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Post by Gummydavidson on May 1, 2010 8:57:37 GMT -5
Its funny to see how some people cant accept Jack Swagger got over
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Post by Big L on May 1, 2010 9:03:47 GMT -5
Yea def genuine and it looked like he wanted to laugh
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2010 9:11:34 GMT -5
Wow, Swagger gets X-Pac Heat? Does Miz "still" get X-Pac heat as well? Just because they're not using a bunch of big words and calling everybody a hypocrite doesn't mean that they aren't doing their job. Everyone except Jericho,Punk and Christian as a heel gets X-Pac Heat EVERYONE
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Post by delurked on May 1, 2010 9:18:07 GMT -5
If they were piping in noise for Swagger they should have done the same for the Edge/Christian segment, because I thought the crowd reaction there was pretty tepid, given the performers involved.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on May 1, 2010 9:59:04 GMT -5
swagger heat = conway pop.
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Post by Dub H on May 1, 2010 10:03:21 GMT -5
swagger heat = conway pop Since Swagger was obviously the wrestler with most heat that night
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on May 1, 2010 10:05:23 GMT -5
i say it was piped in anyway. they couldn't get anyone to really care about swagger if they had him reenact katie vick.
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Post by azz0r on May 1, 2010 10:09:11 GMT -5
I skipped the whole segment.
Serious swagger = boring
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Post by Dub H on May 1, 2010 10:24:44 GMT -5
i say it was piped in anyway. they couldn't get anyone to really care about swagger if they had him reenact katie vick. except we got report of THE DAY where it was tapped,saying it took about 20 minutes(obviosuly exagerated) to Swagger start talkin,and they still didnt stop
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Post by BigJerichool222 on May 1, 2010 10:27:12 GMT -5
Just in case people haven't heard it... I love how he goes....OH YOU WANT MORE?
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Post by seamonsters on May 1, 2010 10:31:42 GMT -5
The only people I can recall in recent history who have had X-Pac heat are pre-comedy Santino, Michelle McCool and X-Pac himself.
So people misunderstand what X-Pac heat is. It's not go away heat, it's a face wrestler getting heel heat, because either the fans don't want them as a face, or the fans don't want them at all - but the only people that can get X-Pac heat are faces.
Think about it, all heat is go away heat. You're booing a heel because you don't like them, and if you don't like them, and you are booing them, they are dong their job. If you're booing him because he doesn't deserve to be champion, then he's still doing his job, because that's how he is being booked. He's a JBL-type champion, and for those that weren't around the IWC in 2002-2003, JBL was hated with a capital H, because he just plain did not deserve to beat Eddie, or be champion. People were just desperate for anyone - even other heels - to beat him. It took most people about five years to realise that JBL was not only the best champ of the previous decade, but the best booked heel champion ever in the WWE.
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Post by hotshotalex on May 1, 2010 10:34:04 GMT -5
Every time a heel this place doesn't like gets a reaction it's either the wrong kind of heat or all pipped in.
I love it.
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Post by Dub H on May 1, 2010 10:42:05 GMT -5
The only people I can recall in recent history who have had X-Pac heat are pre-comedy Santino, Michelle McCool and X-Pac himself. So people misunderstand what X-Pac heat is. It's not go away heat, it's a face wrestler getting heel heat, because either the fans don't want them as a face, or the fans don't want them at all - but the only people that can get X-Pac heat are faces. Think about it, all heat is go away heat. You're booing a heel because you don't like them, and if you don't like them, and you are booing them, they are dong their job. If you're booing him because he doesn't deserve to be champion, then he's still doing his job, because that's how he is being booked. He's a JBL-type champion, and for those that weren't around the IWC in 2002-2003, JBL was hated with a capital H, because he just plain did not deserve to beat Eddie, or be champion. People were just desperate for anyone - even other heels - to beat him. It took most people about five years to realise that JBL was not only the best champ of the previous decade, but the best booked heel champion ever in the WWE. Most people think X-Pac Heat and Conway Pop meand Dead Heat X-Pac Heat= what he said Conway Pop= With the crowd just doesnt care for a face at all. Dead Heat=when Heel is unable to make the crowd care/hate about him. I think its goes that way
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Post by BigJerichool222 on May 1, 2010 10:55:54 GMT -5
If anyone got little to no reaction whatsoever last night, it was Edge.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 1, 2010 11:10:12 GMT -5
The only people I can recall in recent history who have had X-Pac heat are pre-comedy Santino, Michelle McCool and X-Pac himself. So people misunderstand what X-Pac heat is. It's not go away heat, it's a face wrestler getting heel heat, because either the fans don't want them as a face, or the fans don't want them at all - but the only people that can get X-Pac heat are faces. Think about it, all heat is go away heat. You're booing a heel because you don't like them, and if you don't like them, and you are booing them, they are dong their job. If you're booing him because he doesn't deserve to be champion, then he's still doing his job, because that's how he is being booked. He's a JBL-type champion, and for those that weren't around the IWC in 2002-2003, JBL was hated with a capital H, because he just plain did not deserve to beat Eddie, or be champion. People were just desperate for anyone - even other heels - to beat him. It took most people about five years to realise that JBL was not only the best champ of the previous decade, but the best booked heel champion ever in the WWE. Slight correction: JBL was perceived as being unworthy of being champion, which was a part of his heat. Given he maintained the heat for like a year, and ratings were actually quite good, perception isn't quite reality at times.
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Post by wrestlecrapcrap on May 1, 2010 11:19:07 GMT -5
Goodness grief. You have the crowd clearly shouting and chanting 'KNOCK HIM OUT!!' and some people still want to refer to that as the ridiculous, mythical X-Pac heat? Seriously?
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Post by The OP on May 1, 2010 11:21:52 GMT -5
I know. I think some people predicted he wouldn't get over I guess because of his lisp or something, and now just don't want to be wrong. In other words, I voted real heat.
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Post by Jason on May 1, 2010 11:21:59 GMT -5
I love when smarks don't want to admit their least fave guy gets heat, they say it's X-Pac heat. Like the word "boo" has a number of different definitions. No, Swagger's job is to go out there and get BOO'S. When he gets them, regardless of the reasoning - He's doing his job good. You say "I don't hate him cause he's a heel, I hate him cause he sucks!", well... that's the way wrestling works. You're supposed to think the heels suck. You're supposed to boo the heels. You're not supposed to want to see them talking non-stop about their accomplishments.
X-Pac heat is a FACE getting heat!!!. John Cena gets X-Pac heat sometimes.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on May 1, 2010 12:11:20 GMT -5
I was cracking up during the whole promo because he reminds me of a guy that I knew who had a job interview and brought in a folder with EVERY SINGLE AWARD he ever received, from Elementary school through High School, including a perfect attendance award from the 1st grade!
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Post by perkleton on May 1, 2010 12:12:34 GMT -5
i like how so many people are saying, that SO many people are saying it was x pac heat.
when the poll and majority of posts say otherwise lol.
and it seems to have stemmed from someone saying it could have been bad heat. and there is such thing, the kind of heat where a promo is just boring and long so someone changes the channel and isnt entertained. his promo(s) annoyed me for that reason though, so i can see it being good heat for the live audience.
theres alot of blurry lines, but back to on topic, it was real, with some of it added/enhanced IMO
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