I really liked the WCW product because it was something fresh and a true alternative when Nitro debuted on TNT.
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Post by captaineasychord on Jul 25, 2010 0:21:55 GMT -5
ECW at this time was straight-up groundbreaking, as far as I'm concerned (and ROH from around 05-07 is the only stuff to come around that can even approach it, but it's essentially derivative of or intended to specifically contrast Heyman's blueprint). From the continuity and intensity of the angles, to the outrage and defiance against the status quo it represented, to the blurring of the line between fan and performer, it became the equivalent of post-modernism in wrestling. These facets were only strengthened by the inspired, dynamic characters and the unwavering commitment given to going above and beyond expectations from the workers and crew. I was stunned to hear songs from Pavement, Elastica, or Folk Implosion on the spots for upcoming shows. I actually felt appreciated as a fan because of facets like that. It was satisfying to know that something out there was deliberately aligning itself with me and my peers' POV. Those things resonate a little more deeply than "these two guys had a match, and it was either good or it wasn't and then it was over."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2010 9:10:35 GMT -5
Eddie Guerrero vs. Dean Malenko.
The birth and emergence of Raven.
Cactus Jack, the feud with Terry Funk & Tommy Dreamer, and his "anti-hardcore" messages.
Public Enemy vs. The Gangstas.
I watched them all, but in 1995, ECW left a mark on me that will never go away.
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Post by romafan87 on Jul 25, 2010 20:12:10 GMT -5
I vote for the AWF.
What?
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Post by machomark on Jul 25, 2010 20:43:02 GMT -5
ECW for the two high profile Malenko-Guerrero matches alone.
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Post by ICBM on Jul 25, 2010 21:16:08 GMT -5
Not ECW. Sorry man it could depend on what the standard you judge promotions by but as far as I am concerned there were only two major promotions in 95 and ECW was not one of them. My vote goes to wcw
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Post by turkeysandwich on Jul 25, 2010 22:14:36 GMT -5
Not ECW. Sorry man it could depend on what the standard you judge promotions by but as far as I am concerned there were only two major promotions in 95 and ECW was not one of them. My vote goes to wcw I agree with this except the WCW part. I really believe quality-wise that ECW was the best, but that is in retrospect. How many people outside the New York-Philly area were able to see ECW in 1995? I started watching ECW on the MSG network in the middle 1996, and even then I never met any other wrestling fan that had seen one episode of ECW until they moved to TNN. While, yes, WWF was doing silly stuff like pushing Mabel, it was still better than having Hogan feuding with Brutus Beefcake and the Dungeon of Doom's Monster of the Week. At least WWF still had Bret, Owen, Razor, and Shawn, and debuted Triple H and Goldust. Of course these are all just my opinions, and I was always a WWF mark from the beginning til the end. |
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Post by joeskvorecky on Jul 25, 2010 22:24:08 GMT -5
I don't like the 'Golden years' of ECW, WCW was pretty much wrestlecrap during '95, but I thought it was a good year for WWF. A lot of top guys like Michaels, Nash, Bret, and Undertaker were on the roster, as well as a strong mid card with Owen, Bulldog, Kid, Hall and Sid. In Your House made it's debut that year, as did Triple H, Austin, Goldust and others. It's one of my favourite years in WWF. Austin debuted in 1996. |
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Post by romafan87 on Jul 25, 2010 22:38:43 GMT -5
I don't like the 'Golden years' of ECW, WCW was pretty much wrestlecrap during '95, but I thought it was a good year for WWF. A lot of top guys like Michaels, Nash, Bret, and Undertaker were on the roster, as well as a strong mid card with Owen, Bulldog, Kid, Hall and Sid. In Your House made it's debut that year, as did Triple H, Austin, Goldust and others. It's one of my favourite years in WWF. Austin debuted in 1996. He debuted in December 1995 tapings that were shown in 1996. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong here, but just giving clarifying information. |
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Post by wrestlinggod13 on Jul 25, 2010 23:08:19 GMT -5
All Japan Pro-Wrestling (AJPW) was definitely the best promotion in the world in 1995 in terms of in-ring action. New Japan was probably second-best.
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Post by Real Folk Bruce on Jul 25, 2010 23:34:10 GMT -5
All Japan Pro-Wrestling (AJPW) was definitely the best promotion in the world in 1995 in terms of in-ring action. New Japan was probably second-best. Completely agreed. All Japan and New Japan were delivering absolute dynamite performances. Although the Big Three all had great shows (yes even the WWF), 1995 belonged to the Japanese. |
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Jul 26, 2010 0:34:53 GMT -5
All Japan Pro-Wrestling (AJPW) was definitely the best promotion in the world in 1995 in terms of in-ring action. New Japan was probably second-best. That's what I was going to vote/say. |
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Post by johnnyk9 on Jul 26, 2010 6:54:28 GMT -5
ICPW all the old schoolers baby!
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Post by sabu on Jul 26, 2010 8:51:55 GMT -5
ECW
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Post by quantum on Jul 26, 2010 13:20:32 GMT -5
I don't like the 'Golden years' of ECW, WCW was pretty much wrestlecrap during '95, but I thought it was a good year for WWF. A lot of top guys like Michaels, Nash, Bret, and Undertaker were on the roster, as well as a strong mid card with Owen, Bulldog, Kid, Hall and Sid. In Your House made it's debut that year, as did Triple H, Austin, Goldust and others. It's one of my favourite years in WWF. This is what I think also. It was a fun over the top catroon type time in the WWF (and WCW) I personaly enjoyed The New Generation better than any other time. Sure 1995 (and every era of wrestlnig does) had it's crap but it also had lot of good and great moments also. The undercard for the Rumble was good 9I persoanly liked the Rumble it's self but I see why it is wrestlecrap). Summerslam also had a good undercard but was spolied by the awful main event. Survivor Series (IMO) was the best ever and In Your House 5 was a good event often over looked headlined by the best Bulldog VS Hitman match ever IMO 9better than thier Summserslam 92 match). All the other In Your Houses had at least a couple of good stand out matches on the card. |
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Post by h on Jul 26, 2010 14:00:01 GMT -5
How many people outside the New York-Philly area were able to see ECW in 1995? I started watching ECW on the MSG network in the middle 1996, and even then I never met any other wrestling fan that had seen one episode of ECW until they moved to TNN. I live outside of the United States, and I had friends send me tapes, so I was watching in 1995. If anything, the difficulty in watching actually added to ECW's appeal. I still preferred the WWF, but I could see that there was something really...dare I say revolutionary?...about Raven-Dreamer, Mysterio-Psicosis, Sandman-Whipwreck, Eliminators-Pit Bulls, Rotten-Rotten, Malenko/Benoit-Taz/Sabu, etc. |
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